| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? 15:19 - Aug 28 with 6265 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
Put your biased Ipswich head to one side on this.
For me, the bottom 5 is between us, Leicester, Southampton, Everton and Wolves. The reason for these 5 is I'm not sure if all 5 have enough quality about them at both ends of the pitch, excluding Everton defensively who are missing key players right now, but going forwards, I think they're in trouble with their options.
Is our squad better than at least 3 others? |  |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:23 - Aug 28 with 4929 views | flykickingbybgunn |
The squads may be on a par or we may be even slightly better.
But our manager is streets ahead. |  | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:25 - Aug 28 with 4884 views | tonybied |
I'd like to think so. We should only really need to win more points than one of those teams, if they are likely to be the worst 4 teams. Leicester and Everton are expected to receive point deductions so you'd think we'd finish above them. Wolves look like they could be in trouble, I'm going with them 3 to be relegated and us and Southampton to be comfortably safe. |  | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:28 - Aug 28 with 4810 views | WD19 |
Bournemouth and Brentford tend to keep quite tight squads, so they are never far from an injury crisis that could see them dragged into a fight.......and neither would flourish in a dogfight.
We need to demonstrate that we can score enough goals. There have been some reasons to be encouraged in the first 2 games, but it remains an open question. If we can, I think we have a 50:50 chance of staying up. Luton were not a million miles away from saving themselves last year....... |  | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:31 - Aug 28 with 4760 views | FrimleyBlue |
Imo there are three MAIN qualities required to stay up
Technical ability
Speed
Defence
We've got a good mixture of highly technical players now, some excellent pacey players and a solid backline
Used correctly, as it will be, it should be good enough to win the battles against the 'normal' prem sides. |  |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:33 - Aug 28 with 4729 views | NthQldITFC |
I think so. We are possibly (possibly) arguably still a bottom three squad in terms of raw material, but we get very consistent performances due to superb intelligent coaching, game management and superb togetherness. I reckon this boosts us up to 14th or 15th place this season, and better next. |  |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:34 - Aug 28 with 4726 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:25 - Aug 28 by tonybied |
I'd like to think so. We should only really need to win more points than one of those teams, if they are likely to be the worst 4 teams. Leicester and Everton are expected to receive point deductions so you'd think we'd finish above them. Wolves look like they could be in trouble, I'm going with them 3 to be relegated and us and Southampton to be comfortably safe. |
It'll be interesting to see what happens with those points deductions but are Everton really in trouble again this season?
Points deductions really can be the fine margins after 38 games. | |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:34 - Aug 28 with 4726 views | jayessess |
My non-biased Ipswich head says we'd be the most expensive newly-promoted to ever get relegated. So, either we're good enough to stay up or we've spent that money badly... |  |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:37 - Aug 28 with 4670 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:28 - Aug 28 by WD19 |
Bournemouth and Brentford tend to keep quite tight squads, so they are never far from an injury crisis that could see them dragged into a fight.......and neither would flourish in a dogfight.
We need to demonstrate that we can score enough goals. There have been some reasons to be encouraged in the first 2 games, but it remains an open question. If we can, I think we have a 50:50 chance of staying up. Luton were not a million miles away from saving themselves last year....... |
That's true - a Bournemouth without Solanke and a Brentford without Toney will be different. I think Bournemouth will be okay, caught their game against Newcastle on TV and they're a good team. New striker Evanilson looks good so they've replaced Solanke, but whether they've replaced his goals, we will see.
Brentford though, I always feel like Mbeumo is the main man there without the attention Toney got. An injury to Mbeumo and they're in trouble going forwards, but they've got a good manager who's kept them up twice(?) now. | |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:40 - Aug 28 with 4619 views | BseaBlue |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:34 - Aug 28 by jayessess |
My non-biased Ipswich head says we'd be the most expensive newly-promoted to ever get relegated. So, either we're good enough to stay up or we've spent that money badly... |
Didn't Forest spend more than this when they went up?
