This summer 19:04 - May 15 with 5570 views | pennblue | Ashton surely has to be getting cast iron guarantees from McKenna about his commitment to staying and if not 100% then we need to part ways asap? If we don't and McKenna leaves in 6 weeks we really are in a disastrous position, we are not an established premier league club and we have a lot of work to do this summer. |  |
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This summer on 19:50 - May 15 with 1508 views | FrimleyBlue |
This summer on 19:45 - May 15 by DarkBrandon | This is insane. So if you asked McKenna what his plans for the season are, and he said: “I love it here. Have no plans to leave. But if a really big club came in for me I’d have to at least think about it” You’d sack him?? |
You can ask the OP if you like he said it first lol And when you put it the way you have. No.. no you wouldn't. [Post edited 15 May 2024 19:52]
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This summer on 20:02 - May 15 with 1487 views | BarcaBlue | People are really losing the plot. Football just doesn't work like that. That's why there are contracts and severance fees. You can't ask for a cast iron guarantee from a manager just the same as you can't get one from the club in case of bad results and a sacking. It's completely absurd. |  | |  |
This summer on 20:17 - May 15 with 1460 views | Herbivore |
This summer on 20:02 - May 15 by BarcaBlue | People are really losing the plot. Football just doesn't work like that. That's why there are contracts and severance fees. You can't ask for a cast iron guarantee from a manager just the same as you can't get one from the club in case of bad results and a sacking. It's completely absurd. |
Thank you. I was starting to think I might be the crazy one. |  |
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Get a grip ffs (n/t) on 20:18 - May 15 with 1463 views | Dyland | |  |
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This summer on 20:48 - May 15 with 1424 views | smithy69 | From 1 fan to “another’ Shut the door on the way out and don’t come back. Absolute numpty |  | |  |
This summer on 00:26 - May 16 with 1376 views | BlueBadger | Christ alive |  |
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This summer on 04:17 - May 16 with 1336 views | pennblue |
This summer on 19:47 - May 15 by cressi | You can never make anywhere contract generally means more of a settlement fee. Best thing Ashton can do is have a couple lined up in case this was to happen. |
I would agree with that. We will see what happens, i do take the points above though. Maybe this is just going to be the normal, if we hire decent managers there will always be constant speculation. |  |
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This summer on 07:17 - May 16 with 1294 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
This summer on 19:41 - May 15 by Herbivore | You don't get rid of a brilliant manager because he's so brilliant a bigger club might try and poach him. I don't know why this even needs saying to be honest. |
I'm going to dump my GF because she might go off with another bloke. Better to get it over and done with now. |  |
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This summer on 07:19 - May 16 with 1293 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
This summer on 19:45 - May 15 by DarkBrandon | This is insane. So if you asked McKenna what his plans for the season are, and he said: “I love it here. Have no plans to leave. But if a really big club came in for me I’d have to at least think about it” You’d sack him?? |
Depends how smarmy he looked when he said it. |  |
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This summer on 07:34 - May 16 with 1278 views | NthQldITFC | They key isn't cast iron guarantees about staying or going, that's unrealistic for anyone, the key is absolute commitment to openness and mature realism at all times from both sides, which I'm sure we have. |  |
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This summer on 07:42 - May 16 with 1267 views | wkj | We are in the Premier League - get used to wild rumours. McKenna and Ashton know much more about this situation than we do. Parting ways with KM is a weird suggestion, but to do so because of 'paper talk' is nonsense. If KM does leave us for another team, you can rest assured he will do it with grace and transparency with Ashton. I don't see him as the type who will bolt on whim without discussing it with Ashton first. What we're seeing now is probably just agents at work trying to get their client on a solid deal and because we're in the PL it is making national news. |  |
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This summer on 07:42 - May 16 with 1266 views | Churchman |
This summer on 20:02 - May 15 by BarcaBlue | People are really losing the plot. Football just doesn't work like that. That's why there are contracts and severance fees. You can't ask for a cast iron guarantee from a manager just the same as you can't get one from the club in case of bad results and a sacking. It's completely absurd. |
I agree with this. In addition, it’s easy to forget how professional this club has become in three years. Once upon a time just about everything depended on the manager. Not now. It is structured. There is an integrity about all they do that is more than just hype. Ashton and McKenna’s relationship looks to be strong and should anything happen, it’ll be done in the right way, I’m sure. KM will move on at some point. He appears to be a measured, very professional man and it’ll be at a time and to a place of his choosing. He’s that good. I’ve no doubt Ashton and the Board have contingency planned. Done their homework. In the crazy world of football, I certainly would have done. When all is said and done, the club is bigger than anyone and it’s growing again after many years of stagnation. The stories around McKenna are just that for now and best taken for what they are. Journalists, possibly Agents, making a living. |  | |  |
