| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. 12:02 - Feb 13 with 14237 views | Bloots |
….according to The Athletic.
Reliable source. |  |
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| He’ll play cup games…. on 14:44 - Feb 13 with 1589 views | FrimleyBlue |
| He’ll play cup games…. on 14:42 - Feb 13 by itfcjoe |
You can't buy a player and loan him out to another PL club in the same window, so unless he was going abroad then it wouldn't work.
Villa 'bought back' Archer from Sheff U last summer and sold him to Southampton but are under a FIFA investigation into that so that loophole may well be closed now |
Could you buy him but loan to a champ club?
Just thinking if we drop, they buy him back, loan him back to us for the season, he scores 20+ in the champ, his fee will rocket, we get promoted again having gained a 20 mill profit in the meantime... [Post edited 13 Feb 14:46]
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| He’ll play cup games…. on 14:53 - Feb 13 with 1545 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| He’ll play cup games…. on 14:44 - Feb 13 by FrimleyBlue |
Could you buy him but loan to a champ club?
Just thinking if we drop, they buy him back, loan him back to us for the season, he scores 20+ in the champ, his fee will rocket, we get promoted again having gained a 20 mill profit in the meantime... [Post edited 13 Feb 14:46]
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Meanwhile City have made a loss of 20 million. What a silly suggestion. |  | | |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 14:59 - Feb 13 with 1514 views | hunty21 |
But they bought marmoush so won't be interested in delap | | | |
| He’ll play cup games…. on 15:04 - Feb 13 with 1475 views | FrimleyBlue |
| He’ll play cup games…. on 14:53 - Feb 13 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Meanwhile City have made a loss of 20 million. What a silly suggestion. |
He would still be a city player........ | |
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:04 - Feb 13 with 1489 views | itfc48 |
There are so many potential variables. Clubs often like to pay in instalments so if it's £40m in one hit that might make City think twice.
It could also be Delap has a pre-contract with City if they were to activate said buy back. I get the impression from McKenna's comments re Philogene that once Villa matched the fee Philogene was contractually obliged to go to Villa even if we were his first choice. | | | |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:11 - Feb 13 with 1438 views | MattinLondon |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 13:26 - Feb 13 by Smoresy |
My understanding is he would have already agreed to his return terms, so would be in breach of contract should City trigger the clause and he refused to go.* Appreciate others have raised a "modern slavery" point in relation to this on previous threads, but it's little different to him trying rip up his lengthy contract with us because he no longer wants to be bound by it. Player power is stronger than ever but he can't opt to join Chelsea for free in the summer.
*Likely wouldn't be the first time that such a situation were thrashed out in mediation or the courts though. [Post edited 13 Feb 13:29]
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I just cant see that scenario being true - I can understand the theory behind a buy-back clause but not that Delap would have agreed to go back there if he didn’t want to later on.
Anyway, buy-back clauses seem to be in the public domain for other clubs so I don’t understand why this possibility is still being discussed. Either Man City and Ipswich have super tight security on such issues or it doesn’t exist. |  | | |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:13 - Feb 13 with 1431 views | hype313 |
Delap's buyback is going to go down in TWTD folklore with Shefki or Pablo and Keane or Jewell |  |
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:43 - Feb 13 with 1355 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 13:51 - Feb 13 by Smoresy |
Would be very odd for the sell-on clause to find its way into the buy-back clause. |
I give you Philogene to Villa. Different mechanism for securing the player, but sell on clause would apply in the same way.
Youre welcome. [Post edited 13 Feb 15:57]
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| That was a matching clause.... on 15:44 - Feb 13 with 1351 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| That was a matching clause.... on 14:31 - Feb 13 by Bloots |
...not a buy back.
Different scenario. |
Different clause, same scenario. | |
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:44 - Feb 13 with 1351 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:13 - Feb 13 by hype313 |
Delap's buyback is going to go down in TWTD folklore with Shefki or Pablo and Keane or Jewell |
I’m more reliable than the athletic.
Anyone want some delap def info ? by The_Romford_Blue 26 Nov 2024 10:34The buyback situation is far better for us than we all thought.
It’s only that city have the first option to match any bids we receive. There’s no specific fee set for them to have him back on the cheap. It’s just that they can match whatever someone like Chelsea offer. They have a few days to react to the bid that we must disclose to them.
Found out on Sunday. Good news.
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:45 - Feb 13 with 1340 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 14:15 - Feb 13 by Linners |
Particularly a 20% sell-on clause only worth 10%... |
Take it up with Phil....
(You do understand how sell on fees work?!) [Post edited 13 Feb 15:47]
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:46 - Feb 13 with 1329 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 14:23 - Feb 13 by Smoresy |
Wasn't going to be the one to say it but yeah 😅 |
It was reported as 20% sell on clause.
(I assume you realise the sell on clauses apply to profit, not total fee.) | |
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:48 - Feb 13 with 1310 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:44 - Feb 13 by The_Romford_Blue |
I’m more reliable than the athletic.
Anyone want some delap def info ? by The_Romford_Blue 26 Nov 2024 10:34The buyback situation is far better for us than we all thought.
It’s only that city have the first option to match any bids we receive. There’s no specific fee set for them to have him back on the cheap. It’s just that they can match whatever someone like Chelsea offer. They have a few days to react to the bid that we must disclose to them.
Found out on Sunday. Good news.
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I can’t believe you threw out some random “def info” leading to a 5 page argument and not a single person asked you for a source! | | | |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:49 - Feb 13 with 1306 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 14:38 - Feb 13 by Smoresy |
As Bloots mentions, and a matching clause differs in that the future sum is undetermined at the original point of sale, hence a percentage figure, and the new owner has control over whether to sell or accept the offer. A buy-back clause conversely is an imposition on the new owner: "we've taken him back now, money's on the doormat'. |
Agree to differ.
