| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League 06:44 - Oct 14 with 15207 views | Asa |
On Saturday we'll be one game out from November and it'll be our 4th home game of the season. 4th!!!
Say what you want for League One but with 46 games, the League Cup, the Pizza Cup and even the FA Cup about to start the games came thick and fast.
Not far off either in the Championship. All those Portman Road matches under the lights.
Of course I want us at the top level. The post is slightly in jest. But the fixture scheduling this season is something else! [Post edited 14 Oct 2024 6:46]
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 07:15 - Oct 14 with 8337 views | Vic |
I wonder if the international breaks have also not helped us get into a rhythm. It all feels a bit bitty. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 07:26 - Oct 14 with 8288 views | ITFC_Forever |
It’s because the season is elongated at the end - doesn’t finish until 25th May FFS.
The top clubs have Europe commitments, their players have international commitments and the Prem try to make allowances for them. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 07:39 - Oct 14 with 8244 views | TractorWood |
I thought the same recently but regarding Pep et al moaning about the number of games.
There really aren't that many and the top 8 or so have such ridiculously deep squads it just isn't a problem at all. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 08:25 - Oct 14 with 8027 views | JimmyJazz |
Saturday will see the Championship clubs play just their 5th home game, so it's not much different |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:22 - Oct 14 with 7800 views | Benters |
I agree of course the idea of the game is to progress through the leagues,but to be honest some of the best days I’ve had out following town has been when we were in the Championship.
You could always get a ticket as well,you could always pick up a ticket along the way,I often bought season tickets off people when they couldn’t make a game.
Now it’s all points this and points that,ask for a ticket for a game,you get shot at dawn,who’s she ? |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:34 - Oct 14 with 7705 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 07:39 - Oct 14 by TractorWood |
I thought the same recently but regarding Pep et al moaning about the number of games.
There really aren't that many and the top 8 or so have such ridiculously deep squads it just isn't a problem at all. |
The difference is though, they are playing a huge amount more games than us. They will go deep in the cup competitions, playing some stupid number of champions league games and then you've got the other random extras like the club world cup etc. Yes they have deep pockets but as a squad, i think it's something like they could play as much as 40 games extra than us.
We will probably play the lowest amount of games we have in quite some time. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:46 - Oct 14 with 7604 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:34 - Oct 14 by JammyDodgerrr |
The difference is though, they are playing a huge amount more games than us. They will go deep in the cup competitions, playing some stupid number of champions league games and then you've got the other random extras like the club world cup etc. Yes they have deep pockets but as a squad, i think it's something like they could play as much as 40 games extra than us.
We will probably play the lowest amount of games we have in quite some time. |
You have to question how many games each player will actually play though.
They put reserves out for most of the domestic cup games, so you can ignore those up to the semi finals.
We now have 5 subs, so half the team often dont play much more than 60 mins in a match.
John Wark played 60+ games back in the 80's, when there was 1 sub and horrific pitches.
Dont believe the hype. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:54 - Oct 14 with 7547 views | _clive_baker_ |
I was often reminded by friends of premier league clubs over the past couple of years that the journey is way more fun than the destination. Have to say I've never disagreed. You want to compete at the top level and I'm delighted we are, but nights like Barnsley and Coventry away are no less special because of the level you're at. I know a Man City fan who still talks about play off finals against Gillingham more than winning Premier League titles. Watching your club win massive games like that at Coventry was incredible, the noise, the connection between the players and fans, witnessing those highs with loved ones and defying the odds last season. Very special, once in a generation type stuff. That's not to say we can't have more moments like that now, but the premier league really has disappeared so far up its own ar5e with the silly money, the closed shop at the top, cheating on and off the pitch, VAR, kick off times etc. Genuinely don't think it'll be long until games are played overseas.
