| Board divisiveness 09:47 - May 31 with 40988 views | PhilTWTD |
Getting more than a little fed up with the recent fractiousness on here. There seem to be two groups of posters some of whom's main interest in being on here is to have pops at the other. That then leads to someone reporting a post, PMing or emailing me about the other.
Not really sure what to do about it, does seem some posters have unhealthy obsession with others, which is causing the rest of us, especially me a problem. I could ban all those involved on both sides en masse, who I'm sure most other posters could name, but that seems a little draconian and no doubt none of them would feel they had any blame.
Any thoughts? A number of those regularly involved with up arrow this post and tell me I'm right to call this out, as happens every time I make a similar request for the bickering to stop.
This site is always going to be a broad church of people from different backgrounds, ages, genders and views, so not everyone is going to agree with everyone or see everything posted as in the same way and I think there needs to be a bit more tolerance.
But more than anything far less winding up and chipping away at other users, deliberate attempts at subverting other people's threads etc.
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| Board divisiveness on 12:44 - May 31 with 3394 views | PhilTWTD |
| Board divisiveness on 11:48 - May 31 by SitfcB |
Our pleasure.
Get we get some statistics from Gav? Busiest day with how many hits? Overall month totals? |
I'm sure he can do that. | | | |
| Board divisiveness on 12:48 - May 31 with 3340 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Board divisiveness on 12:08 - May 31 by CrayonKing |
A couple of suggestions:
1. A clear code of conduct (anyone remember netiquette?) stickied at the top of the board. As you implied, some people aren't even aware that they're part of the problem. Make it clear what the rules and expectations are and dish out appropriate bans if they're not followed.
2. This one's a bit more controversial. Get rid of downvotes (possibly upvotes too). Some people take them way too seriously and get wound up by them. If you disagree with someone then articulate why, not just hammer the downvote button.
Anyway, that's my 2p worth. Thanks for all the hard work Phil, Gav, Mark. Been using this board for nearly 30 years now, on and off, and it's a core part of being a town fan. It would be a shame if it changed too much. |
Pray for DaveU |  | | |
| Board divisiveness on 12:51 - May 31 with 3332 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Board divisiveness on 11:48 - May 31 by SitfcB |
Our pleasure.
Get we get some statistics from Gav? Busiest day with how many hits? Overall month totals? |
Gav told me a few years ago - thinking about it I'm guessing almost 20 years - how many hits they got and I was absolutely gobsmacked way back then. |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 12:56 - May 31 with 3312 views | GavTWTD |
A few things from me regarding the software:
1) fix the ignore system. It probably works perfectly on thread mode but not on table. It needs to go back further in the thread to see if a branch is being ignored.
2) make it so an admin can force a member to ignore a thread completely.
3) more mods. We don't have that facility and don't know if we'd use it, but I think it needs to be written in.
4) archive of posts. It would remove them from the main index but could still be added to. I like that idea from above.
5) categories. While I love the filter system, it's alien to new users. I could create an option (which may be the default) which shows the categories in a more formal initial index page which is the normal on other forums.
6) megathreads. I want to create threads which kinda mimic categories in a way. Topics that have multiple threads such as individual matches, euros, mckenna contract, the masters, grand national, general election etc. Administering it is key so might not work. I don't want to create more work for us, but being able to link to a thread with match comments might be cool. Being able to block all political threads might be of use to some. The devil in the detail and not discussed with Phil.
7) I like the thumbs. Disabling down arrows would be a mistake I think. Imagine if someone makes an outrageous statement and 50 down arrows and 2 up. If you only recorded up arrows then it would only show that people agreed with it. Perhaps you need to earn the right to down vote, either with a posting history, or ration of some way like using your score.
8) fix the scoring system to include posts that have been historically removed. I have years of posts not included currently. Removed to trim the database .
9) Be able to view the forum for a specific date. I have dates on the system like managerial changes, match dates, player transfers, and would be interesting to see the forum for that date.
[Edit] 10) sin bins. An automated week ban which allows them to view the site logged in, but not able to post.
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| Board divisiveness on 12:57 - May 31 with 3284 views | bluelagos |
Reading your post reminds me of my brief time teaching and dealing with bickering kids at breaktime.
