| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance 21:50 - Dec 11 with 4299 views | Basuco |
on an emergency? The sun, mail and express would have a huge splash on the front page tomorrow. Lets see if they report this because it is those loveable farmers, not JSO.
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 21:54 - Dec 11 with 3679 views | SitfcB |
Looks like they’re trying to move to be fair but London traffic innit b |  |
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| I mean they are literally.... on 22:00 - Dec 11 with 3668 views | Bloots |
....moving out of the way for it.
That Twitter account really isn't the best source of balanced news! |  |
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:14 - Dec 11 with 3613 views | BloomBlue |
Try driving in London on any normal day and you'll see ambulances with flashing blues regularly stuck in the sheer weight of traffic.
The congestion charge reduced traffic for the first 8 weeks when it was introduced and then quickly went back to normal. Having lived in London for as long as I have I can safely say, volume of traffic in London is now worse than it ever was.
The difference with that incident today is they are at least trying to get out of the way, Just stop oil sat in the road and refused to move |  | | |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:23 - Dec 11 with 3561 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:14 - Dec 11 by BloomBlue |
Try driving in London on any normal day and you'll see ambulances with flashing blues regularly stuck in the sheer weight of traffic.
The congestion charge reduced traffic for the first 8 weeks when it was introduced and then quickly went back to normal. Having lived in London for as long as I have I can safely say, volume of traffic in London is now worse than it ever was.
The difference with that incident today is they are at least trying to get out of the way, Just stop oil sat in the road and refused to move |
It never ceases to amaze me that some people who have a choice actually choose to live in London. |  | | |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:56 - Dec 11 with 3460 views | Lord_Lucan |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:23 - Dec 11 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It never ceases to amaze me that some people who have a choice actually choose to live in London. |
Really????
I would love to live in London, but I can't afford to..........
........which bemuses me a bit as for the grace of God, I am relatively "Comfortable"
If and when I drive through, I wonder how some of the people I see can afford it. |  |
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:58 - Dec 11 with 3449 views | J2BLUE |
They are making an effort to move unlike JSO...surely you can see that? |  |
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 23:52 - Dec 11 with 3386 views | quirkie |
Made a bit of a tit of yourself here OP. [Post edited 12 Dec 2024 1:17]
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 08:44 - Dec 12 with 3105 views | Pendejo |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:23 - Dec 11 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It never ceases to amaze me that some people who have a choice actually choose to live in London. |
I had the opportunity to move from London when my mother passed away and left an inheritance, but even then the affordability meant Clacton or Lowestoft/Yarmouth.
Decided London offered much more in terms of employment opportunities for my children.
The worst traffic is central London, but if you're going there (and are physically able) you use our excellent public transport system.
And if I won Euromillions would probably live within 5 miles of where I live now... Even if just a home base as I'd be travelling a lot. Nice 6th floor apartment overlooking London Eye please
Finally, as I've posted before, never ceased to be amazed at London drivers willingly getting out of the way of emergency vehicles, unlike Bogota where no-one gives a feck |  |
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 09:00 - Dec 12 with 3058 views | StokieBlue |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:23 - Dec 11 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It never ceases to amaze me that some people who have a choice actually choose to live in London. |
It never ceases to amaze me that people who don't live in London have such a clear and informed view of what it's like to live in London.
It's a fabulous city, might not be for everyone and that's absolutely fine but for others there is nowhere better to be.
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 09:15 - Dec 12 with 2994 views | lowhouseblue |
what you've done is remind everyone that just stop oil have blocked ambulances and contrasted that with decent people who do try to get out of the way when an ambulance comes. really top work. |  |
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 09:39 - Dec 12 with 2927 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:23 - Dec 11 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It never ceases to amaze me that some people who have a choice actually choose to live in London. |
Where do you live exactly? I bet for every 1 reason you can say why it's great to live where you live, I can name 5 for London.