Its why I'm relaxed about this season. I'd love to see us win games and stay up, who wouldn't? But I wont cry about it if we don't tbh, I'll look forward to hopefully being strong in the Championship and playing about 100 games in December. |  | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:59 - Oct 14 with 7500 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:54 - Oct 14 by _clive_baker_ |
I was often reminded by friends of premier league clubs over the past couple of years that the journey is way more fun than the destination. Have to say I've never disagreed. You want to compete at the top level and I'm delighted we are, but nights like Barnsley and Coventry away are no less special because of the level you're at. I know a Man City fan who still talks about play off finals against Gillingham more than winning Premier League titles. Watching your club win massive games like that at Coventry was incredible, the noise, the connection between the players and fans, witnessing those highs with loved ones and defying the odds last season. Very special, once in a generation type stuff. That's not to say we can't have more moments like that now, but the premier league really has disappeared so far up its own ar5e with the silly money, the closed shop at the top, cheating on and off the pitch, VAR, kick off times etc. Genuinely don't think it'll be long until games are played overseas.
Its why I'm relaxed about this season. I'd love to see us win games and stay up, who wouldn't? But I wont cry about it if we don't tbh, I'll look forward to hopefully being strong in the Championship and playing about 100 games in December. |
I'm with you, I'm not worried about relegation.
I'm just pleased that promotion has given us the money to fix the stadium, and hopefully put us on a secure financial footing for a few years.
I genuinely think domestic football would be better if the so called elite clubs joined a Super League, but I would make that on the condition that they have to leave the Premier League.
I'm not bothered if that means less world class players and less money, I think it would result in a better league and better entertainment. [Post edited 14 Oct 2024 10:17]
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:00 - Oct 14 with 7464 views | Ryorry |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:46 - Oct 14 by Marshalls_Mullet |
You have to question how many games each player will actually play though.
They put reserves out for most of the domestic cup games, so you can ignore those up to the semi finals.
We now have 5 subs, so half the team often dont play much more than 60 mins in a match.
John Wark played 60+ games back in the 80's, when there was 1 sub and horrific pitches.
Dont believe the hype. |
Deleted, replied to wrong post, sorry. [Post edited 14 Oct 2024 10:10]
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:06 - Oct 14 with 7388 views | Blueschev |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 07:26 - Oct 14 by ITFC_Forever |
It’s because the season is elongated at the end - doesn’t finish until 25th May FFS.
The top clubs have Europe commitments, their players have international commitments and the Prem try to make allowances for them. |
The "Champions League" has ruined football. There are loads of games, 99% are dull as dish water. It gets all of the focus and priority and bu**ers up the fixture list meaning there are very few 3pm kick offs. It absolutely sucks. |  | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:07 - Oct 14 with 7378 views | Ryorry |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:34 - Oct 14 by JammyDodgerrr |
The difference is though, they are playing a huge amount more games than us. They will go deep in the cup competitions, playing some stupid number of champions league games and then you've got the other random extras like the club world cup etc. Yes they have deep pockets but as a squad, i think it's something like they could play as much as 40 games extra than us.
We will probably play the lowest amount of games we have in quite some time. |
And there’s a bonus for us in the potential extra length of time our players, esp key players, might have to recover from any injury - possibly more important to us than the top, more established Prem clubs. | |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:09 - Oct 14 with 7360 views | bluefunk |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:59 - Oct 14 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I'm with you, I'm not worried about relegation.
I'm just pleased that promotion has given us the money to fix the stadium, and hopefully put us on a secure financial footing for a few years.
I genuinely think domestic football would be better if the so called elite clubs joined a Super League, but I would make that on the condition that they have to leave the Premier League.
I'm not bothered if that means less world class players and less money, I think it would result in a better league and better entertainment. [Post edited 14 Oct 2024 10:17]
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:18 - Oct 14 with 7295 views | Dubtractor |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:54 - Oct 14 by _clive_baker_ |
I was often reminded by friends of premier league clubs over the past couple of years that the journey is way more fun than the destination. Have to say I've never disagreed. You want to compete at the top level and I'm delighted we are, but nights like Barnsley and Coventry away are no less special because of the level you're at. I know a Man City fan who still talks about play off finals against Gillingham more than winning Premier League titles. Watching your club win massive games like that at Coventry was incredible, the noise, the connection between the players and fans, witnessing those highs with loved ones and defying the odds last season. Very special, once in a generation type stuff. That's not to say we can't have more moments like that now, but the premier league really has disappeared so far up its own ar5e with the silly money, the closed shop at the top, cheating on and off the pitch, VAR, kick off times etc. Genuinely don't think it'll be long until games are played overseas.