BL: Your behaviour is totally unacceptable and I won't tolerate it in the playground.
(To older kid) - You should know better and think about the example you are setting to the younger pupils.
(To younger kid) - And you, you are just behaving like a 5 year old.
Younger kid: But, but...but I am 5.
(To younger kid) - Exactly.
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Some well intentioned advice - set the lines, set the consequences, never deviate an inch from either. After some initial pain, your life will get a whole load easier. |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 13:03 - May 31 with 3213 views | blueasfook |
| Board divisiveness on 12:56 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
A few things from me regarding the software:
1) fix the ignore system. It probably works perfectly on thread mode but not on table. It needs to go back further in the thread to see if a branch is being ignored.
2) make it so an admin can force a member to ignore a thread completely.
3) more mods. We don't have that facility and don't know if we'd use it, but I think it needs to be written in.
4) archive of posts. It would remove them from the main index but could still be added to. I like that idea from above.
5) categories. While I love the filter system, it's alien to new users. I could create an option (which may be the default) which shows the categories in a more formal initial index page which is the normal on other forums.
6) megathreads. I want to create threads which kinda mimic categories in a way. Topics that have multiple threads such as individual matches, euros, mckenna contract, the masters, grand national, general election etc. Administering it is key so might not work. I don't want to create more work for us, but being able to link to a thread with match comments might be cool. Being able to block all political threads might be of use to some. The devil in the detail and not discussed with Phil.
7) I like the thumbs. Disabling down arrows would be a mistake I think. Imagine if someone makes an outrageous statement and 50 down arrows and 2 up. If you only recorded up arrows then it would only show that people agreed with it. Perhaps you need to earn the right to down vote, either with a posting history, or ration of some way like using your score.
8) fix the scoring system to include posts that have been historically removed. I have years of posts not included currently. Removed to trim the database .
9) Be able to view the forum for a specific date. I have dates on the system like managerial changes, match dates, player transfers, and would be interesting to see the forum for that date.
[Edit] 10) sin bins. An automated week ban which allows them to view the site logged in, but not able to post.
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One thing I would say about the ignore system as a thread mode user, is if you have got someone on ignore then everything below their comment is then lost also, which means you lose whole chunks of good discussion because the person you have on ignore commented on it |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 13:05 - May 31 with 3195 views | J2BLUE |
| Board divisiveness on 12:56 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
A few things from me regarding the software:
1) fix the ignore system. It probably works perfectly on thread mode but not on table. It needs to go back further in the thread to see if a branch is being ignored.
2) make it so an admin can force a member to ignore a thread completely.
3) more mods. We don't have that facility and don't know if we'd use it, but I think it needs to be written in.
4) archive of posts. It would remove them from the main index but could still be added to. I like that idea from above.
5) categories. While I love the filter system, it's alien to new users. I could create an option (which may be the default) which shows the categories in a more formal initial index page which is the normal on other forums.
6) megathreads. I want to create threads which kinda mimic categories in a way. Topics that have multiple threads such as individual matches, euros, mckenna contract, the masters, grand national, general election etc. Administering it is key so might not work. I don't want to create more work for us, but being able to link to a thread with match comments might be cool. Being able to block all political threads might be of use to some. The devil in the detail and not discussed with Phil.
7) I like the thumbs. Disabling down arrows would be a mistake I think. Imagine if someone makes an outrageous statement and 50 down arrows and 2 up. If you only recorded up arrows then it would only show that people agreed with it. Perhaps you need to earn the right to down vote, either with a posting history, or ration of some way like using your score.
8) fix the scoring system to include posts that have been historically removed. I have years of posts not included currently. Removed to trim the database .
9) Be able to view the forum for a specific date. I have dates on the system like managerial changes, match dates, player transfers, and would be interesting to see the forum for that date.
[Edit] 10) sin bins. An automated week ban which allows them to view the site logged in, but not able to post.
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If the ignore function was fixed I would happy add 10 posters to my div list right now. |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 13:05 - May 31 with 3185 views | SE1blue |
| Board divisiveness on 12:57 - May 31 by bluelagos |
Reading your post reminds me of my brief time teaching and dealing with bickering kids at breaktime.
