| Broja update from Albanian journalist 12:40 - Aug 28 with 12660 views | itfcjoe |
The examination of Armando Broja by the doctor who operated on him was closed yesterday.
The answer that came out from there remains a mystery, Ipswich is using it as an alibi to play under new conditions
Ipswich is using the fact that it is going towards the last hours of the market and Chelsea does not have much time..
Sounds like we are now in the position to leverage our interest in both Broja and Foster to get the best deal possible over the line.
A sellers market, may have become a buyers? |  |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:27 - Aug 28 with 2955 views | blue_curacao |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:21 - Aug 28 by Asa |
You don’t tend to panic buy something you’ve wanted for ages.
You may eventually buy that thing because it’s only available for a limited period but it’s hardly then in a panic.
If anything we are using the window closing to get a much better deal for the thing we wanted. |
Agreed. It wouldn't surprise me if the deal doesn't get done and we end up going back for him in Jan (when hopefully the alleged achilles issue should be resolved) |  | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:28 - Aug 28 with 2948 views | itfc48 |
Surely that's the doctor that did his ACL reconstruction? It's his achilles we're concerned about, not his knee. | | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:28 - Aug 28 with 2939 views | Churchman |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:26 - Aug 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Agree on the Fulham point and loan before that too.
Injury prone and not scoring enough to appear to justify £30m type price tag.
If McKenna wants him, we of course trust him but it appears an odd one with the list of issues appearing to grow.
Also, when you see Chiesa joining Liverpool for 'only' £13m it makes you wonder why we are even contemplating Broja at that price level [Post edited 28 Aug 2024 13:28]
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Agree totally EG. If KM pushes this, there must be a good reason. |  | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:33 - Aug 28 with 2854 views | pointofblue |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:26 - Aug 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Agree on the Fulham point and loan before that too.
Injury prone and not scoring enough to appear to justify £30m type price tag.
If McKenna wants him, we of course trust him but it appears an odd one with the list of issues appearing to grow.
Also, when you see Chiesa joining Liverpool for 'only' £13m it makes you wonder why we are even contemplating Broja at that price level [Post edited 28 Aug 2024 13:28]
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Based on Cbiesa's few, we've overpaid for practically everyone in this transfer window. | |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:34 - Aug 28 with 2855 views | warky_1970 |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:16 - Aug 28 by ElderGrizzly |
If he's out for 7 to 8 weeks, do we really want to take the risk especially as it uses up one of our loan spots and Hirst is going to be out for a similar amount of time.
Feels as though our thoughts are not firmly elsewhere? |
I totally agree. I don’t like the sound of this deal at all.
Really think we should immediately look elsewhere for a striker that is ready to go and without all the baggage. |  | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:39 - Aug 28 with 2823 views | itfcjoe |
Sounds as though we have this deal where we want it and now a case of a full renegotiation to get it done on better terms | |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:39 - Aug 28 with 2789 views | Ryorry |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:08 - Aug 28 by Guthrum |
Or not if there is no underlying injury - or we're looking elsewhere/renegotiating if there is. Who knows where the truth lies with these convoluted transfer sagas, lacking official comment? All these stories are fed to the press by someone with an agenda (or a desire for def info).
In any case, should Broja come to Town, he may prove to be exceptional in our system, under McKenna and by next May a bargain at £30m. |
"if there is no underlying injury "
I'd very much doubt that - MA, KM & our owners have their reputation going forward to think about, & I'm sure they wouldn't do anything to damage that by way of sharp practice or shady manoeuvres which could compromise future deals. |  |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:40 - Aug 28 with 2786 views | itfcjoe |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:33 - Aug 28 by pointofblue |
Based on Cbiesa's few, we've overpaid for practically everyone in this transfer window. |
And Mbappe was a free transfer too when we are paying more than that for worse players | |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:43 - Aug 28 with 2691 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:40 - Aug 28 by itfcjoe |
And Mbappe was a free transfer too when we are paying more than that for worse players |
Ha. Indeed.
I was just genuinely surprised they would let him go for such a low fee and he's only 26 and don't appear to need to sell. |  | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:46 - Aug 28 with 2646 views | itfcjoe |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:43 - Aug 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Ha. Indeed.
I was just genuinely surprised they would let him go for such a low fee and he's only 26 and don't appear to need to sell. |
Those deals are presumably all about the package - they likely can't afford to carry him on those wages with his availability record whereas a big 6 team can do | |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:52 - Aug 28 with 2553 views | pointofblue |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:40 - Aug 28 by itfcjoe |
And Mbappe was a free transfer too when we are paying more than that for worse players |
The issue is the British based add ons which seem to exist in the Premier League transfer market now. Play for a British team - that's an extra couple of million. Have Premier League experience, no matter how poor they've looked - that's a couple more.
