| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer 15:33 - Nov 27 with 8204 views | factual_blue |
Wiped the floor with kimmy badenough at PMQs.
It's clearly time for her to go. |  |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 12:58 - Nov 28 with 1436 views | Meadowlark |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 11:49 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
I get that Labour, starmer has its fans, I get Tories have their own, I just find it difficult to think of any reason to give two shts about any of them when imo there's not much any party can do to actually save the uk from what the world has become.
Labour will do things that aren't popular, conservatives would do the same, same with reform same with all others. The fact that they all come into power and things don't actually end up positive isn't a slight on those in power, it's just realism that there isn't much any of them can do about things. |
So you just give up? Nothing will change?
This is the doctrine of many conspiracy theorists who don't vote because "its not worth it -they're all the same!"
Instead of listing what's wrong, how about coming up with some answers? Or is there no point? It's a defeatist attitude and it's a little bit sad. Surely someone somewhere has expressed an opinion that you could get on board with and support, rather than dismissing everything. |  | | |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:17 - Nov 28 with 1367 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 12:58 - Nov 28 by Meadowlark |
So you just give up? Nothing will change?
This is the doctrine of many conspiracy theorists who don't vote because "its not worth it -they're all the same!"
Instead of listing what's wrong, how about coming up with some answers? Or is there no point? It's a defeatist attitude and it's a little bit sad. Surely someone somewhere has expressed an opinion that you could get on board with and support, rather than dismissing everything. |
The Answers i'd have wouldn't be liked so it's pointless.
Brexit fked us, that's not being reversed
What is now classed as illness's/disabilities have made more people unable to work than ever before, that won't change unless you reverse the notion that anxiety, mental health etc isn't something to stop you working, to many people fall into that pot now who wouldnt previously and unfortunately it overshadows those who actually suffer form them immensely and not those who use it because they can't be bothered to leave the house.
I'd personally give those on benefits community roles whilst claiming until they get into work, could be road sweeping, park cleaning, helping out at soup kitchens, working with homeless people etc.
For the most severe sanctions in unemployment, work coaches should be able to attend job interviews to spot check candidates aren't purposely throwing away chances at jobs. etc
I personally would remove all self checkouts and ban them, resulting in the return and requirement of thousands of check out workers.. a position that was highly popular for people who did had disabilities but desire to work, or ageing pensioners that just wanted to keep working.
return of the high street banks, requirements for staff, remove the ability to open accounts online, or amend things online.
Reduce what supermarkets could sell whilst also bringing in caps to how many mini supermarkets were allowed in a town, would bring back the high streets where people need to go and buy something rather than a one stop shop
Public transport should be seen as a requirement, cap the volume of cars allowed per household, make public transport affordable and reliable and reduce the volume of vehicles on our roads, invest in monorails for larger cities.
etc etc
All pie in the sky ideas, they'll be ridiculed, I know that, but im on an MP so it really doesn't matter and 2.. They're all my personal thoughts, I don't believe many will share them. |  |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:35 - Nov 28 with 1341 views | leitrimblue |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 12:38 - Nov 28 by WeWereZombies |
When we played five a side in the playground we had to keep the numbers down to twenty five. Asphalt playground, didn't stop goalies from diving. And there were twelve inch iron spikes every metre. No milk at playtime, we had to drink a third of a pint of sulphuric acid. |
You had a 3rd of a pint of sulphuric acid each?
We just had a drop in the bottom of a bucket and 48 straws.
Asphalt! Feck me, asphalts to good for kids. we just had 2 old Roman roads strapped together with a bit a twine |  | | |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:47 - Nov 28 with 1306 views | StokieBlue |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:17 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
The Answers i'd have wouldn't be liked so it's pointless.
Brexit fked us, that's not being reversed
What is now classed as illness's/disabilities have made more people unable to work than ever before, that won't change unless you reverse the notion that anxiety, mental health etc isn't something to stop you working, to many people fall into that pot now who wouldnt previously and unfortunately it overshadows those who actually suffer form them immensely and not those who use it because they can't be bothered to leave the house.
I'd personally give those on benefits community roles whilst claiming until they get into work, could be road sweeping, park cleaning, helping out at soup kitchens, working with homeless people etc.
