| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League 06:44 - Oct 14 with 15208 views | Asa |
On Saturday we'll be one game out from November and it'll be our 4th home game of the season. 4th!!!
Say what you want for League One but with 46 games, the League Cup, the Pizza Cup and even the FA Cup about to start the games came thick and fast.
Not far off either in the Championship. All those Portman Road matches under the lights.
Of course I want us at the top level. The post is slightly in jest. But the fixture scheduling this season is something else! [Post edited 14 Oct 2024 6:46]
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| To say that there is.... on 15:39 - Oct 14 with 2977 views | _clive_baker_ |
| To say that there is.... on 15:31 - Oct 14 by withyblue |
In the last decade Aston Villa, Burnley, Brighton, Leicester, Wolves, Newcastle have all qualified for Europe not long after being promoted. Brentford, Sheff Utd, Bournemouth , Fulham have all finished top-half.
Of course, in our case it will be extremely difficult to replicate any of that for a season or two. We were playing in league one 18 months ago. |
We've certainly come a long way in a very, very short space of time. Its great that we're in the top division and long may it continue, my frustration isn't so much that I expect us to be better, I'm very realistic about that especially given the speed of our ascent. Its more that the premier league feels so monopolised towards the top. Even if its not us, which I don't expect it to be, I'd quite like some other club to disrupt it a bit more. Maybe Villa can. |  | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 15:43 - Oct 14 with 2964 views | blueasfook |
I actually think the championship is a better league. More exciting and more of a level playing field. Anyone can beat anyone in the championship. |  |
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| To say that there is.... on 16:11 - Oct 14 with 2894 views | withyblue |
| To say that there is.... on 15:39 - Oct 14 by _clive_baker_ |
We've certainly come a long way in a very, very short space of time. Its great that we're in the top division and long may it continue, my frustration isn't so much that I expect us to be better, I'm very realistic about that especially given the speed of our ascent. Its more that the premier league feels so monopolised towards the top. Even if its not us, which I don't expect it to be, I'd quite like some other club to disrupt it a bit more. Maybe Villa can. |
I agree. I hope the long promised football regulator can restore some balance to the Premier League and the entire pyramid. My gripe with many posts in this thread is that there is a grass is always greener kind of illusion to them and they take a rose tinted view of our spells in the lower divisions. Ultimately, most football teams finish mid-table most of the time. Seasons like our last couple are the exception, which is what makes them so great. | | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 16:45 - Oct 14 with 2820 views | MK1 |
I make no secret of my love for the Championship. I am not comfortable with Ipswich spending £100M on players and god knows how much on wages. I want us to establish ourselves at the highest level, but with that come stupid amounts of money and fewer games to enjoy. I want us to be mid to higher PL and with the backers we have, I expect they will not settle until we are, but I would be very comfortable with us in the Championship. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 16:46 - Oct 14 with 2815 views | FrimleyBlue |
I find myself having to watch waka waka from last season and other things just to keep the excitement going.
It's a tough old slog the prem and until we do start winning unfortunately you can't help but wait for us to concede and there's worry more than excitement when we play at the moment. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 17:21 - Oct 14 with 2780 views | GlasgowBlue |
I bet nobody posted anything similar in 2000/01. Had our results been better I doubt this thread would exist. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 17:27 - Oct 14 with 2773 views | greyhound |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 17:21 - Oct 14 by GlasgowBlue |
I bet nobody posted anything similar in 2000/01. Had our results been better I doubt this thread would exist. |
I think a lot of this thread gets to the point that in those 23 or so years the league has become near inaccessible to compete in. Even things like social media have an impact, in 2000 you didn't have the whole Internet telling you your terrible. We relied on the back pages of the evening star for our football media fix. Everything is just so different. I'm proud that we are here, but it feels soul less. | | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 17:39 - Oct 14 with 2745 views | MK1 |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 17:27 - Oct 14 by greyhound |
I think a lot of this thread gets to the point that in those 23 or so years the league has become near inaccessible to compete in. Even things like social media have an impact, in 2000 you didn't have the whole Internet telling you your terrible. We relied on the back pages of the evening star for our football media fix. Everything is just so different. I'm proud that we are here, but it feels soul less. |
That's my feeling. Unless you are one of the big 6 or 7, then everybody else is just eating the crumbs. I want Ipswich to be as successful as possible, but the PL just ain't a very charming place to be. Perhaps I will warm to it in time, but a the moment, just a have and have nots kind of league. | |
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| Maybe, but.... on 17:46 - Oct 14 with 2732 views | Bloots |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 17:21 - Oct 14 by GlasgowBlue |
I bet nobody posted anything similar in 2000/01. Had our results been better I doubt this thread would exist. |
....by this time that season we'd played 11 games, this season it's 8.
By the time we get through the next international break we'd still have only played 12 games this season, it was 17 that year.
From my perspective the lack of games is a major issue, it's not football as I know it.