Its why I'm relaxed about this season. I'd love to see us win games and stay up, who wouldn't? But I wont cry about it if we don't tbh, I'll look forward to hopefully being strong in the Championship and playing about 100 games in December. |
Yep. This.
I commented a few times at the end of last season that whilst the moment of getting promotion was incredible, and what football is all about, that I wasn't too excited about being in the Premier league. We're pretty much here to make up the numbers.
That's not to say I'd welcome relegation, or clap the team to failure, and I'll be delighted if we do stay up and gradually establish ourselves, but I won't get too upset if we do go back down. As long as we at least compete.
Though I would caveat that with the view that the investment we made over the summer was clearly with the intent of having a proper go at this league. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:38 - Oct 14 with 7124 views | Asa |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 08:25 - Oct 14 by JimmyJazz |
Saturday will see the Championship clubs play just their 5th home game, so it's not much different |
Fair enough. We were on 7 this time last year.
But they'd have also had games called off for the ridiculous international breaks that seem to happen as often as home games. | | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:49 - Oct 14 with 7046 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Well, we are going to stay up, so you will just have to learn to adjust! | | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:49 - Oct 14 with 7042 views | pointofblue |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:38 - Oct 14 by Asa |
Fair enough. We were on 7 this time last year.
But they'd have also had games called off for the ridiculous international breaks that seem to happen as often as home games. |
There are no more international breaks this year than there were last year. The pattern of the games are slightly different due to the later start of the season due to the Euros. Also, due to the Euros, there were more midweek games in the first part of the year for the Championship in 23/24 - three midweek matches between the September and October breaks compared to just one this season. | |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:51 - Oct 14 with 7028 views | Ryorry |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:38 - Oct 14 by Asa |
Fair enough. We were on 7 this time last year.
But they'd have also had games called off for the ridiculous international breaks that seem to happen as often as home games. |
I don’t recall as many int breaks previously as there are this season - has the ’Nations League’ been reformatted or something? (And what did it used to be called? Cos I don’t remember it at all, tho that might just be my short term memory issue). | |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:56 - Oct 14 with 6969 views | Europablue |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:34 - Oct 14 by JammyDodgerrr |
The difference is though, they are playing a huge amount more games than us. They will go deep in the cup competitions, playing some stupid number of champions league games and then you've got the other random extras like the club world cup etc. Yes they have deep pockets but as a squad, i think it's something like they could play as much as 40 games extra than us.
We will probably play the lowest amount of games we have in quite some time. |
Successful teams having to play more matches is a bit of a leveler. They have more money and the best players and deeper squads, but the rest of us might catch them on an off day.
The Champions League matches are way more boring than any other competition, so they should complain about them and even boycott them if they feel that strongly about them... | | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 11:00 - Oct 14 with 6949 views | VanDusen |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 07:39 - Oct 14 by TractorWood |
I thought the same recently but regarding Pep et al moaning about the number of games.
There really aren't that many and the top 8 or so have such ridiculously deep squads it just isn't a problem at all. |
It's all rubbish, and the result of fifty years of 2-3 clubs gradually stacking the deck to preserve their position at the top - get rid of maximum wage, make it 3 points for a win, stop sharing gate receipts, and then of course introducing the Premier League and working in cahoots with UEFA to stitch it up a vast additional income from European football that regular clubs effectively have no access to. And then still they wanted more - scrapping two legged ties in the league cup, stopping the FA Cup runner up getting a Euro spot and transferring it to the league, gradually getting rid of the cup replays that smaller clubs rely on year on year, and invading the EFL trophy designed to allow the bottom two leagues to win something to give even more incentive for them to buy and hoard any young player that might look decent.
The whole thing is a rig, it has killed the atmosphere (look at how bad London Stadium was last week compared to the noise you used to get at Upton Park!). And the really sad thing is it's entirely so they can create six international 'brands' to use to sell commodities off world-wide - that's all it's about. So you can't allow a pyramid that sees these clubs drop into obscurity as then how will they sell cr*p.