I think it harsh to compare what we have spent against the likes of Leicester, Southampton, Burnley and others when they have had the quality from jumping between the divisions before.
We have effectively had to improve on a group of players plying their traid in league one two seasons ago. |  | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:46 - Aug 28 with 4522 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:31 - Aug 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Imo there are three MAIN qualities required to stay up
Technical ability
Speed
Defence
We've got a good mixture of highly technical players now, some excellent pacey players and a solid backline
Used correctly, as it will be, it should be good enough to win the battles against the 'normal' prem sides. |
Hmm not sure. Is our backline that solid? It was above average in the Championship when you look at the goals conceded compared to other teams. I know we've signed 2 new CB's who I assume will be the main pairing and a new GK, but they're going to need to earn their money to become solid at this level.
We've got a lot of proven technical players that starred in the Championship, whether they can step up and be the difference in the Prem? Not sure. Tough when we will have less of the ball.
Speed is definitely one thing we've added to - Davis, O'Shea, Harry Clarke, Burns, Ogbene, Delap and Szmodics can all run. I'm pleased we've recruited more athleticism and speed into our squad generally. It's a massive factor and the graph used on MNF by Jamie Carragher outlined that fitness wise won't be an issue if we can maintain it. | |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:46 - Aug 28 with 4521 views | Garv |
It's not the squads you want to look at.
Look in the dugout. That'll tell you we've got enough. |  |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:49 - Aug 28 with 4455 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:46 - Aug 28 by Garv |
It's not the squads you want to look at.
Look in the dugout. That'll tell you we've got enough. |
Out of the five clubs I've named there, I know I want McKenna over any of them. But the quality on the pitch matters and it can't be underestimated just because we have McKenna. | |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:54 - Aug 28 with 4299 views | Freddies_Ears |
My biggest fear was that we lacked pace. We have addressed that, with now 2 of the top-10 fastest EPL players.
We now need KMac to gel essentially a new team. That will take a while - we will get better week by week.
Everton and Wolves are pants. Southampton are no better than when we doubled them last season. Leicester should be automatically relegated, or a massive deduction for flagrantly breaching the rules. ManC could well be relegated as well. This might be the easiest season to stay up.
But we need the attitude that we gave to fight, every single minute of every single game. |  | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:56 - Aug 28 with 4234 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:49 - Aug 28 by IPSWICHFANITFC |
Out of the five clubs I've named there, I know I want McKenna over any of them. But the quality on the pitch matters and it can't be underestimated just because we have McKenna. |
The way I look at it, we are only going to get better as a team from here on in once we integrate everyone. And the games can only get 'easier' than our last two.
It's pretty nuts that after two games we have 0 points and a -5 GD and we are only 3rd bottom after playing the two most difficult fixtures of anyone. There are some pretty duff teams (relatively speaking) in this league and we just need to concentrate on being better than 3 of them.
Everton and Leicester will likely get deductions. And having Russell Martin is like starting with a deduction. | | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:57 - Aug 28 with 4228 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Not sure why you are including Wolves other than the recency bias of them getting hammered at the weekend. They will be comfortably fine, as they were last year.
We are pretty much in a shoot out with Everton and Forest. Leicester and Southampton will easily finish bottom 2 so we need to do more than the other two, and i think we will. I think Brentford could get dragged in easily but looks like they might end up keeping Toney which will be more than enough to keep them safe. |  |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:59 - Aug 28 with 4186 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:56 - Aug 28 by tractorboy1978 |
The way I look at it, we are only going to get better as a team from here on in once we integrate everyone. And the games can only get 'easier' than our last two.
It's pretty nuts that after two games we have 0 points and a -5 GD and we are only 3rd bottom after playing the two most difficult fixtures of anyone. There are some pretty duff teams (relatively speaking) in this league and we just need to concentrate on being better than 3 of them.