This summer on 07:52 - May 16 with 1247 views | tractorboy1978 |
This summer on 19:44 - May 15 by FrimleyBlue | I'm caught between your two thoughts.. I agree in part with you... but also in part with the OP.. Let's just make it simple. Sign him up for another 4 years with a 40 mill compensation fee. |
Why would he sign that? |  | |  |
This summer on 07:57 - May 16 with 1237 views | peterleeblue | I am sure Ashton and Mckenna's sides will be splitting with laughter. What a load of absolute nonsense. Go and have a summer holiday for Christs sake |  | |  |
This summer on 07:57 - May 16 with 1236 views | GlasgowBlue | Christ. |  |
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This summer on 08:02 - May 16 with 1228 views | chicoazul |
This summer on 19:41 - May 15 by Herbivore | You don't get rid of a brilliant manager because he's so brilliant a bigger club might try and poach him. I don't know why this even needs saying to be honest. |
We shouldn’t sign any players who might be good as we could risk losing them to Inter Milan. In fact to be on the safe side we should avoid having any success whatsoever. |  |
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This summer on 08:04 - May 16 with 1223 views | blueasfook | I agree. Let's sack him unless he agrees a new 10 year deal. |  |
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This summer on 08:12 - May 16 with 1212 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
This summer on 19:41 - May 15 by Herbivore | You don't get rid of a brilliant manager because he's so brilliant a bigger club might try and poach him. I don't know why this even needs saying to be honest. |
This, ffs. Once more, louder for those at the back. Utterly baffling |  | |  |
This summer on 08:16 - May 16 with 1208 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
This summer on 19:37 - May 15 by FrimleyBlue | I disagree Herbs. Ashton spoke of the level of respect between the two of them.. I don't think it's wrong of ashton to ask the question and then decide what to do with the answer Just like KM has to look after himself.. Ashton has the club to think of.. Whilst saying bye would be seen as a mad move... so could possibly ending up with no manager halfway through a transfer window. Not forgetting we'd lose all the management team it would be one heck of a transition ahead of a massive season ahead. Appreciate a change could happen at anytime.. but at least if it happend during the season. You've got your playing squad already sorted. [Post edited 15 May 2024 19:40]
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"Whilst saying bye would be seen as a mad move... so could possibly ending up with no manager halfway through a transfer window." Come on now, even for you this is shiite. |  | |  |
This summer on 08:18 - May 16 with 1201 views | MattinLondon |
This summer on 08:02 - May 16 by chicoazul | We shouldn’t sign any players who might be good as we could risk losing them to Inter Milan. In fact to be on the safe side we should avoid having any success whatsoever. |
We tried that approach under Evans. |  | |  |
This summer on 08:35 - May 16 with 1175 views | itfcjoe | This post is a madness, it's football and people move all the time - if it happens it happens and we have to react, but we'd never appoint a manager again if we took this approach |  |
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This summer on 09:28 - May 16 with 1104 views | N2_Blue |
This summer on 19:29 - May 15 by pennblue | It is certainly not meant to be respectful, i am thinking of the club and after 20 odd years out of it, we need to get this season right Hopefully it is all speculation |
You'd bin off a manager, who is under contract, just because he may or may not be able to give assurances he woudn't leave in a few weeks if an offer from Man Utd or another big club came in. Thats just the invitable place we find ourselves in and always will with any manager that does an amazing job without. You are bsiscally saying bin one of our best managers ever because of 'what if'. AN offer may not come in and he manages here another two years. That is a riisk i think every fan would take other than you it seems. I certianly don't expect Mckenna to give us any guarantees. But i think the guy has integirity and you should probably respect and trust him a little bit more. |  |
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This summer on 09:50 - May 16 with 1082 views | FrimleyBlue |
This summer on 08:16 - May 16 by DropCliffsNotBombs | "Whilst saying bye would be seen as a mad move... so could possibly ending up with no manager halfway through a transfer window." Come on now, even for you this is shiite. |
Oh don't worry, i've looked back on this thread and I have no words for myself. |  |
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This summer on 10:02 - May 16 with 1054 views | lizzibee | McKenna signed a contract last season. Pretty sure if he had any ideas of leaving he wouldn't have signed that, and that was without knowledge of PL. Pretty confident he isn't going anywhere yet - he's loyal, has a journey to do and done nothing but speak positively about staying |  | |  |
This summer on 10:42 - May 16 with 1015 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
This summer on 09:50 - May 16 by FrimleyBlue | Oh don't worry, i've looked back on this thread and I have no words for myself. |
Ha, fair enough! |  | |  |
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