Also "London" is such a big and varied place. I bet you haven't even visited 80% of it to make such a judgement. |  |
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 09:44 - Dec 12 with 2909 views | lazyblue |
Doesn’t compare to just stop oil protests in so many ways | | | |
| I mean they are literally.... on 09:50 - Dec 12 with 2880 views | Dubtractor |
| I mean they are literally.... on 22:00 - Dec 11 by Bloots |
....moving out of the way for it.
That Twitter account really isn't the best source of balanced news! |
Agree that the source us biased as hell, and they are trying to move, but doesn't change the fact that the ambulance still can't get through.
Not aimed at you in particular, but it is interesting how peoples attitude to protest changes when they sympathise with the cause...... [Post edited 12 Dec 2024 9:51]
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| For the record…. on 09:55 - Dec 12 with 2838 views | Bloots |
| I mean they are literally.... on 09:50 - Dec 12 by Dubtractor |
Agree that the source us biased as hell, and they are trying to move, but doesn't change the fact that the ambulance still can't get through.
Not aimed at you in particular, but it is interesting how peoples attitude to protest changes when they sympathise with the cause...... [Post edited 12 Dec 2024 9:51]
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….Ive got little sympathy for the cause, pay up I say.
Not aimed at you in particular, but it’s interesting how people’s attitude to protest changes when they don’t sympathise with the cause…. | |
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| I mean they are literally.... on 09:58 - Dec 12 with 2821 views | giant_stow |
| I mean they are literally.... on 09:50 - Dec 12 by Dubtractor |
Agree that the source us biased as hell, and they are trying to move, but doesn't change the fact that the ambulance still can't get through.
Not aimed at you in particular, but it is interesting how peoples attitude to protest changes when they sympathise with the cause...... [Post edited 12 Dec 2024 9:51]
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Speaking as someone who didn't like the form of the Just Stop Oil protests, but did like the cause, whether or not this ambulance's journey was seriously delayed or not* is besides the point.
Those farmers turned up to disrupt London traffic, just like Just Stop Oil did and it worked for both. One bunch gets 5 years a piece, the other celebrated in the shires. But who's cause was more noble? The crusties flagging up global peril, or the farmers whinging about a few more rich people paying a little more tax?
*there's a longer version of this video where you see the ambulance break free soon after the fella walks past the knackered bus: Another example of the farmers protest impeding ambulances, again near Waterloo — Josiah Mortimer (@josiah.writes.news) 2024-12-11T14:34:57.197Z
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| For the record…. on 10:01 - Dec 12 with 2782 views | Dubtractor |
| For the record…. on 09:55 - Dec 12 by Bloots |
….Ive got little sympathy for the cause, pay up I say.
Not aimed at you in particular, but it’s interesting how people’s attitude to protest changes when they don’t sympathise with the cause…. |
Agree fully with that counter point, and was sort of implied in my post. | |
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| I mean they are literally.... on 10:06 - Dec 12 with 2742 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I mean they are literally.... on 09:50 - Dec 12 by Dubtractor |
Agree that the source us biased as hell, and they are trying to move, but doesn't change the fact that the ambulance still can't get through.
Not aimed at you in particular, but it is interesting how peoples attitude to protest changes when they sympathise with the cause...... [Post edited 12 Dec 2024 9:51]
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The attitudes is the most interesting, albeit predictable, part of it.
There’s also a genuine interesting discussion to be had about whether farmers should be exempt from IHT. Against - other business owners don’t get that exemption; it results in a closed shop that stifles new thinking, innovation and agricultural training/experiences available to a wider pool of young people. For - agriculture is often said to be not like other businesses (not sure I agree - water companies are arguably more important); food security considerations. |  |
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| I mean they are literally.... on 11:09 - Dec 12 with 2530 views | CoachRob |
| I mean they are literally.... on 09:50 - Dec 12 by Dubtractor |
Agree that the source us biased as hell, and they are trying to move, but doesn't change the fact that the ambulance still can't get through.