For the most severe sanctions in unemployment, work coaches should be able to attend job interviews to spot check candidates aren't purposely throwing away chances at jobs. etc
I personally would remove all self checkouts and ban them, resulting in the return and requirement of thousands of check out workers.. a position that was highly popular for people who did had disabilities but desire to work, or ageing pensioners that just wanted to keep working.
return of the high street banks, requirements for staff, remove the ability to open accounts online, or amend things online.
Reduce what supermarkets could sell whilst also bringing in caps to how many mini supermarkets were allowed in a town, would bring back the high streets where people need to go and buy something rather than a one stop shop
Public transport should be seen as a requirement, cap the volume of cars allowed per household, make public transport affordable and reliable and reduce the volume of vehicles on our roads, invest in monorails for larger cities.
etc etc
All pie in the sky ideas, they'll be ridiculed, I know that, but im on an MP so it really doesn't matter and 2.. They're all my personal thoughts, I don't believe many will share them. |
That's essentially a managed economy referencing the 1980's as inspiration.
I do like the addition of monorails though - that's a nice touch.
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:48 - Nov 28 with 1319 views | Blueorder |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 16:52 - Nov 27 by Blueschev |
My fear, albeit far-fetched, is that she is so bad that she's booted out of the job, Farage joins the party, wins the subsequent leadership election and then fights a general election against an unpopular Labour Party with 90% of the UK press behind him.
May sound daft, but 15 years ago if you'd have predicted a Labour Party led by Jeremy Corbyn, Paul Lambert being appointed Ipswich manager, and Donald Trump winning two US elections, you'd have sounded equally daft. [Post edited 27 Nov 2024 16:54]
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This is not far fetched. This will be the route in for Farage. |  | | |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:56 - Nov 28 with 1287 views | Ryorry |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 19:53 - Nov 27 by FrimleyBlue |
There's no party, no leader that's with voting for. The whole thing is fked no matter which party governs.
The way life works now it can't be reversed, the Internet has replaced the need for most shops. Inventions like the self checkouts have replaced thousands of jobs. Online banking has taken away high street banks. More Jobs gone. Hospitality is fked so more are closing again More jobs gone.
Brexit has bugered care sector employment a big part of the lack of beds in hospitals etc etc
Utility costs are sky high which no party can bring down
House prices and rents are sky high no one can afford anything
Prisoners released early, many with no where to go. No support and many will reoffend just to get off the street ( I know one personally and they know many)
Climate change Is not our problem, according to governments it seems, someone else can deal with it in 100 years time.
Uk isn't built for such a level of car and lorry transportation. The roads can't cope
The UK isn't big enough for the volume of residents. Let alone the influx if immigrants awaiting processing or those who've passed
Schools are not big enough to cope with the volume of pupils
Hospitals not big enough to cope with the volume of people
So no. I don't want a tory government back in
I don't want a labour party
I don't want a reform party
There is no party that can fix what the UK and parts of the world has become. To much has gone wrong imo that it can't be fixed.
The latest labour NI chances won't work. It'll have the opposite effect. We will then have a reverse budget in a year which will have no effect either.
So no my original post wasn't about Kimmy being better. I've amended it as that wasn't my intention, It's the fact none of them are worth giving to shts about as they don't just say it as it is and that the world is fked it needs a reset. [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 14:40]
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"Climate change Is not our problem, they can deal with it in 100 years time."
That's the stupidest comment I've ever seen on here (which is really saying something). That there might not be any humans left to deal with it In 100 years time is the problem, given the rate of its acceleration now. |  |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:59 - Nov 28 with 1281 views | leitrimblue |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:17 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
The Answers i'd have wouldn't be liked so it's pointless.
Brexit fked us, that's not being reversed
What is now classed as illness's/disabilities have made more people unable to work than ever before, that won't change unless you reverse the notion that anxiety, mental health etc isn't something to stop you working, to many people fall into that pot now who wouldnt previously and unfortunately it overshadows those who actually suffer form them immensely and not those who use it because they can't be bothered to leave the house.
I'd personally give those on benefits community roles whilst claiming until they get into work, could be road sweeping, park cleaning, helping out at soup kitchens, working with homeless people etc.
