| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… 20:16 - Sep 15 with 11320 views | SitfcB |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 09:58 - Sep 16 with 1988 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 09:35 - Sep 16 by nodge_blue |
The little eco system we have on here is nothing compared to what goes on in Twitter but it probably provides some sort of mirror, minus the Russian state interference. Which is analogous to a Norwich fan posing as one of us.
But in reality I don't really believe that ten people upping a post on here saying its a stunt is an issue, but it does make me reflect that's probably what's going on in X.
And then it makes me, like you, sad that what we used to take as a relatively balanced world where truth would just logically trump (no pun intended) over, well, Trump. It turns out that all people have to do now is say that's a lie and it's because people from Haiti (who I understand in Springfield are legal and not illegal migrants) eat dogs.
We debate sometimes if capitalism is failing the world, even though Russia and China are as much a capitalist, rich, elite controlled society as any in the West. But maybe it's starting to be democracy that's failing the world. People don't like the way the worlds going and the just want Autocrats to take over and tell them all the problems have gone away. |
I took Mutter's post as a reflection on how Trump's dishonesty means your first instinct is to question what he says, rather than calling out this incident as a stunt. I don't see a problem with that, as long as people don't deny reliable information when it becomes available.
Democracy failing the world? Could well be. Despite every greater technological and scientific advancement, money seems to be increasingly concentrated in the few and a lot of people lately are not seeing their own circumstance improve. Life expectancy falling, re-emergence of diseases previously almost eradicated, environmental protections collapsing, mass extinctions, etc. It doesn't feel as if the current model works particularly well for the people or the planet. |  |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 10:02 - Sep 16 with 1975 views | J2BLUE |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 23:37 - Sep 15 by Illinoisblue |
Open your eyes, GB. |
You must be trolling... |  |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 10:09 - Sep 16 with 1919 views | Zapers |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 07:46 - Sep 16 by Simonds92 |
Agreed.
I think the facts now do show that both shooters were republicans though. This latest one certainly shouldn't have been allowed to be anywhere near a weapon, but those are the stupid laws the republicans love. |
Republicans, are you sure? |  | | |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 10:14 - Sep 16 with 1891 views | nodge_blue |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 09:58 - Sep 16 by Swansea_Blue |
I took Mutter's post as a reflection on how Trump's dishonesty means your first instinct is to question what he says, rather than calling out this incident as a stunt. I don't see a problem with that, as long as people don't deny reliable information when it becomes available.
Democracy failing the world? Could well be. Despite every greater technological and scientific advancement, money seems to be increasingly concentrated in the few and a lot of people lately are not seeing their own circumstance improve. Life expectancy falling, re-emergence of diseases previously almost eradicated, environmental protections collapsing, mass extinctions, etc. It doesn't feel as if the current model works particularly well for the people or the planet. |
Thats fine, but theres a danger all sides start to call everything out as a stunt. Russia bombing civilians? Its a stunt. Show me the facts and not some fake propaganda from Zelensky.
Or if not a stunt exactly, let me throw enough shade on the suggestion so that you are distracted from the event thats happened and the actual event gets diluted immediately. |  |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 10:42 - Sep 16 with 1824 views | Oldsmoker |
FBI said he was 300 to 500 yards from Trump.
200 yards difference is the length of 2 football pitches.
I'm surprised they couldn't be more accurate.
An AK47 effective range is 300 yards (internet).
It's an assault weapon not a long-range sniper rifle.
The shooter would have to be a marksman to even hit him.
This shows it was an angry citizen who wasn't thinking straight and hadn't thought it through. I'm sure he had every intention of shooting Trump but his chances were very slim. |  |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 10:56 - Sep 16 with 1776 views | Zapers |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 10:42 - Sep 16 by Oldsmoker |
FBI said he was 300 to 500 yards from Trump.
200 yards difference is the length of 2 football pitches.
I'm surprised they couldn't be more accurate.
An AK47 effective range is 300 yards (internet).
It's an assault weapon not a long-range sniper rifle.
The shooter would have to be a marksman to even hit him.
This shows it was an angry citizen who wasn't thinking straight and hadn't thought it through. I'm sure he had every intention of shooting Trump but his chances were very slim. |
I'm not sure that the rifle used was an AK47.
The facts need to be addressed before people jump to conclusions. | | | |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 11:02 - Sep 16 with 1737 views | Oldsmoker |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 10:56 - Sep 16 by Zapers |
I'm not sure that the rifle used was an AK47.