Everton and Leicester will likely get deductions. And having Russell Martin is like starting with a deduction. |
When you look at Southampton's opening games and how they played out.. had a man advantage for 60mins on the first day and lost. Then, lost a crucial home game. Never a good look even with it being early days. | |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:01 - Aug 28 with 4133 views | blueasfook |
I'd like to have seen all these signings made in pre-season to have given them chance to bed in before the league kicked off. But even with all the new players bedded in we'd have probably still struggled against Liverpool and Man City's teams worth hundreds of millions. Excited to see what our XI for Fulham will look like. For me, our season starts Saturday. |  |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:04 - Aug 28 with 4059 views | Help |
At this moment in time I think we should be okay. But things change, managers go, players get injured and that means the other teams around us may get better, and others we have not considered may get worse.
We have the first goal, we now need the first point or 3. Then get a bit of momentum going. Getting points off teams around us to settle the nerves and ignore any losses to the considered big 6ish.
That never say die attitude is vitally important |  |
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| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:04 - Aug 28 with 4055 views | ibbleobble |
I never thought we’d be relegated regardless. It’s only lazy pundits saying we will be. | | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:04 - Aug 28 with 4045 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:57 - Aug 28 by JammyDodgerrr |
Not sure why you are including Wolves other than the recency bias of them getting hammered at the weekend. They will be comfortably fine, as they were last year.
We are pretty much in a shoot out with Everton and Forest. Leicester and Southampton will easily finish bottom 2 so we need to do more than the other two, and i think we will. I think Brentford could get dragged in easily but looks like they might end up keeping Toney which will be more than enough to keep them safe. |
Wolves are in danger. Lost 7 of their last 10 last season and have lost their two best players. They don't seem to have any money to sign anyone notable either. Have pulled out of several deals recently including O'Shea. | | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:07 - Aug 28 with 3950 views | portmanking |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:04 - Aug 28 by tractorboy1978 |
Wolves are in danger. Lost 7 of their last 10 last season and have lost their two best players. They don't seem to have any money to sign anyone notable either. Have pulled out of several deals recently including O'Shea. |
Yep, Wolves appear to have systematically weakened their squad over the last 2-3 years. Led to believe economic instability in China is causing their owners to tighten their belts somewhat.
Then there's Everton, who are just as brassic and are already at loggerheads with their own fans.
Wolves, Everton and Leicester are the teams to leapfrog IMO. | | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:15 - Aug 28 with 3817 views | OldFart71 |
I think it will be extremely difficult for us to retain Premiership status. It will vastly depend on how quickly all these additions gel with the players already at Town. Can we afford two or three weeks with either no points or only a few. I am not a believer in targeting certain teams to get points against. Obviously it's important we don't lose too many against our main demotion possibles. But we need a few surprises along the way. | | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:16 - Aug 28 with 3798 views | Blue_Heath |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:07 - Aug 28 by portmanking |
Yep, Wolves appear to have systematically weakened their squad over the last 2-3 years. Led to believe economic instability in China is causing their owners to tighten their belts somewhat.
Then there's Everton, who are just as brassic and are already at loggerheads with their own fans.
Wolves, Everton and Leicester are the teams to leapfrog IMO. |
Don't Wolves still have Hwang and Cunha plus their new striker? Plenty of goals there. | | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:39 - Aug 28 with 3538 views | Vaughan8 |
I think you're jumping the gun with Wolves and Everton. Just because they've been hopeless the first 2 games doesn't mean too much. There are about 10 teams who could go down really.
However Leicester (and Everton) might get points deductions which will help.
The .teams who stay up usually have a decent home record. If we can pick up 28-30 points (even 25) at home, that pretty much see us up I think as we'll pick up points away. | | | |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 16:40 - Aug 28 with 3526 views | Oldsmoker |
| Do we have enough to NOT be one of the bottom three? on 15:25 - Aug 28 by tonybied |
I'd like to think so. We should only really need to win more points than one of those teams, if they are likely to be the worst 4 teams. Leicester and Everton are expected to receive point deductions so you'd think we'd finish above them. Wolves look like they could be in trouble, I'm going with them 3 to be relegated and us and Southampton to be comfortably safe. |
Good call and sound thinking.
I love it when I can just say - what he said. |  |
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