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| Maybe, but.... on 17:50 - Oct 14 with 2721 views | MK1 |
| Maybe, but.... on 17:46 - Oct 14 by Bloots |
....by this time that season we'd played 11 games, this season it's 8.
By the time we get through the next international break we'd still have only played 12 games this season, it was 17 that year.
From my perspective the lack of games is a major issue, it's not football as I know it.
#lambertout |
He must be off our books by now. | |
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| To say that there is.... on 17:55 - Oct 14 with 2714 views | Dubtractor |
| To say that there is.... on 16:11 - Oct 14 by withyblue |
I agree. I hope the long promised football regulator can restore some balance to the Premier League and the entire pyramid. My gripe with many posts in this thread is that there is a grass is always greener kind of illusion to them and they take a rose tinted view of our spells in the lower divisions. Ultimately, most football teams finish mid-table most of the time. Seasons like our last couple are the exception, which is what makes them so great. |
Let's be clear. League one was sh1te, taking 4 years to get out of it was a disaster, and I hope we never g9 back there again. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 18:09 - Oct 14 with 2696 views | SitfcB |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 12:48 - Oct 14 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
You know what it is.
Because of the way the league is, and how tough it is for newly promoted teams. Losing doesn't really make me feel anything. Its obviously never nice to lose but it doesn't ruin my weekend. Which probably sounds like a good thing but I'm not sure it is. After, Preston away, Leeds away, Cardiff away last year. My weekend was ruined, I really cared. After the West Ham game last week, it was just like meh, oh well, they are just way better than us.
I mean the flip side is when we win, it will probably feel more rewarding. But I Don't feel that sort of jeopardy I did last season. Which makes me sad. Journey always better than destination and all that. |
I was thoroughly pissed off after losing to West Ham. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 19:03 - Oct 14 with 2641 views | VanDusen |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 17:21 - Oct 14 by GlasgowBlue |
I bet nobody posted anything similar in 2000/01. Had our results been better I doubt this thread would exist. |
I actually did say pretty much the same things 20 years ago both before we went up and when we got there as it was already clear the way the PL stitch up was going. Despite thoroughly enjoying that amazing season I remember still reminding myself all along it was a one-off - largely as we were patronised even up to the end. I remember reading a 'Race for the Champions League' supplement in the Times in April - APRIL - and we weren't even included, despite being in third. Chelsea were and they were 8-10 points behind us!??!
Even then that season was tainted with the frustration of just missing out on the Champions League at last gasp. Still - at least I got unforgettable trips to Moscow, Milan, Luxembourg and Czechia out of it | | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 19:42 - Oct 14 with 2591 views | bazza |
I agree with the sentiment, but let’s be honest, if we were sitting top Half of the prem right now, going toe to toe with teams like spurs etc like Brighton did the other night, we’d probably all feel Slightly different, it’s just the realisation kicking in, of how tough this league is, and that it’s going to be a long season.. also beating the wombles could have generated an extra game or Two, and now the FA cup maybe a little cup Run.. [Post edited 14 Oct 2024 22:25]
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 20:06 - Oct 14 with 2553 views | Ryorry |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 13:34 - Oct 14 by VanDusen |
The gulf is just greater - with less restrictions on foreign players and more money to attract them than any other league. Bizarrely, I think possibly we have a BETTER squad than 2000/1 in terms of talent, but the game is so much faster than it was. I think quite probably our team and many of the top end of the Championship would probably have a decent chance of winning the Premier League 25-30 years ago.
This is why the people who keep harking back to "Mr Robson only used 15 players in 1981" are living in cloud cuckoo land. I imagine in modern football that utterly brilliant team would probably struggle to keep up with the pace in the modern Championship or even below?! Remember the amount of fags etc. players used to smoke etc.! ;o) |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 03:50 - Oct 15 with 2398 views | Benters |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 18:09 - Oct 14 by SitfcB |
I was thoroughly pissed off after losing to West Ham. |
It wasn’t just the losing that peed me off,it was at times how poor we looked,the mistakes etc.
We looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 05:16 - Oct 15 with 2378 views | franz_tyson |
Would a couple of wins change our minds? Probably.
Can't say I'm in love with being here. Just as long as we give it a good shot.
If we're still in a relegation dogfight with 6 games to go with a genuine chance of staying up and still good team spirit I think they'll be lot to care about
I'll take a spirited relegation but with Norwich staying down and we're still in a decent financial place.But one win will change everything. [Post edited 15 Oct 2024 5:18]
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 08:46 - Oct 15 with 2310 views | Hipsterectomy |
This will also be only our second 3pm Saturday home game. With only 1 of the next 3 home fixtures also being one.
Start of December and having had 3 Saturday 3pm home games is pretty mad, but I guess the price of the prem. |  |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 09:14 - Oct 15 with 2289 views | SitfcB |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 08:46 - Oct 15 by Hipsterectomy |
This will also be only our second 3pm Saturday home game. With only 1 of the next 3 home fixtures also being one.