The facts need to be addressed before people jump to conclusions. |
The FBI said they'd recovered an AK47 in their press conference. | |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 11:16 - Sep 16 with 1714 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 10:42 - Sep 16 by Oldsmoker |
FBI said he was 300 to 500 yards from Trump.
200 yards difference is the length of 2 football pitches.
I'm surprised they couldn't be more accurate.
An AK47 effective range is 300 yards (internet).
It's an assault weapon not a long-range sniper rifle.
The shooter would have to be a marksman to even hit him.
This shows it was an angry citizen who wasn't thinking straight and hadn't thought it through. I'm sure he had every intention of shooting Trump but his chances were very slim. |
Are you talking about the golf course one today / yesterday?
I heard the bloke was waiting for Trump to head to that hole and the guy was waiting there with a gun, but the Feds spotted it.
Haven't heard much else but if that is the case then whether the weapon was discharged or not, it was an assassination attempt.
As I say though , I have only heard snippets. ..
...So my rule of thumb in these situations is generally to take the opposite stance as Elder Grizzly as he is almost always completely wrong about whatever has happened. It's funny really, I noticed it about a year ago and it's quite remarkable. [Post edited 16 Sep 2024 12:47]
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 11:46 - Sep 16 with 1656 views | Zapers |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 11:02 - Sep 16 by Oldsmoker |
The FBI said they'd recovered an AK47 in their press conference. |
And that’s been disputed by an expert on rifles. | | | |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:00 - Sep 16 with 1606 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 10:42 - Sep 16 by Oldsmoker |
FBI said he was 300 to 500 yards from Trump.
200 yards difference is the length of 2 football pitches.
I'm surprised they couldn't be more accurate.
An AK47 effective range is 300 yards (internet).
It's an assault weapon not a long-range sniper rifle.
The shooter would have to be a marksman to even hit him.
This shows it was an angry citizen who wasn't thinking straight and hadn't thought it through. I'm sure he had every intention of shooting Trump but his chances were very slim. |
I don't really understand why people are getting caught up in semantics and interested in the distance of the attacker to Trump. The initial facts coming out appear to suggest that somebody was spotted with a AK-47 type rifle, concealed in a bush and poking it through the fence in Trump's direction, on his private golf course. Its not too much of a stretch to suggest that this bloke wasn't there trying to get a selfie.
It's almost as if people are incapable of seeing it for what it seemingly is because of who the target was. Its quite worrying. |  | | |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:07 - Sep 16 with 1565 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:00 - Sep 16 by _clive_baker_ |
I don't really understand why people are getting caught up in semantics and interested in the distance of the attacker to Trump. The initial facts coming out appear to suggest that somebody was spotted with a AK-47 type rifle, concealed in a bush and poking it through the fence in Trump's direction, on his private golf course. Its not too much of a stretch to suggest that this bloke wasn't there trying to get a selfie.
It's almost as if people are incapable of seeing it for what it seemingly is because of who the target was. Its quite worrying. |
Your last sentence sums it up. |  |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:12 - Sep 16 with 1540 views | giant_stow |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:07 - Sep 16 by GlasgowBlue |
Your last sentence sums it up. |
I think part of this is surprise at how close an attacker can get to one of most closely guarded people on the planet. Or maybe I'm just speaking for myself! In this second one, I would have assumed that the whole course would be locked down, but maybe that's just an impossibility in reality / I've watched too many films. |  |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:13 - Sep 16 with 1534 views | J2BLUE |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 11:16 - Sep 16 by Lord_Lucan |
Are you talking about the golf course one today / yesterday?
I heard the bloke was waiting for Trump to head to that hole and the guy was waiting there with a gun, but the Feds spotted it.
Haven't heard much else but if that is the case then whether the weapon was discharged or not, it was an assassination attempt.
As I say though , I have only heard snippets. ..
...So my rule of thumb in these situations is generally to take the opposite stance as Elder Grizzly as he is almost always completely wrong about whatever has happened. It's funny really, I noticed it about a year ago and it's quite remarkable. [Post edited 16 Sep 2024 12:47]
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EG has been consistently wrong about pretty much everything, football or politics, since the days of Ian Milne. | |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:15 - Sep 16 with 1521 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:13 - Sep 16 by J2BLUE |
EG has been consistently wrong about pretty much everything, football or politics, since the days of Ian Milne. |
Rude... :) |  | | |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:19 - Sep 16 with 1503 views | J2BLUE |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:15 - Sep 16 by ElderGrizzly |
Rude... :) |
Accurate ;) | |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:26 - Sep 16 with 1461 views | DinDjarin |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 23:37 - Sep 15 by Illinoisblue |
Open your eyes, GB. |
It was another assassination attempt.