For the most severe sanctions in unemployment, work coaches should be able to attend job interviews to spot check candidates aren't purposely throwing away chances at jobs. etc
I personally would remove all self checkouts and ban them, resulting in the return and requirement of thousands of check out workers.. a position that was highly popular for people who did had disabilities but desire to work, or ageing pensioners that just wanted to keep working.
return of the high street banks, requirements for staff, remove the ability to open accounts online, or amend things online.
Reduce what supermarkets could sell whilst also bringing in caps to how many mini supermarkets were allowed in a town, would bring back the high streets where people need to go and buy something rather than a one stop shop
Public transport should be seen as a requirement, cap the volume of cars allowed per household, make public transport affordable and reliable and reduce the volume of vehicles on our roads, invest in monorails for larger cities.
etc etc
All pie in the sky ideas, they'll be ridiculed, I know that, but im on an MP so it really doesn't matter and 2.. They're all my personal thoughts, I don't believe many will share them. |
Work coaches should be able to attend job interviews to spot check candidates aren't purposely throwing away chances at jobs 
' Tell me Mr Leitrim why do you think you are suitable for this sh1te job the jobcentre as sent you here for?'
'Well to be honest I'm not sure I am that suitable, I have an incredible problem dragging my sorry arse outta bed in the morning and punctuality is a strange and foreign concept to me' (Leitrim 1993)
I'm sorry, I don't think I can offer you this sh1te job
Argh, no worries I'll survive | | | |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 14:03 - Nov 28 with 1252 views | positivity |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:48 - Nov 28 by Blueorder |
This is not far fetched. This will be the route in for Farage. |
the lambert route? not sure if farage has ever played for dortmund, so the conservative's version of marcus evans may not be so easily impressed... |  |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 14:38 - Nov 28 with 1178 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:56 - Nov 28 by Ryorry |
"Climate change Is not our problem, they can deal with it in 100 years time."
That's the stupidest comment I've ever seen on here (which is really saying something). That there might not be any humans left to deal with it In 100 years time is the problem, given the rate of its acceleration now. |
Not sure if it's been taken the wrong way, I was saying the governments dont seem to see it as our problem but one they can deal with in a 100 years time..
I've amended the phrase in my op. [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 14:41]
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 14:42 - Nov 28 with 1178 views | NedPlimpton |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 13:56 - Nov 28 by Ryorry |
"Climate change Is not our problem, they can deal with it in 100 years time."
That's the stupidest comment I've ever seen on here (which is really saying something). That there might not be any humans left to deal with it In 100 years time is the problem, given the rate of its acceleration now. |
Removed as frimmers has explained his climate change comment [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 14:44]
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 15:13 - Nov 28 with 1134 views | BlueForYou |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 11:49 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
I get that Labour, starmer has its fans, I get Tories have their own, I just find it difficult to think of any reason to give two shts about any of them when imo there's not much any party can do to actually save the uk from what the world has become.
Labour will do things that aren't popular, conservatives would do the same, same with reform same with all others. The fact that they all come into power and things don't actually end up positive isn't a slight on those in power, it's just realism that there isn't much any of them can do about things. |
Would the Swiss system be something to consider? It's very democratic but can't ever see the parties making way for it. |  | | |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 15:27 - Nov 28 with 1106 views | itfcjoe |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 10:59 - Nov 28 by DJR |
I listened to it on the radio, and thought she did OK, and certainly much better than the first two times.
At the end of the day, PMQs, when it comes to the opposition, is really only about getting a soundbite which might play well on the 6 O'clock news.
Incidentally, PMQs is not necessarily easy for an opposition leader, although Hague was good at it. Indeed, you see it with Starmer who seems much more comfortable at PMQs now he is on the other side. [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 11:02]
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Yep, I listened back today and thought it was her best showing yet - prob a score draw though but felt she has been quite easily swotted aside in previous weeks. |  |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 15:32 - Nov 28 with 1087 views | itfcjoe |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 12:28 - Nov 28 by giant_stow |
There's a school near me that currently has 12 kids in its reception class. It's numbers have gone from c600 a few years ago, to c300 now. It's a struggling school, with a head who's just left in disgrace, but all the same... Also heard of two primaries which have shut in Hackney recently, which has been blamed on the falling birth rate. |
My kids school has gone from 3 classes to 2 as it wasn't getting enough numbers in = typically it has had another 'Good' OFSTED report whilst another in the same area has gone all the way from Outstanding to 'Requires Improvement' so would easily fill the 3 classes up now not everyone is trying to send them there.
