| Reform UK 13:01 - Jun 18 with 15515 views | Radlett_blue |
There won't be much love for them or Farage on here, but all I am suggesting is that you read their manifesto, if you haven't already done so.
I won't be voting for them, but if you read the manifesto, you might realise why around 17% of the electorate want to do so as some of their points will make sense to them. |  |
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| Reform UK on 21:03 - Jun 18 with 3173 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reform UK on 20:01 - Jun 18 by woodbridge_blue |
Just playing Devil's Advocate here....what about voters who would rather not vote for either of the two main parties, particularly Tories who feel let down by the past 14 years of government, but cannot, for various reasons, bring themselves to vote for Labour....are we suggesting they vote for one of the other minority parties, anyone but Reform?
Just asking for a couple of friends. |
They can vote for whoever they like of course, but they should be under no illusion about what Farage and Reform represent (and it’s not ‘the common man’). |  |
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| Reform UK on 23:13 - Jun 18 with 3050 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
A bold manifesto.
Created by the racists, for the racists. |  |
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| Reform UK on 23:18 - Jun 18 with 3043 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Reform UK on 13:14 - Jun 18 by Radlett_blue |
100% agree. The issue is controlling immigration sensibly & fixing the broken "asylum" system & unfortunately Reform UK & other similar parties carry along a large number of racists as supporters by using the "all immigration/immigrants are bad" theme.
As you say, there are certainly some good ideas in there as well, but the media is more interested in the immigration rhetoric. |
When is the invasion of Poland scheduled |  | | |
| Reform UK on 23:34 - Jun 18 with 3019 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Reform UK on 18:55 - Jun 18 by Lord_Lucan |
I started to read it yesterday but got waylaid.
As it happens I was thinking about voting for reform before Farage took over, now I probably won't.
I don't give a monkeys what the haters say but I hope Reform does well and gives the mainstream a fecking great jolt.
I read a few posts yesterday on here and I gotta say, many on this forum are so out of touch with the common man.
"Immigration is not out of control, prove to me that it is"
I'll bloody prove it, the fact that hotels and ex military places are full to the brim bloody proves it.
Controlled immigration is absolutely fine and if anything we need a whole lot more of it, both for diversity, richness of culture and very importantly - workers.
Unchecked people in small boats conveniently losing their passports on the way is absolutely fecking insane and will come back to bite us on the arse.
Utter utter madness!!
Oh and by the way, I very much doubt any manifesto will add up financially.
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So you want right wing populism led by a serial liar and con man to thrive?
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| Reform UK on 06:01 - Jun 19 with 2927 views | Zapers |
| Reform UK on 18:55 - Jun 18 by Lord_Lucan |
I started to read it yesterday but got waylaid.
As it happens I was thinking about voting for reform before Farage took over, now I probably won't.
I don't give a monkeys what the haters say but I hope Reform does well and gives the mainstream a fecking great jolt.
I read a few posts yesterday on here and I gotta say, many on this forum are so out of touch with the common man.
"Immigration is not out of control, prove to me that it is"
I'll bloody prove it, the fact that hotels and ex military places are full to the brim bloody proves it.
Controlled immigration is absolutely fine and if anything we need a whole lot more of it, both for diversity, richness of culture and very importantly - workers.
Unchecked people in small boats conveniently losing their passports on the way is absolutely fecking insane and will come back to bite us on the arse.
Utter utter madness!!
Oh and by the way, I very much doubt any manifesto will add up financially.
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I think Reform will do well, maybe not for this election but definitely in the future, especially now Farage is in control.
I have friends in the UK that have turned from Conservative to Reform. If I lived in the UK I would also probably go that route. |  | | |
| Reform UK on 06:15 - Jun 19 with 2919 views | Zapers |
| Reform UK on 20:09 - Jun 18 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Isn't Farage married to a Rumanian (or German or French woman)? I suppose he would rather live with one than next door to them! |
Where does a Rumanian come from;) | | | |
| Reform UK on 07:20 - Jun 19 with 2874 views | StokieBlue |
| Reform UK on 06:01 - Jun 19 by Zapers |
I think Reform will do well, maybe not for this election but definitely in the future, especially now Farage is in control.
I have friends in the UK that have turned from Conservative to Reform. If I lived in the UK I would also probably go that route. |
As an immigrant in another country can't you see the clear contradiction in supporting Reform?
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| Reform UK on 07:31 - Jun 19 with 2863 views | MattinLondon |
| Reform UK on 06:01 - Jun 19 by Zapers |
I think Reform will do well, maybe not for this election but definitely in the future, especially now Farage is in control.