Of course, we made it work in our favour with Cajuste. That deal is pretty amazing really, all things considered. | |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:58 - Aug 28 with 2482 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:39 - Aug 28 by itfcjoe |
Sounds as though we have this deal where we want it and now a case of a full renegotiation to get it done on better terms |
Wonder how good a deal we can get? We seem the only show in town and any deal is almost better than nothing at this stage for Chelsea. | | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:04 - Aug 28 with 2393 views | cressi |
I maybe wrong but I believe Broja comes in and a striker for around 10 million to help hold the fort until Broja and Hirst are fit. | | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:06 - Aug 28 with 2386 views | PhilTWTD |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:39 - Aug 28 by itfcjoe |
Sounds as though we have this deal where we want it and now a case of a full renegotiation to get it done on better terms |
That's essentially where it's been for a few days now. Town trying to renegotiate terms, Chelsea insisting there's no issue and therefore no need to. |  | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:07 - Aug 28 with 2351 views | Guthrum |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:39 - Aug 28 by Ryorry |
"if there is no underlying injury "
I'd very much doubt that - MA, KM & our owners have their reputation going forward to think about, & I'm sure they wouldn't do anything to damage that by way of sharp practice or shady manoeuvres which could compromise future deals. |
Indeed. I'm just putting forward the options based on rumours swirling around. |  |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:11 - Aug 28 with 2281 views | portmanking |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:06 - Aug 28 by PhilTWTD |
That's essentially where it's been for a few days now. Town trying to renegotiate terms, Chelsea insisting there's no issue and therefore no need to. |
From what I heard yesterday (prior to Lyle Foster) was that Chelsea were straight-batting us and not prepared to move an inch. My fear is they can afford to play this game, knowing that we need a #9. I don't think it's a buyer's market whatsoever 2 days before a window closes.
My contact who told me we'd met Broja in LDN in the first place said yesterday we were content with latest (secondary) medical reports and wanted it done, hence my surprise at Foster developments. | | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:13 - Aug 28 with 2228 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:26 - Aug 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Agree on the Fulham point and loan before that too.
Injury prone and not scoring enough to appear to justify £30m type price tag.
If McKenna wants him, we of course trust him but it appears an odd one with the list of issues appearing to grow.
Also, when you see Chiesa joining Liverpool for 'only' £13m it makes you wonder why we are even contemplating Broja at that price level [Post edited 28 Aug 2024 13:28]
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Yes and no. There will be a huge difference in wages I imagine. | |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:18 - Aug 28 with 2120 views | itfcjoe |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:06 - Aug 28 by PhilTWTD |
That's essentially where it's been for a few days now. Town trying to renegotiate terms, Chelsea insisting there's no issue and therefore no need to. |
Have Chelsea moved on that now then? | |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:19 - Aug 28 with 2094 views | Vic |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 13:03 - Aug 28 by SheffordBlue |
I do wonder if we've presented that to Chelsea as a worst case scenario to drive the price down or avoid paying some of his wages and that the reality might be much less e.g 4 weeks as a more realistic worst case.
The issue seems to have been minor enough that Chelsea weren't aware of it so it can't have been too bad. |
i'd say of course we have! We're going to paint as bad a picture as we can if we're negotiating.
Trouble is that non of us really now! What I think is clear is that KM wants Broja if at all possible - just remains to see how good he and Ashton are at poker! |  |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:21 - Aug 28 with 2062 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:11 - Aug 28 by portmanking |
From what I heard yesterday (prior to Lyle Foster) was that Chelsea were straight-batting us and not prepared to move an inch. My fear is they can afford to play this game, knowing that we need a #9. I don't think it's a buyer's market whatsoever 2 days before a window closes.
My contact who told me we'd met Broja in LDN in the first place said yesterday we were content with latest (secondary) medical reports and wanted it done, hence my surprise at Foster developments. |
Would seem cutting your nose off to spite your face somewhat if you are happy to let him sit around as a depreciating asset outside the squad of 25 and on £5m a year. | | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:22 - Aug 28 with 2048 views | portmanking |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:18 - Aug 28 by itfcjoe |
Have Chelsea moved on that now then? |
They hadn't as of yesterday afternoon.
Maybe the Foster stuff is to spook them into coming back to the table, but my concern is Chelsea would probably rather Broja remained in their U23s than look like they've been bent over the table by newly promoted Ipswich. | | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:25 - Aug 28 with 1974 views | portmanking |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:21 - Aug 28 by tractorboy1978 |
Would seem cutting your nose off to spite your face somewhat if you are happy to let him sit around as a depreciating asset outside the squad of 25 and on £5m a year. |
They may prefer to flog him on loan back to Holland or something if we're still tyre-kicking. If he gets another 10-15 goals in Holland between now and Jan they could sell then at potentially a higher price than we're committing to.
Broja's salary is considerably lower than £5m a year btw. | | | |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:28 - Aug 28 with 1949 views | itfcjoe |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:22 - Aug 28 by portmanking |
They hadn't as of yesterday afternoon.
Maybe the Foster stuff is to spook them into coming back to the table, but my concern is Chelsea would probably rather Broja remained in their U23s than look like they've been bent over the table by newly promoted Ipswich. |
They have so much amortisation to cover a year they can't really afford to be principled, basically have £250m a season they need to cover off so these deals are so important to get done or you end up buying Joao Felix just to give that team enough money to buy your 2nd best player and sometime skipper | |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:35 - Aug 28 with 1820 views | homer_123 |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:04 - Aug 28 by cressi |
I maybe wrong but I believe Broja comes in and a striker for around 10 million to help hold the fort until Broja and Hirst are fit. |
Broja has a twin?
Did the wrong one get the medical? |  |
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| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:47 - Aug 28 with 1645 views | pointofblue |
| Broja update from Albanian journalist on 14:35 - Aug 28 by homer_123 |
Broja has a twin?
Did the wrong one get the medical? |
Ha. I read it like that at first but it says Broja to come in AND a £10m striker to hold the fort whilst Broja and Hirst get fit. | |
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