| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment 15:12 - Feb 11 with 36804 views | Jimmy86 |
It would seem that calling a police officer stupid and white is acceptable in today's society..
Imagine the uproar if that particular slur had been used against someone of BAME origin.. think the sentence and certainly reaction to it would have been different |  | | |  |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:41 - Feb 11 with 1445 views | SWBlue22 |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:56 - Feb 11 by Jimmy86 |
I'm not a snowflake.. I hate snowflakes and the woke generation, where people are offended by the slightest thing.. but, if she had referenced a BAME officers skin colour, after calling him stupid it would be labelled racist.. why is Kerr's behaviour not considered as such, because the officer is white?! |
100%. Shame the delusional left can't detach themselves from their ideology and deflect. |  | | |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:44 - Feb 11 with 1426 views | lowhouseblue |
on the other hand it's a very big step forward for sex equality - she has managed to demonstrate that women at big clubs can be drunken arses just as much as the men there. so well done sam. |  |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:46 - Feb 11 with 1408 views | blueasfook |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:41 - Feb 11 by Herbivore |
I'm sure you of all people can appreciate that stupid is our word and it's not okay when non-stupid people use it. |
Not even if you got da stupid pass? |  |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:47 - Feb 11 with 1403 views | tcblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:32 - Feb 11 by reusersfreekicks |
How does anyone down vote this.
Mind boggling |
White privilege?
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:47 - Feb 11 with 1397 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:35 - Feb 11 by Jimmy86 |
But if someone had have said "it's because you're f**king stupid and black" that would be jumped on and deemed racist, would it not? As there is a mention of ethnicity in a derogatory sentence.. |
What would the motivation of bringing in the colour of the black person's skin be?
I repeat, the comment "you're being soo white" was to point out how the officer was not treating her with the respect that she believes a white person would have been treated.
If you watch the way the officer was speaking to her immediately before the comment, he was not acting to de-escalate the situation, in fact quite the opposite. |  |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:51 - Feb 11 with 1354 views | J2BLUE |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 15:29 - Feb 11 by SitfcB |
So that makes racism towards white people ok? |
No. If it was a physical attack or something like that it wouldn't be. In this case though has anyone ever taken offence to being called white? In the wider context of society it just doesn't seem like a big deal. White people generally don't face discrimination.
I am far from PC but I struggle to think this is a big deal.
Other opinions are available. [Post edited 11 Feb 19:07]
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:51 - Feb 11 with 1348 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 16:24 - Feb 11 by waveneyblue |
I read it fine thanks.
There were two of them One of them threw up and put the back windscreen in. They were p1ssed up and continued to act p1ssed up in the Police Station.
The whole thing stinks and still the usual suspects on here try and justify it.
Laughable and wholly predictable. |
Isn't the thread about the fact a police officer has (wrongly) insisted on bringing a case of racial aggravated harassment rather than the behaviour you describe which I assume she has been dealt with for appropiately (whatever that has invovled)? | |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:55 - Feb 11 with 1332 views | lowhouseblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:51 - Feb 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Isn't the thread about the fact a police officer has (wrongly) insisted on bringing a case of racial aggravated harassment rather than the behaviour you describe which I assume she has been dealt with for appropiately (whatever that has invovled)? |
my understanding, which may be wrong, is that the cps initially thought the public order offences alone didn't meet the threshold for a charge. it was only when the racial element was added that the cps decided it was worthy of a charge.
it's a sad fact that you can behave like an overpaid drunk, abuse a taxi driver, smash his cab window, and abuse police officer, and that alone doesn't merit a charge. | |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:58 - Feb 11 with 1288 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:41 - Feb 11 by SWBlue22 |
100%. Shame the delusional left can't detach themselves from their ideology and deflect. |
There is no ideology or politics in this decision. It was one made by a jury.