A guy sat at the 5th hole with a scoped AK style rifle and a go pro camera.
SS who were riding 2 holes ahead of Trump spotted him, shot at him and he ran off and was later arrested. |  | | |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:28 - Sep 16 with 1449 views | noggin |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:26 - Sep 16 by DinDjarin |
It was another assassination attempt.
A guy sat at the 5th hole with a scoped AK style rifle and a go pro camera.
SS who were riding 2 holes ahead of Trump spotted him, shot at him and he ran off and was later arrested. |
Allegedly |  |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:32 - Sep 16 with 1418 views | Oldsmoker |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:00 - Sep 16 by _clive_baker_ |
I don't really understand why people are getting caught up in semantics and interested in the distance of the attacker to Trump. The initial facts coming out appear to suggest that somebody was spotted with a AK-47 type rifle, concealed in a bush and poking it through the fence in Trump's direction, on his private golf course. Its not too much of a stretch to suggest that this bloke wasn't there trying to get a selfie.
It's almost as if people are incapable of seeing it for what it seemingly is because of who the target was. Its quite worrying. |
... and I can't understand why people are quick to criticize without reading the whole post.
My last paragraph says he was there to shoot Trump, so I hardly think I'm incapable of seeing it for what it was. | |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:37 - Sep 16 with 1361 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:32 - Sep 16 by Oldsmoker |
... and I can't understand why people are quick to criticize without reading the whole post.
My last paragraph says he was there to shoot Trump, so I hardly think I'm incapable of seeing it for what it was. |
It was so much a direct reply to your post, just a general observation on the thread.
Although the bit I don't subscribe to was about how unlikely it was to have been successful. Its a golf course, there's every chance Trump could've later been at a hole where he's now in range. | | | |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:41 - Sep 16 with 1329 views | itfcjoe |
I hadn't seen that, my point was more that whatever it was he was shot at by an attempted assassin and injured. If the bullet scraped him, or it hit glass and that hit him, or it was shrapnel is neither here nor there - somebody tried to shoot and kill him so it shouldn't be talked down and wasn't attempting to do so |  |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:51 - Sep 16 with 1278 views | lowhouseblue |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:41 - Sep 16 by itfcjoe |
I hadn't seen that, my point was more that whatever it was he was shot at by an attempted assassin and injured. If the bullet scraped him, or it hit glass and that hit him, or it was shrapnel is neither here nor there - somebody tried to shoot and kill him so it shouldn't be talked down and wasn't attempting to do so |
i agree it's neither here nor there. it was strange the way people online quickly invented the shrapnel theory as if that meant that the attack therefore didn't count and they could write it off on a technicality. trump is a dreadful man and phenomena - but he inspires a response from some opponents which means they'll believe the most extreme and ridiculous things about him. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:52 - Sep 16 with 1271 views | DinDjarin |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 12:37 - Sep 16 by _clive_baker_ |
It was so much a direct reply to your post, just a general observation on the thread.
Although the bit I don't subscribe to was about how unlikely it was to have been successful. Its a golf course, there's every chance Trump could've later been at a hole where he's now in range. |
The SS were 2 holes ahead of Trump then they spotted him so presume Trump was at the 3rd and would have been well in range when at the 5th Teeing off. | | | |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 13:04 - Sep 16 with 1212 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Welcome to the post reality reality. |  |
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| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 14:06 - Sep 16 with 1060 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 13:04 - Sep 16 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Welcome to the post reality reality. |
Which makes what you wrote a Post reality reality Post.
And in replying to it, I am writing a Post post reality reality Post, or maybe even a subsequent to the after reality existence comment, reply.
AKA a:
Post, post reality reality Post, Post.
And now I am asking myself: "Why did I post a post, post reality reality Post, Post?" | | | |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 14:26 - Sep 16 with 997 views | NthQldITFC |
| Somebody has tried to kill Trump again… on 14:06 - Sep 16 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Which makes what you wrote a Post reality reality Post.
And in replying to it, I am writing a Post post reality reality Post, or maybe even a subsequent to the after reality existence comment, reply.
AKA a:
Post, post reality reality Post, Post.
And now I am asking myself: "Why did I post a post, post reality reality Post, Post?" |
What I want to know is why the 'post' post the first 'Post' in your 'Post, post reality reality Post, Post' doesn't have a capital 'P'. Or perhaps, more to the point, why the others do.
PS. I've just been sacked for posting rubbish here, so can you post me the answer, posthaste, to my new post at the Post Office?
PPS. PS above stands for postscript, whereas PPS here stands for post postscript [Post edited 16 Sep 2024 14:29]
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