| Board divisiveness 09:47 - May 31 with 40960 views | PhilTWTD |
Getting more than a little fed up with the recent fractiousness on here. There seem to be two groups of posters some of whom's main interest in being on here is to have pops at the other. That then leads to someone reporting a post, PMing or emailing me about the other.
Not really sure what to do about it, does seem some posters have unhealthy obsession with others, which is causing the rest of us, especially me a problem. I could ban all those involved on both sides en masse, who I'm sure most other posters could name, but that seems a little draconian and no doubt none of them would feel they had any blame.
Any thoughts? A number of those regularly involved with up arrow this post and tell me I'm right to call this out, as happens every time I make a similar request for the bickering to stop.
This site is always going to be a broad church of people from different backgrounds, ages, genders and views, so not everyone is going to agree with everyone or see everything posted as in the same way and I think there needs to be a bit more tolerance.
But more than anything far less winding up and chipping away at other users, deliberate attempts at subverting other people's threads etc.
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| Board divisiveness on 14:41 - May 31 with 1948 views | blueasfook |
| Board divisiveness on 13:22 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
But that's exactly why it doesn't work on table mode.
If you're ignoring a person and someone replies to something they said, you'd not want to see anything further shirley, as you're missing what that person said and therefore you don't want to read anything relating. |
Because often it's just some irrelevant comment that has nothing to do with, or add to, the discussion in hand but means the rest of the discussion is lost.
Example:
Poster A : Read a really interesting article on quantum computing last week. I think it will have a huge impact as the technology develops.
Ignored Poster : I like cheese!
Poster B : Yes I have been reading about the research they're doing at MIT. Really clever stuff.
So the good conversation carrying on from the irrelevant comment is then lost. [Post edited 31 May 2024 16:35]
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| Board divisiveness (n/t) on 15:04 - May 31 with 1858 views | NthYorkshireBlue |
| Board divisiveness on 14:41 - May 31 by blueasfook |
Because often it's just some irrelevant comment that has nothing to do with, or add to, the discussion in hand but means the rest of the discussion is lost.
Example:
Poster A : Read a really interesting article on quantum computing last week. I think it will have a huge impact as the technology develops.
Ignored Poster : I like cheese!
Poster B : Yes I have been reading about the research they're doing at MIT. Really clever stuff.
So the good conversation carrying on from the irrelevant comment is then lost. [Post edited 31 May 2024 16:35]
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| Board divisiveness on 15:06 - May 31 with 1842 views | nodge_blue |
| Board divisiveness on 14:41 - May 31 by blueasfook |
Because often it's just some irrelevant comment that has nothing to do with, or add to, the discussion in hand but means the rest of the discussion is lost.
Example:
Poster A : Read a really interesting article on quantum computing last week. I think it will have a huge impact as the technology develops.
Ignored Poster : I like cheese!
Poster B : Yes I have been reading about the research they're doing at MIT. Really clever stuff.
So the good conversation carrying on from the irrelevant comment is then lost. [Post edited 31 May 2024 16:35]
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But how can aomething be in a state of 1 or 0 at the same time, and only through the process of observing it make it resolve? |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 15:10 - May 31 with 1825 views | Whos_blue |
| Board divisiveness on 15:06 - May 31 by nodge_blue |
But how can aomething be in a state of 1 or 0 at the same time, and only through the process of observing it make it resolve? |
What is it about Brie you like the best? |  |
| Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness. |
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| Board divisiveness (n/t) on 15:13 - May 31 with 1812 views | NthYorkshireBlue |
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| Board divisiveness on 15:18 - May 31 with 1771 views | blueasfook |
| Board divisiveness on 15:06 - May 31 by nodge_blue |
But how can aomething be in a state of 1 or 0 at the same time, and only through the process of observing it make it resolve? |
I do actually have a book to read I just bought. I'll start it at the weekend. | |
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| Board divisiveness on 15:21 - May 31 with 1738 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Board divisiveness (n/t) on 15:13 - May 31 by NthYorkshireBlue |
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You should post more often, you seem sensible |  | | |
| Board divisiveness on 15:22 - May 31 with 1734 views | Reus30 |
It's a shame that you have had to post this twice in the space of a week or so, just to tell adults to just act like decent human beings. Shouldn't have to happen and I apologise for myself and for others.
I love this place, it's like my "3rd space" as it is for many others. I have never been more active on the forum then I have now and I think I have been around for a good few years now (I think I posted something about my dissertation 15 years ago!) but it's great to have a buzzing forum with so many diverse opinions, even if they are wrong.
