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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment 15:12 - Feb 11 with 41306 viewsJimmy86

It would seem that calling a police officer stupid and white is acceptable in today's society..

Imagine the uproar if that particular slur had been used against someone of BAME origin.. think the sentence and certainly reaction to it would have been different
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:33 - Feb 11 with 1458 viewsStNeotsBlue

As a taxi driver I'm more interested in did she get fined for the puking up, to cover the costs of cleaning and loss of earnings and for the smashing of a window. Haven't really followed the case closely but does anyone know?
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:35 - Feb 11 with 1430 viewstextbackup

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:28 - Feb 11 by tcblue

I know we don't like context here, but there's also a (much) higher bar for "alarm, harassment and distress" for police officers than the general public.

My guess is that the jury might have had some of that sort of info and it contributed to the outcome


Should have used that one after the officer claimed he’d was DEEPLY offended and upset by my wan.Kerr sign at Norwich 20 years ago then.
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:36 - Feb 11 with 1428 viewsfactual_blue

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:03 - Feb 11 by Swailsey

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A subsequent post from Phil


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'Abuse'
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:37 - Feb 11 with 1421 viewsSwailsey

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:36 - Feb 11 by factual_blue

How will Phil's post be titled?

'Ahem'
'Thread deleted'
'Abuse'
'Sort this out Gav'


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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:40 - Feb 11 with 1377 viewsJakeITFC

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:35 - Feb 11 by textbackup

Should have used that one after the officer claimed he’d was DEEPLY offended and upset by my wan.Kerr sign at Norwich 20 years ago then.
[Post edited 11 Feb 17:37]


Same thing here though surely - the copper said he was shocked, upset and humiliated by the comment calling stupid and white but only remembered to mention that 11 months after his initial statement. Think it's more a case that there is no guilt here for racially aggravated harassment because the police officer clearly didn't actually get particularly offended by her words.

Kerr was being an absolute idiot to the coppers (although when I spoke to my missus about it she said she'd understand the context of them being scared and worried if a cab driver did the same to her and a friend which caused the initial argument).
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This has got 10 pages and.... on 17:41 - Feb 11 with 1367 viewspositivity

This has got 10 pages and.... on 17:33 - Feb 11 by SWBlue22

Double standard Britain I'm afraid.


does the sw stand for snowflake whinger?

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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:41 - Feb 11 with 1367 viewsHerbivore

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:04 - Feb 11 by blueasfook

You probably shouldn't take offence at any of it


I'm sure you of all people can appreciate that stupid is our word and it's not okay when non-stupid people use it.

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lol. (n/t) on 17:42 - Feb 11 with 1356 viewsBloots

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:19 - Feb 11 by MattinLondon

And the usual suspects are getting offended about nothing.



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This has got 10 pages and.... on 17:43 - Feb 11 with 1356 viewsHerbivore

This has got 10 pages and.... on 17:21 - Feb 11 by textbackup

I’ll not bother replying then.

But imagine explain how awful racism is to a child, white on black… then that same child reads this and sees it’s not an offence.

Sad really
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It'd be a good opportunity to explain context and nuance to them, I'd imagine.

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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:43 - Feb 11 with 1351 viewsJimmy86

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 16:36 - Feb 11 by Herbivore

Is being called white a slur? Genuine question.


Well, she certainly used it as one... why did she call him white? Why did she even reference his ethnicity? Why didn't she just call him stupid?!
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:45 - Feb 11 with 1324 viewsMattinLondon

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:33 - Feb 11 by StNeotsBlue

As a taxi driver I'm more interested in did she get fined for the puking up, to cover the costs of cleaning and loss of earnings and for the smashing of a window. Haven't really followed the case closely but does anyone know?


She had to pay the drive £900 in compensation.
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:47 - Feb 11 with 1308 viewsJimmy86

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 16:58 - Feb 11 by Herbivore

If someone called me stupid and white, I don't think it's the white bit I'd take as a slur, personally. Load of snowflakes around these days.


As previously mentioned, I'm not offended by what she said.. I don't agree with the double standards and hypocrisy of it... if someone had said "it's because you're stupid and black" that would be deemed racist and there would be outrage, stoked by the media.. because it's been aimed at a white male it's ok..
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This has got 10 pages and.... on 17:48 - Feb 11 with 1291 viewstextbackup

This has got 10 pages and.... on 17:43 - Feb 11 by Herbivore

It'd be a good opportunity to explain context and nuance to them, I'd imagine.


Yeah. I’ll mention if they are locked in a taxi they can use racial words as opposed to stop and take a moment to consider their behaviour leading up to said moment.