I have friends in the UK that have turned from Conservative to Reform. If I lived in the UK I would also probably go that route. |
I take it from your post that you’re a foreigner in an overseas country?
If correct, how would you feel if a politician started to attack immigrants as scum and rapists? Making it really uncomfortable for you? Any empathy at all? |  | | |
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| Reform UK on 07:55 - Jun 19 with 2824 views | Herbivore |
| Reform UK on 06:01 - Jun 19 by Zapers |
I think Reform will do well, maybe not for this election but definitely in the future, especially now Farage is in control.
I have friends in the UK that have turned from Conservative to Reform. If I lived in the UK I would also probably go that route. |
Get better friends. Be better yourself. |  |
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| Reform UK on 07:56 - Jun 19 with 2823 views | Herbivore |
| Reform UK on 07:20 - Jun 19 by StokieBlue |
As an immigrant in another country can't you see the clear contradiction in supporting Reform?
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The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one. | |
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| Reform UK on 08:43 - Jun 19 with 2757 views | ElephantintheRoom |
You are being a bit of a conservative politician there and ignoring the bulk of what their ‘contract with the people’ actually said.
It was quite a bold commitment, or fantasy, that included electoral reform and genuine initiatives that might help the NHS, tax reform, housing and many other things that give blinkered or disillusioned people wet dreams.
Personally I think they might be on the right track to obliterate the conservatives …here in France the slightly more fragrant version of Farage doesn’t even mention immigration or Muslim bashing …. It’s all about lower taxes, better and earlier pensions, better child care …. All of which are far better than in the UK already. Even the slogan France First sounds a bit familiar. They might even win. | |
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| Reform UK on 09:02 - Jun 19 with 2719 views | Zapers |
| Reform UK on 07:55 - Jun 19 by Herbivore |
Get better friends. Be better yourself. |
What and have friends like you, and be like you.
No thanks. | | | |
| Reform UK on 09:04 - Jun 19 with 2713 views | StokieBlue |
| Reform UK on 09:02 - Jun 19 by Zapers |
What and have friends like you, and be like you.
No thanks. |
Do you think you could answer my post?
You often talk of how you love being an immigrant yet you'd take away that from people wanting to be immigrants in the UK.
I am very interested to know what makes you better than them which means you get the advantages of immigration whilst denying those advantages to others.
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| Reform UK on 09:07 - Jun 19 with 2705 views | NedPlimpton |
| Reform UK on 18:55 - Jun 18 by Lord_Lucan |
I started to read it yesterday but got waylaid.
As it happens I was thinking about voting for reform before Farage took over, now I probably won't.
I don't give a monkeys what the haters say but I hope Reform does well and gives the mainstream a fecking great jolt.
I read a few posts yesterday on here and I gotta say, many on this forum are so out of touch with the common man.
"Immigration is not out of control, prove to me that it is"
I'll bloody prove it, the fact that hotels and ex military places are full to the brim bloody proves it.
Controlled immigration is absolutely fine and if anything we need a whole lot more of it, both for diversity, richness of culture and very importantly - workers.
Unchecked people in small boats conveniently losing their passports on the way is absolutely fecking insane and will come back to bite us on the arse.
Utter utter madness!!
Oh and by the way, I very much doubt any manifesto will add up financially.
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"I'll bloody prove it"
You haven't proved anything. You've done exactly what Reform expect the rest of their voters to have done which is zero research on the subject whatsoever |  | | |
| Reform UK on 09:16 - Jun 19 with 2688 views | Blueschev |
| Reform UK on 07:31 - Jun 19 by MattinLondon |
I take it from your post that you’re a foreigner in an overseas country?
If correct, how would you feel if a politician started to attack immigrants as scum and rapists? Making it really uncomfortable for you? Any empathy at all? |
Don't worry, I'm sure he's one of those highly skilled ones. They're alright as long as they're not too, err, you know. |  | | |
| Reform UK on 09:20 - Jun 19 with 2679 views | Buhrer |
Their local candidate here looks like a private school fascist whos just shed his latest snake skin, like something straight of the cover of a Tom Sharpe ripper. He'll be front of the queue for turnips and mackerel. |  | | |
| Reform UK on 09:23 - Jun 19 with 2666 views | Radlett_blue |
| Reform UK on 21:03 - Jun 18 by Swansea_Blue |
They can vote for whoever they like of course, but they should be under no illusion about what Farage and Reform represent (and it’s not ‘the common man’). |
well, according to the polls, it's about 17% of the population. Feels about right to me according to my experiences. The majority of British people are and have always been quite centrist (if a little too attached to anachronistic institutions like the monarchy IMO). | |
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| Reform UK on 09:36 - Jun 19 with 2642 views | Herbivore |
| Reform UK on 09:02 - Jun 19 by Zapers |
What and have friends like you, and be like you.