Start of December and having had 3 Saturday 3pm home games is pretty mad, but I guess the price of the prem. |
More 3pm home games than we would’ve had in the Championship this season! | |
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 16:55 - Oct 15 with 2171 views | TresBonne |
Bumping this thread again now.
NO BOXING DAY FOOTBALL
GET ME BACK TO L1 |  | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 21:18 - Oct 15 with 2061 views | ClareBlue |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 12:35 - Oct 14 by textbackup |
I’m glad some else said it.
Waited so long to get here, but I’m not really bothered now that we are 😂 |
Yes, agee. Can not get tickets from Ireland as went to plenty as home fan for our away days in championship and not enough points. so no flights across on Friday to a packed PR under the lights, 2am bus back to Stansted and home by 10 am Saturday buzzing from an exciting and entertaining football match. No early flights to Exeter to the 'real' st James park and Christmas markets with wife. No meeting son who has flown back from Albania in Sheffield to get a train to Barnsley mid week to be part of that crowd. And no climbing that hill at Forest Green again. That's a good thing.
We had two years of experiences and great football and excitement and some amazing moments of drama. Glad to be part of it, but the Premiership feels stale, scripted, and predictable along with it being inaccessible to me and family. It's just not as much fun. | | | |
| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 08:50 - Oct 16 with 1917 views | Leedsblue1 |
I think alot of this will also be effected by how old each fan is as you will know how few and far between these Premier League Campaigns are the older you are and then appreciate this more.
I've sat at Ewood Park watching Jordan Rhodes inevitably score twice against us whilst we did nothing for the whole match and sit there wondering how we've become that bad.
Going to Burton and watching us lose 2-1 and coming out thinking is this our level now.
Watched us getting absolutely s'housed by Harry Pell at the Wham and losing 2-1 wondering if we'll ever escape League one.
Also seen us beating Barnsley at Wembley then finishing 5th in the Premier League, beating Inter 1-0 at home. Being blessed to see Marcus scoring for fun, Dyer and Bent (Darren obviously) in a Town shirt, Hermann diving into the crowd and the genius of Reuser but realising how many years ago that was.
Since then it's been fleeting bits to enjoy like Murphy having that amazing season. Thinking Dean Bowditch was the second coming and Teddy Bishop looking like a world beater.
It now makes you realise how much an achievement this season is that we're even back at this level. I'm very much keeping a reality check on it and loving the season. The money it's brought in with stadium improvements alone. Going to Nice pre season and seeing level head on tap at Portman Road shouldn't be a wow moment...but it was and that shows where we were playing in a crumbling ground.
If we beat Everton and Leicester in the coming weeks, the forum will be a different place again. [Post edited 16 Oct 2024 9:10]
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| Starting to care less and less about the Premier League on 19:30 - Oct 16 with 1748 views | strikalite |
My boss is a Sheff U fan, he's back walking around with a spring in his step again, going to games and knowing you have a decent chance of winning beats not getting tickets and knowing your team is probably losing...
The dream is wanting to get there, once you're there you've lost the dream.. |  | | |
| To say that there is.... on 19:59 - Oct 16 with 1725 views | Swansea_Blue |
| To say that there is.... on 15:39 - Oct 14 by _clive_baker_ |
We've certainly come a long way in a very, very short space of time. Its great that we're in the top division and long may it continue, my frustration isn't so much that I expect us to be better, I'm very realistic about that especially given the speed of our ascent. Its more that the premier league feels so monopolised towards the top. Even if its not us, which I don't expect it to be, I'd quite like some other club to disrupt it a bit more. Maybe Villa can. |
The Championship is tiered in a similar way though. If anything the gap between those with parachute payments and the rest is larger (relatively) than the gaps in the PL.
I suspect a lot of the apathy towards the PL is because winning regularly is more fun. If we were storming games and picking up wins everyone would be much happier. Not that it isn’t a corrupt league of course. |  |
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| I've been thinking about the Brentford game quite a lot..... on 16:23 - Oct 17 with 1505 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| I've been thinking about the Brentford game quite a lot..... on 13:28 - Oct 14 by Bloots |
....but to clarify, I've mainly been thinking about what's the best pub to go to before and after the game.
It may seem defeatist, but I've pretty much resigned myself to us not winning so the match itself seems to be a bit of an irrelevance really.
The predictability of the Premier League means that unless you are playing one of the teams in your "mini league" whether that's top, middle or bottom then there's very little jeopardy involved.
Saturday will be more tense, but in general it's all just a bit "meh".
The Championship was much more fun. |
Spot on.
I can't get annoyed losing at West Ham when it's just so unlikely we're going to win more than 3 or 4 away games this season at best.
I'm enjoying the exposure, seeing decent players etc but feels so different (as I suspected it would) than what football has always been about - the premier league as a product sucks the passion out of it for me, which on balance, maybe I'm comfortable with the older I get. | | | |
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