Unfortunately the only solution I can see is kick them out into their super league on the condition they are NEVER allowed back. They can play their Madrids and Barcelonas week-in week-out for all time, and then we might just get back to some sort of excitement in English football with proper clubs and proper competition. When they say 'fan power' stopped the super league it certainly doesn't appear to have been fan power from the vast majority of clubs - just the armchair fans. | | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 11:02 - Oct 14 with 6931 views | Kievthegreat |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:34 - Oct 14 by JammyDodgerrr |
The difference is though, they are playing a huge amount more games than us. They will go deep in the cup competitions, playing some stupid number of champions league games and then you've got the other random extras like the club world cup etc. Yes they have deep pockets but as a squad, i think it's something like they could play as much as 40 games extra than us.
We will probably play the lowest amount of games we have in quite some time. |
If we reach the final of the FA cup, we can play a maximum of 45 competitive games. The lowest of recent years was 19/20 which even when shortened for Covid was 46 games (36 league, 1 League cup, 4 FA cup and 5 pizza trophy).
In fact I think it's guaranteed to be the lowest number of games in at least 30 years unless we reach the final of the FA cup! |  | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 11:09 - Oct 14 with 6869 views | Ryorry |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 11:00 - Oct 14 by VanDusen |
It's all rubbish, and the result of fifty years of 2-3 clubs gradually stacking the deck to preserve their position at the top - get rid of maximum wage, make it 3 points for a win, stop sharing gate receipts, and then of course introducing the Premier League and working in cahoots with UEFA to stitch it up a vast additional income from European football that regular clubs effectively have no access to. And then still they wanted more - scrapping two legged ties in the league cup, stopping the FA Cup runner up getting a Euro spot and transferring it to the league, gradually getting rid of the cup replays that smaller clubs rely on year on year, and invading the EFL trophy designed to allow the bottom two leagues to win something to give even more incentive for them to buy and hoard any young player that might look decent.
The whole thing is a rig, it has killed the atmosphere (look at how bad London Stadium was last week compared to the noise you used to get at Upton Park!). And the really sad thing is it's entirely so they can create six international 'brands' to use to sell commodities off world-wide - that's all it's about. So you can't allow a pyramid that sees these clubs drop into obscurity as then how will they sell cr*p.
Unfortunately the only solution I can see is kick them out into their super league on the condition they are NEVER allowed back. They can play their Madrids and Barcelonas week-in week-out for all time, and then we might just get back to some sort of excitement in English football with proper clubs and proper competition. When they say 'fan power' stopped the super league it certainly doesn't appear to have been fan power from the vast majority of clubs - just the armchair fans. |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 11:13 - Oct 14 with 6839 views | Guthrum |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:34 - Oct 14 by JammyDodgerrr |
The difference is though, they are playing a huge amount more games than us. They will go deep in the cup competitions, playing some stupid number of champions league games and then you've got the other random extras like the club world cup etc. Yes they have deep pockets but as a squad, i think it's something like they could play as much as 40 games extra than us.
We will probably play the lowest amount of games we have in quite some time. |
Well they should withdraw from some of these competitions, then, such as the Club World Cup.
Or conserve their players' energy by not going on long-haul tours. You can bet your bottom dollar that if they succeeded in getting a "winter break", they'd immediately be jetting off to the USA or Far East. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 11:14 - Oct 14 with 6832 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 10:18 - Oct 14 by Dubtractor |
Yep. This.
I commented a few times at the end of last season that whilst the moment of getting promotion was incredible, and what football is all about, that I wasn't too excited about being in the Premier league. We're pretty much here to make up the numbers.
That's not to say I'd welcome relegation, or clap the team to failure, and I'll be delighted if we do stay up and gradually establish ourselves, but I won't get too upset if we do go back down. As long as we at least compete.
Though I would caveat that with the view that the investment we made over the summer was clearly with the intent of having a proper go at this league. |
"Though I would caveat that with the view that the investment we made over the summer was clearly with the intent of having a proper go at this league."
By 'having a go at this league', do you mean staying up?
Just asking as I think £100m just gives you a better chance of surviving, rather than competing any higher up. | |
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