BL: Your behaviour is totally unacceptable and I won't tolerate it in the playground.
(To older kid) - You should know better and think about the example you are setting to the younger pupils.
(To younger kid) - And you, you are just behaving like a 5 year old.
Younger kid: But, but...but I am 5.
(To younger kid) - Exactly.
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Some well intentioned advice - set the lines, set the consequences, never deviate an inch from either. After some initial pain, your life will get a whole load easier. |
Totally agree with last paragraph.
Think I read further up this thread that some banned posters were given an amnesty to celebrate promotion on here. Whilst that’s a kind gesture, I think it’s allowing this kind of behaviour to continue.
TWTD doesn’t need those kind of posters (the repeating offenders) and it just allows a good thing to get muddied again.
For me clear agreement policy and tougher discipline for those that can’t manage themselves being in here. |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 13:22 - May 31 with 3111 views | GavTWTD |
| Board divisiveness on 13:03 - May 31 by blueasfook |
One thing I would say about the ignore system as a thread mode user, is if you have got someone on ignore then everything below their comment is then lost also, which means you lose whole chunks of good discussion because the person you have on ignore commented on it |
But that's exactly why it doesn't work on table mode.
If you're ignoring a person and someone replies to something they said, you'd not want to see anything further shirley, as you're missing what that person said and therefore you don't want to read anything relating. | |
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| Board divisiveness on 13:24 - May 31 with 3088 views | backwaywhen |
Phil would it help to have a non football thread , that appeared in its own right rather than say politics /war /music appear sandwiched in with the football posts ….apologies if this is answered elsewhere already . |  | | |
| Board divisiveness on 13:24 - May 31 with 3087 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Board divisiveness on 11:31 - May 31 by bazza |
Grown men on the internet discussing having to bring in yellow cards and naughty steps. Sounds like it’s time to employ super nanny!! |
I think a lot of grown men would like super nannying! |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 13:29 - May 31 with 3053 views | Whos_blue |
| Board divisiveness on 12:48 - May 31 by _clive_baker_ |
Pray for DaveU |
If it is decided to remove downvotes, special dispensation must be made to allow DaveU to continue to use the function.
A DaveU downy is a badge of honour.
I remember the sense of pride and belonging I felt the day I received mine. |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 13:31 - May 31 with 3044 views | GavTWTD |
| Board divisiveness on 11:48 - May 31 by SitfcB |
Our pleasure.
Get we get some statistics from Gav? Busiest day with how many hits? Overall month totals? |
Yes this month has been very busy. We'll hit 7.3 million page viewed. Previous bests:
Jan 20224 - 7.3m
Aug 2018 - 7.9m
Jul/Aug 2021 - 7m each
Busiest days this year:
Feb 1 - 475k
Jan 19 - 354k
May 22 - 345k
May 30 - 336k | |
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| Board divisiveness on 13:40 - May 31 with 2966 views | Herbivore |
| Board divisiveness on 13:24 - May 31 by backwaywhen |
Phil would it help to have a non football thread , that appeared in its own right rather than say politics /war /music appear sandwiched in with the football posts ….apologies if this is answered elsewhere already . |
Erm, there's already the option to only view football threads or general threads. |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 13:45 - May 31 with 2923 views | GavTWTD |
| Board divisiveness on 13:40 - May 31 by Herbivore |
Erm, there's already the option to only view football threads or general threads. |
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/category:1-football | |
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| Board divisiveness on 13:56 - May 31 with 2867 views | eireblue |
| Board divisiveness on 13:31 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
Yes this month has been very busy. We'll hit 7.3 million page viewed. Previous bests:
Jan 20224 - 7.3m
Aug 2018 - 7.9m
Jul/Aug 2021 - 7m each
Busiest days this year:
Feb 1 - 475k
Jan 19 - 354k
May 22 - 345k
May 30 - 336k |
Future Jack Stead is busy 18,200 years from now, good to see we are still relevant in the cosmos. |  | | |
| Board divisiveness on 13:58 - May 31 with 2862 views | FromReuserWithLove |
I think you have your board regulars who seem to take up the back seat of the coach and round on any poster with an 'outside' view. This then spirals into a petty battle of egos. Maybe removing the up/down arrows will avoid any keyboard gang warfare? |  | | |
| Board divisiveness on 14:01 - May 31 with 2828 views | BiGDonnie |
| Board divisiveness on 12:15 - May 31 by ArnoldMoorhen |
But what if they hide all their mugs and cups before you get round to theirs?