But does mean my eldest has 21 in his class and youngest has 30 which is a shame, although think my eldest class may now be up to 24 as influx of kids trying to get to the school | |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 17:28 - Nov 28 with 916 views | Mullet |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 11:44 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Yes Appreciate the average is lower than my wording, I wasn't saying all schools, just that we have schools with 30 kids into a class, we've got 3 this end that regularly are over populated with kids mainly due to staff shortages etc so pupils are going into mixed classes quite often. |
Perhaps blame the Tories and their press lackeys for running the profession into the ground. Retention and recruitment is a huge problem. People don’t want to teach because of the pay and conditions. |  |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 18:16 - Nov 28 with 863 views | Dubtractor |
This feels an appropriate place to share this.
Kemi Badenoch at #PMQs: "We had a budget in March this year and tractors were not blockading the streets of Whitehall afterwards."
Here are the tractors blockading the streets of Whitehall in March this year. They were protesting - you really couldn't make this up - Badenoch's trade policies. 😂 — Alex Andreou (@sturdyalex.bsky.social) 2024-11-27T12:42:19.098Z
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 18:41 - Nov 28 with 821 views | Swansea_Blue |
Good lord, the state of that speech in the second article. Absolutely deluded and lacking any self-awareness whatsoever. The whole crux of her rambling seems to be that she wants to go back to a romanticised view of the1960s (that she had no experience of). |  |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 18:44 - Nov 28 with 815 views | Mullet |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 12:51 - Nov 28 by Zapers |
As usual, a fair summary.
Which is more than can be said from the village idiot ‘LOL’ |
Where was your summary? | |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 18:46 - Nov 28 with 811 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 18:16 - Nov 28 by Dubtractor |
This feels an appropriate place to share this.
Kemi Badenoch at #PMQs: "We had a budget in March this year and tractors were not blockading the streets of Whitehall afterwards."
Here are the tractors blockading the streets of Whitehall in March this year. They were protesting - you really couldn't make this up - Badenoch's trade policies. 😂 — Alex Andreou (@sturdyalex.bsky.social) 2024-11-27T12:42:19.098Z
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She’s never come across as particularly bright. Either she’s forgotten about that, she genuinely didn’t notice at the time, or she’s lying. Any of the three are possible. She’s always struck me as having the intellect of a Liz Truss crossed with the morals of a Sue-Ellen Braverman. | |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 19:44 - Nov 28 with 737 views | GeoffSentence |
She's either a complete dimwit or deliberately trying to re-write history.
After her 'nothing in the budget about defence' comment in her first week, this time she had 'we had a budget in March and there weren't farmers protesting in Westminster after that'
Except.....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68655439
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 23:38 - Nov 28 with 658 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 19:44 - Nov 28 by GeoffSentence |
She's either a complete dimwit or deliberately trying to re-write history.
After her 'nothing in the budget about defence' comment in her first week, this time she had 'we had a budget in March and there weren't farmers protesting in Westminster after that'
Except.....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68655439
awkward |
Hopeless
The tories are useless at choosing Leaders |  | | |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 09:17 - Nov 29 with 509 views | Ryorry |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 14:38 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Not sure if it's been taken the wrong way, I was saying the governments dont seem to see it as our problem but one they can deal with in a 100 years time..
I've amended the phrase in my op. [Post edited 28 Nov 2024 14:41]
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 12:17 - Nov 29 with 455 views | positivity |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 23:38 - Nov 28 by reusersfreekicks |
Hopeless
The tories are useless at choosing Leaders |
she's coming across as very truss-ian at the moment.
just thankful she hasn't got the position to be able to do the damage her predecessor inflicted on us. | |
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| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 12:33 - Nov 29 with 425 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Sounds as though Sir Keir Starmer on 16:38 - Nov 27 by factual_blue |
Although I'm very happy to be debated in Parliament. |
Would make a nice bookend with that time you were referenced at the Witan of 1044. | | | |
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