Yes they are different mechanisms for securing a transfer, but the sell on fee would still apply in the same way. | |
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:50 - Feb 13 with 1304 views | itfc_bucks |
People flapping like its a done deal.
*if* Delap is subject to a £40mil bid by city and we're obliged to accept it, theres no reason to think the player will automatically go.
Why would he, knowing he'll not get a look in and be flogged in the very next window to the highest bidder?
He'd be better suited taking his pick from any other bidder and they'll be paying full whack.
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:57 - Feb 13 with 1258 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:50 - Feb 13 by itfc_bucks |
People flapping like its a done deal.
*if* Delap is subject to a £40mil bid by city and we're obliged to accept it, theres no reason to think the player will automatically go.
Why would he, knowing he'll not get a look in and be flogged in the very next window to the highest bidder?
He'd be better suited taking his pick from any other bidder and they'll be paying full whack.
Just chill! |
Because money exists.
City would just offer him a good chunk of the profit they make plus he’ll get a signing on bonus when City move him on again.
He’d be silly not to. | | | |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 16:15 - Feb 13 with 1200 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:48 - Feb 13 by SimonBatfordITFC |
I can’t believe you threw out some random “def info” leading to a 5 page argument and not a single person asked you for a source! |
Because it’s the same source that Phil has confirmed on numerous occasions has been bang on.
Greaves, Norwood, Delap, the Sheff defender being a target, McKenna nearly joining palace. All of those were given to Phil by me or I posted them on the forum.
Delap deal done by The_Romford_Blue 10 Jul 2024 13:17Next 24 hours we will confirm it. Just finishing the small details
Edit - Just seen Phil ran a story on it yesterday. Had missed that. 20m including add ons fwiw is the figure
These Hamer rumours by The_Romford_Blue 12 Aug 2024 23:08Got the wrong Sheffield United player.
No idea if we will get him but the word I’m getting is that we actually want their centre back - Anel Ahmedhodžić.
Absolutely no idea if we have bid or anything (doesn’t sound like we have) but just that the interest is him rather than Hamer.
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 16:28 - Feb 13 with 1142 views | Linners |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:45 - Feb 13 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Take it up with Phil....
(You do understand how sell on fees work?!) [Post edited 13 Feb 15:47]
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I think the point was about the maths, not the clause. 20% of £40m is £8m, not £4m... |  | | |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 16:28 - Feb 13 with 1140 views | Smoresy |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 15:46 - Feb 13 by Marshalls_Mullet |
It was reported as 20% sell on clause.
(I assume you realise the sell on clauses apply to profit, not total fee.) |
Odd assumption given what I've written in this thread prior to 15:46. 😅 Sorry that my first impression was you'd made a maths blunder, though I didn't point out that I thought you had in my reply to your post, so I award myself a credit point for that. I hold a pretty mild interest in sell-on clauses and am happy to declare I'm wrong (much happier to concede prior articles have misinformed me than I would be to read further on the subject, no doubt).
I don't understand why a predetermined figure would be subjected to a percentage adjustment afterwards, however. The buy-back figure clearly isn't £40m, if it's £40m minus 20% profit, so why go to the pretence of agreeing to an incorrect amount in the clause? It makes perfect sense with matching clauses because the transfer fee is undetermined. | | | |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 16:49 - Feb 13 with 1055 views | textbackup |
HOW FCKING DARE YOU
HES WORTH £70
NO £90
NO £100m AND WE WOUKDNT EVEN SELL AT THAT PRICE… |  |
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| Really? Why not….? on 16:51 - Feb 13 with 1046 views | textbackup |
| Really? Why not….? on 12:10 - Feb 13 by Bloots |
….I’ve never understood why people think that Ashton is some sort of “negotiation legend”.
We’ve overpaid for a lot of our signings in my opinion, plus I’m pretty sure City have better negotiators than him. |
If you don’t put on some blue tinted glasses. And sing tractor boys make some noise then I’m unfollowing you on Twitter. | |
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 16:56 - Feb 13 with 1020 views | bazza |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 12:51 - Feb 13 by FrimleyBlue |
I think delaps going to be a top player. But I may be the only one who thinks the media have overblown his performances this season. |
Your definitely not the only one. |  | | |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 17:11 - Feb 13 with 945 views | Denny32 |
Well unless he scores at least another 7 to 10 goals till end of season .it be 30 million at best . | | | |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 17:24 - Feb 13 with 917 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 16:28 - Feb 13 by Linners |
I think the point was about the maths, not the clause. 20% of £40m is £8m, not £4m... |
Sell on clause of 20% on the £20m profit. (£40m minus c.£20m initial fee).
20% of £20m is £4m.
You're welcome.
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| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 17:25 - Feb 13 with 914 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| £40m straight buy back for Delap…. on 16:28 - Feb 13 by Smoresy |
Odd assumption given what I've written in this thread prior to 15:46. 😅 Sorry that my first impression was you'd made a maths blunder, though I didn't point out that I thought you had in my reply to your post, so I award myself a credit point for that. I hold a pretty mild interest in sell-on clauses and am happy to declare I'm wrong (much happier to concede prior articles have misinformed me than I would be to read further on the subject, no doubt).
I don't understand why a predetermined figure would be subjected to a percentage adjustment afterwards, however. The buy-back figure clearly isn't £40m, if it's £40m minus 20% profit, so why go to the pretence of agreeing to an incorrect amount in the clause? It makes perfect sense with matching clauses because the transfer fee is undetermined. |
I hadnt made a maths blunder, so you were right not to mention that. No credit points available.
Happy to agree to differ on whether the sell on clause would be applicable. | |
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