Have you got a Plan B? |
Gate and front door handles. |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 14:05 - May 31 with 2799 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Board divisiveness on 13:31 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
Yes this month has been very busy. We'll hit 7.3 million page viewed. Previous bests:
Jan 20224 - 7.3m
Aug 2018 - 7.9m
Jul/Aug 2021 - 7m each
Busiest days this year:
Feb 1 - 475k
Jan 19 - 354k
May 22 - 345k
May 30 - 336k |
Incredible, I would charge a £5 joining fee. | |
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| Board divisiveness on 14:10 - May 31 with 2759 views | Herbivore |
| Board divisiveness on 14:05 - May 31 by Lord_Lucan |
Incredible, I would charge a £5 joining fee. |
Spot the Thatcherite. | |
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| Board divisiveness on 14:17 - May 31 with 2726 views | wkj |
| Board divisiveness on 12:56 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
A few things from me regarding the software:
1) fix the ignore system. It probably works perfectly on thread mode but not on table. It needs to go back further in the thread to see if a branch is being ignored.
2) make it so an admin can force a member to ignore a thread completely.
3) more mods. We don't have that facility and don't know if we'd use it, but I think it needs to be written in.
4) archive of posts. It would remove them from the main index but could still be added to. I like that idea from above.
5) categories. While I love the filter system, it's alien to new users. I could create an option (which may be the default) which shows the categories in a more formal initial index page which is the normal on other forums.
6) megathreads. I want to create threads which kinda mimic categories in a way. Topics that have multiple threads such as individual matches, euros, mckenna contract, the masters, grand national, general election etc. Administering it is key so might not work. I don't want to create more work for us, but being able to link to a thread with match comments might be cool. Being able to block all political threads might be of use to some. The devil in the detail and not discussed with Phil.
7) I like the thumbs. Disabling down arrows would be a mistake I think. Imagine if someone makes an outrageous statement and 50 down arrows and 2 up. If you only recorded up arrows then it would only show that people agreed with it. Perhaps you need to earn the right to down vote, either with a posting history, or ration of some way like using your score.
8) fix the scoring system to include posts that have been historically removed. I have years of posts not included currently. Removed to trim the database .
9) Be able to view the forum for a specific date. I have dates on the system like managerial changes, match dates, player transfers, and would be interesting to see the forum for that date.
[Edit] 10) sin bins. An automated week ban which allows them to view the site logged in, but not able to post.
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Give us all the ability to down arrow a post more than once... I know its possible, you've shown us before :'D |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 14:19 - May 31 with 2708 views | PhilTWTD |
| Board divisiveness on 13:31 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
Yes this month has been very busy. We'll hit 7.3 million page viewed. Previous bests:
Jan 20224 - 7.3m
Aug 2018 - 7.9m
Jul/Aug 2021 - 7m each
Busiest days this year:
Feb 1 - 475k
Jan 19 - 354k
May 22 - 345k
May 30 - 336k |
Forum traffic is the highest ever, isn't it? | | | |
| Board divisiveness on 14:30 - May 31 with 2624 views | nodge_blue |
| Board divisiveness on 13:31 - May 31 by GavTWTD |
Yes this month has been very busy. We'll hit 7.3 million page viewed. Previous bests:
Jan 20224 - 7.3m
Aug 2018 - 7.9m
Jul/Aug 2021 - 7m each
Busiest days this year:
Feb 1 - 475k
Jan 19 - 354k
May 22 - 345k
May 30 - 336k |
Does that include me refreshing 1 million times over the last week? |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 14:32 - May 31 with 2613 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Blimey what have I been missing!
If ever a post demanded a down vote, this has to be it....duly delivered!  |  |
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| Board divisiveness on 14:36 - May 31 with 2577 views | wkj |
| Board divisiveness on 14:30 - May 31 by nodge_blue |
Does that include me refreshing 1 million times over the last week? |
I was kind of thinking that, im not sure if there are ways to see hits per unique subnet. | |
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