No thanks. |
Okay, perhaps self-improvement isn't your thing. That's fair enough. Have a lovely day. | |
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| Reform UK on 10:18 - Jun 19 with 2583 views | noggin |
| Reform UK on 06:01 - Jun 19 by Zapers |
I think Reform will do well, maybe not for this election but definitely in the future, especially now Farage is in control.
I have friends in the UK that have turned from Conservative to Reform. If I lived in the UK I would also probably go that route. |
Wow, the irony in your last sentence is something else. |  |
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| Reform UK on 10:33 - Jun 19 with 2541 views | Zapers |
| Reform UK on 10:18 - Jun 19 by noggin |
Wow, the irony in your last sentence is something else. |
No irony.
I live in Thailand as a guest of the Thai government, with visas for my family.
Prior to this I lived in Monaco as a guest of the monegasque government, with residency permit.
Prior to this I lived in Los Angeles as a guest of the US government, with a visa.
Prior to this I lived in Switzerland as a guest of the government, with a permit.
Even the most challenged on here might see a pattern emerging . | | | |
| Reform UK on 10:38 - Jun 19 with 2511 views | Herbivore |
| Reform UK on 10:33 - Jun 19 by Zapers |
No irony.
I live in Thailand as a guest of the Thai government, with visas for my family.
Prior to this I lived in Monaco as a guest of the monegasque government, with residency permit.
Prior to this I lived in Los Angeles as a guest of the US government, with a visa.
Prior to this I lived in Switzerland as a guest of the government, with a permit.
Even the most challenged on here might see a pattern emerging . |
So you're a repeat economic migrant who would vote for an anti-immigration party? I'd say that's pretty ironic, certainly more ironic than any of the examples of irony in the song 'Ironic' by Alanis Morissette. | |
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| Reform UK on 10:46 - Jun 19 with 2474 views | leitrimblue |
| Reform UK on 10:33 - Jun 19 by Zapers |
No irony.
I live in Thailand as a guest of the Thai government, with visas for my family.
Prior to this I lived in Monaco as a guest of the monegasque government, with residency permit.
Prior to this I lived in Los Angeles as a guest of the US government, with a visa.
Prior to this I lived in Switzerland as a guest of the government, with a permit.
Even the most challenged on here might see a pattern emerging . |
I see a pattern, your an economic immigrant who as been welcomed and treated well in every country you have been lucky enough to live in.
So you would appear to be a big fan of worldwide free movement for yourself but your anti immigration for others |  | | |
| Reform UK on 10:47 - Jun 19 with 2466 views | noggin |
| Reform UK on 10:33 - Jun 19 by Zapers |
No irony.
I live in Thailand as a guest of the Thai government, with visas for my family.
Prior to this I lived in Monaco as a guest of the monegasque government, with residency permit.
Prior to this I lived in Los Angeles as a guest of the US government, with a visa.
Prior to this I lived in Switzerland as a guest of the government, with a permit.
Even the most challenged on here might see a pattern emerging . |
How does someone from Afghanistan or Iraq, for example, go about getting a visa for the UK? | |
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| Reform UK on 10:51 - Jun 19 with 2432 views | StokieBlue |
| Reform UK on 10:33 - Jun 19 by Zapers |
No irony.
I live in Thailand as a guest of the Thai government, with visas for my family.
Prior to this I lived in Monaco as a guest of the monegasque government, with residency permit.
Prior to this I lived in Los Angeles as a guest of the US government, with a visa.
Prior to this I lived in Switzerland as a guest of the government, with a permit.
Even the most challenged on here might see a pattern emerging . |
Why do you keep ignoring my questions? Could you answer it please?
All this post has done is highlight how selfish your position is. You've been given all these opportunities to work in a country other than your birth and you want to prevent others from doing the same. Reforms position isn't just about illegal migration but legal migration as well.
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| Reform UK on 11:04 - Jun 19 with 3369 views | leitrimblue |
| Reform UK on 10:38 - Jun 19 by Herbivore |
So you're a repeat economic migrant who would vote for an anti-immigration party? I'd say that's pretty ironic, certainly more ironic than any of the examples of irony in the song 'Ironic' by Alanis Morissette. |
Isn't it ironic 
Though playing with fire there with the risk of a whiney Alanis Morissette all day earworm. | | | |
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