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She refused to pay for puking up.... on 17:54 - Feb 11 with 1275 viewsBloots

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:33 - Feb 11 by StNeotsBlue

As a taxi driver I'm more interested in did she get fined for the puking up, to cover the costs of cleaning and loss of earnings and for the smashing of a window. Haven't really followed the case closely but does anyone know?


....so he drove her to the old bill station. She then smashed the window of his cab and gave the copper the abuse when they got there.

If she'd have just paid up when he asked her, I suspect she wouldn't have ended up being charged for racial harassment.

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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:55 - Feb 11 with 1266 viewsClapham_Junction

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 15:16 - Feb 11 by itfcjoe

Two tier policing


Not really sure how it's two tier policing when it went to court and the outcome was decided by a jury? This was an outcome determined by members of the public, not the police or justice system.
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:56 - Feb 11 with 1262 viewsJimmy86

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 16:58 - Feb 11 by Herbivore

If someone called me stupid and white, I don't think it's the white bit I'd take as a slur, personally. Load of snowflakes around these days.


I'm not a snowflake.. I hate snowflakes and the woke generation, where people are offended by the slightest thing.. but, if she had referenced a BAME officers skin colour, after calling him stupid it would be labelled racist.. why is Kerr's behaviour not considered as such, because the officer is white?!
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:56 - Feb 11 with 1258 viewsreusersfreekicks

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 15:20 - Feb 11 by J2BLUE

There's a slight difference in the historical treatment of white people.


This! People just wanna be offended with no understanding of historical racism.
Pretty poor
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:01 - Feb 11 with 1220 viewsJimmy86

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:56 - Feb 11 by reusersfreekicks

This! People just wanna be offended with no understanding of historical racism.
Pretty poor


But, racism is racism, regardless of ethnicity, or is it OK to be racist towards a white person? Genuine question..

Kerr had no need to reference the officers skin colour, correct?
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:25 - Feb 11 with 1139 viewsNthsuffolkblue

I haven't trawled through the 2nd page onwards so apologies if this has been mentioned but:

Her defence is that she was not insulting him but pointing out that he was treating her with white privilege. How the officer has insisted to take offence and pursue it as racist is odd. The release of the video footage showed neither in a good light. It was clear Kerr was wound up and rather than attempt to diffuse the situation the officer clearly spoke to her in a way that was designed to increase her anger. Of course, none of us know whether there was more context from the rest of the interaction leading up to it.

Would my response to being told that I am soo white by someone who is not white be comparable to a racial slur directed at someone due to the colour of their skin? I don't believe so at all.

If Kerr had simply called the officer stupid and asked him whether it was because she was not white that he wasn't listening to her would the officer have arrested her and continues to bring the case? I don't think it is a crime to call a police officer stupid.

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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:26 - Feb 11 with 1130 viewsreusersfreekicks

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:01 - Feb 11 by Jimmy86

But, racism is racism, regardless of ethnicity, or is it OK to be racist towards a white person? Genuine question..

Kerr had no need to reference the officers skin colour, correct?


Maybe read around the subject of prejudice, power and racism.
Being called white is not a slur.
Slavery, income differences, arrest rates etc are racism. This isn't
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This has got 10 pages and.... on 18:31 - Feb 11 with 1101 viewsClapham_Junction

This has got 10 pages and.... on 15:59 - Feb 11 by Jimmy86

If you say so... there would be a completely different reaction if the slur was made to an officer of BAME origin and to suggest otherwise is ignorant to say the least.. the media for one would be all over it


The media quite extensively covered this case. I read several stories on the BBC about it over the past few days.
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:31 - Feb 11 with 1100 viewsreusersfreekicks

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 15:16 - Feb 11 by itfcjoe

Two tier policing


Really isn't
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:32 - Feb 11 with 1084 viewsreusersfreekicks

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 15:20 - Feb 11 by J2BLUE

There's a slight difference in the historical treatment of white people.


How does anyone down vote this.
Mind boggling
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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:33 - Feb 11 with 1082 viewsreusersfreekicks

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 15:27 - Feb 11 by bluelagos

Hope you can cope with it ok.

Remember Twtd is a welcoming place, do feel free to share your hurt at the lack of fairness, am sure many posters will empathize at this difficult time for you and your community.


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Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:35 - Feb 11 with 1063 viewsJimmy86

Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:26 - Feb 11 by reusersfreekicks

Maybe read around the subject of prejudice, power and racism.
Being called white is not a slur.
Slavery, income differences, arrest rates etc are racism. This isn't


But if someone had have said "it's because you're f**king stupid and black" that would be jumped on and deemed racist, would it not? As there is a mention of ethnicity in a derogatory sentence..
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