It's a shame some can't accept the will of the people. |  | | |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:01 - Feb 11 with 1256 views | positivity |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:55 - Feb 11 by lowhouseblue |
my understanding, which may be wrong, is that the cps initially thought the public order offences alone didn't meet the threshold for a charge. it was only when the racial element was added that the cps decided it was worthy of a charge.
it's a sad fact that you can behave like an overpaid drunk, abuse a taxi driver, smash his cab window, and abuse police officer, and that alone doesn't merit a charge. |
my understanding, which also may be wrong, is that she paid for the damage, and the taxi driver dropped the criminal damage charge. so, she effectively paid a fine for her admitted misdemeanours
the police didn't drop the spurious racism charge, but she was found not guilty of that | |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:07 - Feb 11 with 1183 views | lowhouseblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:01 - Feb 11 by positivity |
my understanding, which also may be wrong, is that she paid for the damage, and the taxi driver dropped the criminal damage charge. so, she effectively paid a fine for her admitted misdemeanours
the police didn't drop the spurious racism charge, but she was found not guilty of that |
who said the police dropped the racism element?? clearly that charge was just heard in court. in any case it's the cps who make the decision.
the fact that she's rich enough to pay off the taxi driver is great. it's like the bullingdon club smashing up restaurants. but that doesn't affect the cps decision on the public order elements. [Post edited 11 Feb 19:09]
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:13 - Feb 11 with 1142 views | waveneyblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:19 - Feb 11 by MattinLondon |
And the usual suspects are getting offended about nothing. |
What a bizarre comment (although you have plenty of form).
I'm not "offended" - just pointing out the ridiculous double standards that now exist. |  | | |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:16 - Feb 11 with 1110 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:13 - Feb 11 by waveneyblue |
What a bizarre comment (although you have plenty of form).
I'm not "offended" - just pointing out the ridiculous double standards that now exist. |
It really isn't a double standard.
If you think the offence you feel at being called "soo white" for not understanding white privilege is of the same order as racist abuse I think you do not understand the true pain of racist abuse. | |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:17 - Feb 11 with 1105 views | MattinLondon |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:13 - Feb 11 by waveneyblue |
What a bizarre comment (although you have plenty of form).
I'm not "offended" - just pointing out the ridiculous double standards that now exist. |
Well if you’re going to get personal, I think we’re done. |  | | |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:22 - Feb 11 with 1093 views | Trequartista |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 15:20 - Feb 11 by J2BLUE |
There's a slight difference in the historical treatment of white people. |
True, but should that make any difference? If 2 babies are born today, 1 white, 1 not white, is it fair to apply different rules to each of them. That would be racist in itself. |  |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:24 - Feb 11 with 1076 views | waveneyblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 18:51 - Feb 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Isn't the thread about the fact a police officer has (wrongly) insisted on bringing a case of racial aggravated harassment rather than the behaviour you describe which I assume she has been dealt with for appropiately (whatever that has invovled)? |
My response was to someone who was going on about the context - I provided the context.
So I was just answering a point. | | | |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:25 - Feb 11 with 1059 views | Jimmy86 |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:16 - Feb 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It really isn't a double standard.
If you think the offence you feel at being called "soo white" for not understanding white privilege is of the same order as racist abuse I think you do not understand the true pain of racist abuse. |
Did she not say to the officer that he was stupid and white? That's my understanding of it.. | | | |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:28 - Feb 11 with 1043 views | vapour_trail |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 15:16 - Feb 11 by itfcjoe |
Two tier policing |
Not really two tier policing though is it. The police are not responsible for the outcome of the trial.
I was surprised she got off, it didn’t sound great.
As an aside, the state of the upvotes column for the OP. What a sh1tshow. |  |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:31 - Feb 11 with 1039 views | waveneyblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:16 - Feb 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It really isn't a double standard.
If you think the offence you feel at being called "soo white" for not understanding white privilege is of the same order as racist abuse I think you do not understand the true pain of racist abuse. |
Firstly absolutely correct, I don't understand the true pain of racist abuse. I'm pretty sure most people don't
However, this is double standards - there was zero need for her to mention the colour of the officers skin and I'm sure she wouldn't have done if she hadn't been p1ssed up.