Without TWTD, life would be a worse for all of us - we have to consider that before we misbehave and act like fools.
I don't have any solutions but let's all treat each other with love and respect hey. |  | | |
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| Board divisiveness on 15:30 - May 31 with 1680 views | slaughteredskipper |
Maybe I’m missing something but if someone called me on a post I'd most likely ignore it. If it persisted id still ignore it recognising there are some strange old bods around.
I think the only stuff that should be acted upon is racist, homophobic, threatening etc.
It must be difficult enough monitoring the forum without having to manage grown adults who should be able to act appropriately. |  | | |
| Board divisiveness on 15:41 - May 31 with 1620 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Board divisiveness on 15:10 - May 31 by Whos_blue |
What is it about Brie you like the best? |
[frantically flicks through modern quantum theory books to find mention of the Brie particle by eminent nuclear physicists] |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 15:43 - May 31 with 1609 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Board divisiveness (n/t) on 15:34 - May 31 by NthYorkshireBlue |
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Ah, that makes sense, thanks. I like the idea of Blueas being invisible to everyone but not realising it. Gav - you should definitely do that, just for giggles.
AI's going to get us into all sorts of bother. |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 15:48 - May 31 with 1588 views | Mullet |
I think if you just ban Dubbers and Guffers things calm down innit
Can we have POTD and MOTD back? Think if twtd returned back to its roots and went full social Darwinism every summer that might cull a few before the season starts and serious posting is needed. |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 15:50 - May 31 with 1567 views | BlueForYou |
Just make it a football forum. That’s what most of us come here for. Most of the childishness is on threads totally unrelated to football. I’ve never understood why folk want to bicker about politics etc on a football forum in the first place. Get the big whip out Phil, you know you want to. |  | | |
| Board divisiveness on 15:52 - May 31 with 1554 views | GavTWTD |
| Board divisiveness on 14:41 - May 31 by blueasfook |
Because often it's just some irrelevant comment that has nothing to do with, or add to, the discussion in hand but means the rest of the discussion is lost.
Example:
Poster A : Read a really interesting article on quantum computing last week. I think it will have a huge impact as the technology develops.
Ignored Poster : I like cheese!
Poster B : Yes I have been reading about the research they're doing at MIT. Really clever stuff.
So the good conversation carrying on from the irrelevant comment is then lost. [Post edited 31 May 2024 16:35]
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I don't understand that example.
Poster A made a thread about quantum computing
I don't understand why ignored is posting that there about the tories
Poster B is responding to the original thread, not the tory post so that would still be shown. |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 15:53 - May 31 with 1542 views | wkj |
| Board divisiveness (n/t) on 15:13 - May 31 by NthYorkshireBlue |
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I'm not sure I would trust OpenAI for this place...
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The question of whether politics discussions should be allowed on football forums can be complex. On one hand, sports forums are typically intended for discussions related to the sport itself, including players, teams, matches, and so forth. Introducing political discussions can potentially distract from the main focus and lead to heated debates that may not be relevant to the forum's purpose.
However, it's also important to recognize that sports and politics often intersect, especially on issues like governance of sports organizations, athlete activism, and social justice movements within the sports community. Banning all political discussions outright could stifle important conversations and perspectives.
Moderation is key in managing discussions on any online platform, including football forums. Clear guidelines should be established to ensure that discussions remain respectful, relevant, and conducive to constructive dialogue. This may involve prohibiting certain types of political content, such as partisan attacks or inflammatory rhetoric, while allowing for discussions on broader issues that directly impact the sports world.
Outbreaks of nude wrestling matches in gravy is a colourful way of illustrating the potential for conversations to become chaotic or inappropriate. Maintaining decorum and civility is essential for fostering a positive and productive online community. Moderators play a crucial role in monitoring discussions and intervening when necessary to prevent them from veering off course.
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| Board divisiveness on 15:56 - May 31 with 1516 views | StokieBlue |
| Board divisiveness on 15:52 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
I don't understand that example.
Poster A made a thread about quantum computing
I don't understand why ignored is posting that there about the tories
Poster B is responding to the original thread, not the tory post so that would still be shown. |
The example is designed to have a poke at another user in a thread about not having a poke at other users.
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| Board divisiveness on 15:56 - May 31 with 1515 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Board divisiveness on 15:53 - May 31 by wkj |
I'm not sure I would trust OpenAI for this place...