Not aimed at you in particular, but it is interesting how peoples attitude to protest changes when they sympathise with the cause...... [Post edited 12 Dec 2024 9:51]
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I think people get very exercised once they have consumed their particular type of media, one poster on this thread is using the Farage-esque baiting language to support their side over another.
The phenomenon of the overnight 'expert' seems to be on the rise since Gove and his ilk. |  | | |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 12:34 - Dec 12 with 2401 views | usm |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 09:39 - Dec 12 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Where do you live exactly? I bet for every 1 reason you can say why it's great to live where you live, I can name 5 for London.
Also "London" is such a big and varied place. I bet you haven't even visited 80% of it to make such a judgement. |
Chill, bro, its just his opinion - which is just as valid as yours. |  |
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 12:57 - Dec 12 with 2333 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 12:34 - Dec 12 by usm |
Chill, bro, its just his opinion - which is just as valid as yours. |
I'm perfectly chilled (in fact I'm tucked up on the sofa with a cold, I don't have the energy to be angry!) I'm just asking what he bases that opinion on (and what's so great about where he lives). Perfectly reasonable question, I thought. | |
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 15:31 - Dec 12 with 2158 views | GlasgowBlue |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 09:39 - Dec 12 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Where do you live exactly? I bet for every 1 reason you can say why it's great to live where you live, I can name 5 for London.
Also "London" is such a big and varied place. I bet you haven't even visited 80% of it to make such a judgement. |
I believe AM lives in Edinburgh, which is a beautiful historic city with plenty of culture, bars, restaurants, clubs,museums, theatres etc. I stand to be corrected but I believe that Edinburgh has the most millionaires per square miler in the whole of the UK.
As for London, it's a beautiful city. I could quite happily live there. I also know my way around it very well so can take a few side streets to avoid traffic, but the tube is great so rarely drive there these days. |  |
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 21:19 - Dec 12 with 1944 views | Swansea_Blue |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:23 - Dec 11 by ArnoldMoorhen |
It never ceases to amaze me that some people who have a choice actually choose to live in London. |
It’s certainly not for me. I lived in the outskirts for a few years and spent time at a girlfriend’s further in. I got used to it, but I found it a breath of fresh air (literally) to move away. You can take the boy out of Suffolk, but it seems you can’t take Suffolk out of the boy. Anywhere in the SE is too busy, noisy, hectic or pompous for me. | |
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| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 22:04 - Dec 12 with 1900 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| What if Just Stop Oil had blocked an ambulance on 21:19 - Dec 12 by Swansea_Blue |
It’s certainly not for me. I lived in the outskirts for a few years and spent time at a girlfriend’s further in. I got used to it, but I found it a breath of fresh air (literally) to move away. You can take the boy out of Suffolk, but it seems you can’t take Suffolk out of the boy. Anywhere in the SE is too busy, noisy, hectic or pompous for me. |
The Dollers clan, when they came down to visit me and Lady Dollers in Crystal Palace a few months ago, were surprised at how green and leafy it is. Certainly isn't busy or noisy either. | |
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| I mean they are literally.... on 02:40 - Dec 13 with 1738 views | Ryorry |
| I mean they are literally.... on 10:06 - Dec 12 by Swansea_Blue |
The attitudes is the most interesting, albeit predictable, part of it.
There’s also a genuine interesting discussion to be had about whether farmers should be exempt from IHT. Against - other business owners don’t get that exemption; it results in a closed shop that stifles new thinking, innovation and agricultural training/experiences available to a wider pool of young people. For - agriculture is often said to be not like other businesses (not sure I agree - water companies are arguably more important); food security considerations. |
"Other businesses don't get that exemption"
Yes they do - please tell me of any other UK business that pays any IHT whatsoever on their business assets?
I'm sure farmers would love to have parity with every other business in the country.
Land is not a luxury acquisition for the vast majority of working farmers, it's literally their business tool, just as lorries are for haulage companies or offices are for insurance companies. No land, no farming business. |  |
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