If this was a white footballer, same situation and said to a black female police officer that she was stupid and black all hell would break loose (and rightly so)
This type of thing does NOTHING for equality and for racism in general. | | | |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:31 - Feb 11 with 1038 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:25 - Feb 11 by Jimmy86 |
Did she not say to the officer that he was stupid and white? That's my understanding of it.. |
She did. The white being in the context of her expressing exasperation at being subject to white privilege.
Effectively the officer said something along the lines of "you should have remained on the phone." To which she replied (amongst many expletives) that she did stay on the phone but they put the phone down on her. She then stated something along the lines "you're being so stupid and white." In other words, "why aren't you listening to what I am saying?" That defence fits with the video footage I have watched and the finding of the court.
How does this compare with actual racial aggravated harassment? | |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:34 - Feb 11 with 1020 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:31 - Feb 11 by waveneyblue |
Firstly absolutely correct, I don't understand the true pain of racist abuse. I'm pretty sure most people don't
However, this is double standards - there was zero need for her to mention the colour of the officers skin and I'm sure she wouldn't have done if she hadn't been p1ssed up.
If this was a white footballer, same situation and said to a black female police officer that she was stupid and black all hell would break loose (and rightly so)
This type of thing does NOTHING for equality and for racism in general. |
You continue to fail to see the reason she referred to the colour of his skin. She was expressing her frustration at being (in her view) subject to white privilege. She felt that a white person would have been listened to by the officer while she was not being.
The jury clearly found that defence of her use of the term (and therefore not in any way as an insult) was not racially aggravated harassment. | |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:39 - Feb 11 with 968 views | Herbivore |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 17:56 - Feb 11 by Jimmy86 |
I'm not a snowflake.. I hate snowflakes and the woke generation, where people are offended by the slightest thing.. but, if she had referenced a BAME officers skin colour, after calling him stupid it would be labelled racist.. why is Kerr's behaviour not considered as such, because the officer is white?! |
It wasn't deemed a racially aggravated offence by a jury for the reasons other posters have already outlined in this thread. |  |
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| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:39 - Feb 11 with 961 views | waveneyblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:31 - Feb 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
She did. The white being in the context of her expressing exasperation at being subject to white privilege.
Effectively the officer said something along the lines of "you should have remained on the phone." To which she replied (amongst many expletives) that she did stay on the phone but they put the phone down on her. She then stated something along the lines "you're being so stupid and white." In other words, "why aren't you listening to what I am saying?" That defence fits with the video footage I have watched and the finding of the court.
How does this compare with actual racial aggravated harassment? |
"Expressing exasperation at being subject to white privilege" - you sound as if she was trying to return library books rather than being p1ssed up in a police station after trashing a cab.
Its amazing the lengths people go to make a point. | | | |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:41 - Feb 11 with 944 views | tcblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:39 - Feb 11 by waveneyblue |
"Expressing exasperation at being subject to white privilege" - you sound as if she was trying to return library books rather than being p1ssed up in a police station after trashing a cab.
Its amazing the lengths people go to make a point. |
Well, in this instance it pales in comparison to the lengths you seem to want to go to willfully misunderstand the context (of anything) | | | |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:41 - Feb 11 with 935 views | waveneyblue |
| Sam Kerr found not guilty of racial aggravated harassment on 19:34 - Feb 11 by Nthsuffolkblue |
You continue to fail to see the reason she referred to the colour of his skin. She was expressing her frustration at being (in her view) subject to white privilege. She felt that a white person would have been listened to by the officer while she was not being.
The jury clearly found that defence of her use of the term (and therefore not in any way as an insult) was not racially aggravated harassment. |
Is "White Privilege" the go to when things aren't going the way you want them to.
It seems on this occasion it is | | | |
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