_________________________________________
The question of whether politics discussions should be allowed on football forums can be complex. On one hand, sports forums are typically intended for discussions related to the sport itself, including players, teams, matches, and so forth. Introducing political discussions can potentially distract from the main focus and lead to heated debates that may not be relevant to the forum's purpose.
However, it's also important to recognize that sports and politics often intersect, especially on issues like governance of sports organizations, athlete activism, and social justice movements within the sports community. Banning all political discussions outright could stifle important conversations and perspectives.
Moderation is key in managing discussions on any online platform, including football forums. Clear guidelines should be established to ensure that discussions remain respectful, relevant, and conducive to constructive dialogue. This may involve prohibiting certain types of political content, such as partisan attacks or inflammatory rhetoric, while allowing for discussions on broader issues that directly impact the sports world.
Outbreaks of nude wrestling matches in gravy is a colourful way of illustrating the potential for conversations to become chaotic or inappropriate. Maintaining decorum and civility is essential for fostering a positive and productive online community. Moderators play a crucial role in monitoring discussions and intervening when necessary to prevent them from veering off course.
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You can't fool us, that first sentence of the last paragraph is totally you!! | |
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| Board divisiveness (n/t) on 16:00 - May 31 with 1488 views | NthYorkshireBlue |
| Board divisiveness on 15:53 - May 31 by wkj |
I'm not sure I would trust OpenAI for this place...
_________________________________________
The question of whether politics discussions should be allowed on football forums can be complex. On one hand, sports forums are typically intended for discussions related to the sport itself, including players, teams, matches, and so forth. Introducing political discussions can potentially distract from the main focus and lead to heated debates that may not be relevant to the forum's purpose.
However, it's also important to recognize that sports and politics often intersect, especially on issues like governance of sports organizations, athlete activism, and social justice movements within the sports community. Banning all political discussions outright could stifle important conversations and perspectives.
Moderation is key in managing discussions on any online platform, including football forums. Clear guidelines should be established to ensure that discussions remain respectful, relevant, and conducive to constructive dialogue. This may involve prohibiting certain types of political content, such as partisan attacks or inflammatory rhetoric, while allowing for discussions on broader issues that directly impact the sports world.
Outbreaks of nude wrestling matches in gravy is a colourful way of illustrating the potential for conversations to become chaotic or inappropriate. Maintaining decorum and civility is essential for fostering a positive and productive online community. Moderators play a crucial role in monitoring discussions and intervening when necessary to prevent them from veering off course.
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| Board divisiveness on 16:02 - May 31 with 1479 views | wkj |
| Board divisiveness (n/t) on 16:00 - May 31 by NthYorkshireBlue |
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I would argue that point about gravy making everything better, but given you're from Yorkshire... I know the debate would not land on you desk before it's out the window | |
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| Board divisiveness on 16:02 - May 31 with 1474 views | GavTWTD |
| Board divisiveness (n/t) on 15:34 - May 31 by NthYorkshireBlue |
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It wouldn't take long to work out that a shadow banned poster doesn't have any replies. View count would be lower than surrounding posts. Posts would also be invisible when not logged in. I have thought about this before but it's a lot of work for not much benefit. | |
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| Board divisiveness on 16:04 - May 31 with 1443 views | wkj |
| Board divisiveness on 16:02 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
It wouldn't take long to work out that a shadow banned poster doesn't have any replies. View count would be lower than surrounding posts. Posts would also be invisible when not logged in. I have thought about this before but it's a lot of work for not much benefit. |
How about punitive measures that restricts daily, hourly, etc'ly number of posts someone can make? Maybe have it activate on a downvote threshold - no chance of that ever being abused. | |
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| Board divisiveness on 16:05 - May 31 with 1440 views | Mullet |
| Board divisiveness on 16:02 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
It wouldn't take long to work out that a shadow banned poster doesn't have any replies. View count would be lower than surrounding posts. Posts would also be invisible when not logged in. I have thought about this before but it's a lot of work for not much benefit. |
What about an instant ban? Just get rid. You always flush a poo, not leave it bobbing around pretending it doesn’t smell. | |
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| Board divisiveness on 16:05 - May 31 with 1447 views | Herbivore |
| Board divisiveness on 15:52 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
I don't understand that example.
Poster A made a thread about quantum computing
I don't understand why ignored is posting that there about the tories
Poster B is responding to the original thread, not the tory post so that would still be shown. |
Blueas is having a snipe at another poster on a thread asking posters to stop sniping at each other is the long and the short of it. Some people can't help themselves it seems. |  |
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