| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? 10:15 - Apr 22 with 3433 views | MaySixth |
I'd like to think we keep hold of Hutchinson and Davis but I am not sure.
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| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:17 - Apr 22 with 2930 views | SomethingBlue |
There will be a number of clubs who appreciate exactly what Omari has done this season, and could do with time & different circumstances – and probably appreciate it much better than some of our fans. |  |
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| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:21 - Apr 22 with 2896 views | Jon_456 |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:17 - Apr 22 by SomethingBlue |
There will be a number of clubs who appreciate exactly what Omari has done this season, and could do with time & different circumstances – and probably appreciate it much better than some of our fans. |
I’d be surprised if he moved on.
We’ll want more than what we paid for him and I can’t see many prem clubs paying £30m for him just yet. I think he’d be better off getting a full season in the champ and either get us promoted or get a decent move next summer when he’ll likely be more ready for the prem.
Important to remember he’s only 21 so plenty of time on his hands. | | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:22 - Apr 22 with 2865 views | SomethingBlue |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:21 - Apr 22 by Jon_456 |
I’d be surprised if he moved on.
We’ll want more than what we paid for him and I can’t see many prem clubs paying £30m for him just yet. I think he’d be better off getting a full season in the champ and either get us promoted or get a decent move next summer when he’ll likely be more ready for the prem.
Important to remember he’s only 21 so plenty of time on his hands. |
I hope you are right as nobody in that division will be able to live with him. | |
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| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:24 - Apr 22 with 2864 views | JakeITFC |
GK - probably a restructure here that sees at least two of Walton/Muric/Slicker leave.
RB: I wonder if somebody will see something in Johnson's resurgence and fancies a punt. Harry Clarke's future probably depends on what Axel ends up doing.
CB: I imagine O'Shea will have suitors, but we might hold firm there.
LB: Leif would be on the radar of a few, however hasn't had a great month or so. Would be an incredible coup to keep him for the Championship again.
CM: Do we say goodbye to Morsy and Luongo this summer? This area needs the most investment from us imo.
RW: Can't really see Ogbene or Burns going given injuries, Philogene is one that maybe consider recouping cash on if they get an offer that allows it (but can't see that).
CAM: Omari will definitely be on a lot of smart Premier League lists. I think we'd look to keep Chaplin and Szmodics for the Championship unless we got offers that we couldn't turn down.
LW: Broadhead has supposedly been close to the exit in the last two windows, but I'd like to see him stay. Clarke will be our main man there next year you feel.
ST: Hirst stays, Delap and Al-Hamadi go. |  | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:40 - Apr 22 with 2740 views | tetchris |
Hopefully Davis will be sold | | | |
| Depends what his…. on 10:43 - Apr 22 with 2688 views | Bloots |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:21 - Apr 22 by Jon_456 |
I’d be surprised if he moved on.
We’ll want more than what we paid for him and I can’t see many prem clubs paying £30m for him just yet. I think he’d be better off getting a full season in the champ and either get us promoted or get a decent move next summer when he’ll likely be more ready for the prem.
Important to remember he’s only 21 so plenty of time on his hands. |
….relegation release clause is.
If it’s within the reach of that middle tier of Prem clubs, Bournemouth, Brentford, Fulham etc, then I can see him going somewhere. |  |
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| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:44 - Apr 22 with 2681 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Omari will be off I think. |  |
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| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:52 - Apr 22 with 2617 views | chicoazul |
Delap and Omari and Muric have plenty of suitors, same with Dara and Davis (who would be a big upgrade for Leeds). Burgess Luongo Broadhead will probably go.
You’re looking at Palmer Townsend Greaves Johnson Woolf Hirst Sammie Wes Ogbene Clarke Philogene as the base minerals really. Morsy will prob stick around. |  |
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| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 11:12 - Apr 22 with 2455 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
I think the 3 standouts will be Delap, O'Shea and Hutchinson.
- Delap will have a number of options
- O'Shea defends the box well, very strong in aerial duels, capable to deal with a 1v1 man marking situation if he's left to do that, has a turn of pace etc. A good pick up for a bottom 6-8 PL side
- Hutchinson is very good on the half turn in central areas and can carry the ball up the pitch. He's too good for the Championship. |  |
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| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 11:36 - Apr 22 with 2354 views | mutters |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:22 - Apr 22 by SomethingBlue |
I hope you are right as nobody in that division will be able to live with him. |
Personally I've not seen it from his this season, and so currently have questions in my head whether he will tear up the championship next season. At the end of last season it felt like he had a really good base to build on, and this year I've felt quite flat on his performances.
He has the potential, but like Jack Clarke, feels like there is another level that we still need to see. These types of players should be dictating the game which I just haven't seen this season |  |
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| Depends what his…. on 11:44 - Apr 22 with 2297 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Depends what his…. on 10:43 - Apr 22 by Bloots |
….relegation release clause is.
If it’s within the reach of that middle tier of Prem clubs, Bournemouth, Brentford, Fulham etc, then I can see him going somewhere. |
While a relegation release clause can offer 'value' in certain cases, like with Delap, it doesn't benefit a club's finances as they pay the entire sum upfront.
So, even if Omari has a release clause set at £30M, it wouldn't be particularly appealing to many clubs, as it would take a significant chunk out of their summer transfer budget and you wouldn't be getting a discount. Same with O'Shea, same with Davis.
Although I doubt O'Shea has one given we did not pay Burnley one. | | | |
| What makes you think they…. on 11:46 - Apr 22 with 2260 views | Bloots |
| Depends what his…. on 11:44 - Apr 22 by Bellevue_Blue |
While a relegation release clause can offer 'value' in certain cases, like with Delap, it doesn't benefit a club's finances as they pay the entire sum upfront.
So, even if Omari has a release clause set at £30M, it wouldn't be particularly appealing to many clubs, as it would take a significant chunk out of their summer transfer budget and you wouldn't be getting a discount. Same with O'Shea, same with Davis.
Although I doubt O'Shea has one given we did not pay Burnley one. |
….pay the entire amount up front? | |
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| What makes you think they…. on 11:51 - Apr 22 with 2233 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| What makes you think they…. on 11:46 - Apr 22 by Bloots |
….pay the entire amount up front? |
Yeah a release clause requires the buying club to put up all that money at once as opposed to spreading it over the length of the contract.
In the summer, United actually paid more to avoid paying a release clause for Zirkzee - https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/13176680/joshua-zirkzee-manchester [Post edited 22 Apr 11:53]
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| Depends what his…. on 11:54 - Apr 22 with 2205 views | Jon_456 |
| Depends what his…. on 10:43 - Apr 22 by Bloots |
….relegation release clause is.
If it’s within the reach of that middle tier of Prem clubs, Bournemouth, Brentford, Fulham etc, then I can see him going somewhere. |
There is that but then you still have the players decision too.
He seems quite grounded and surely a year starting week in week out in the Championship is far better for his development than being a sub for one of those sides mentioned.
Summerville and Rutter are good examples. | | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 11:58 - Apr 22 with 2180 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 11:36 - Apr 22 by mutters |
Personally I've not seen it from his this season, and so currently have questions in my head whether he will tear up the championship next season. At the end of last season it felt like he had a really good base to build on, and this year I've felt quite flat on his performances.
He has the potential, but like Jack Clarke, feels like there is another level that we still need to see. These types of players should be dictating the game which I just haven't seen this season |
I would disagree on that. I'm not sure a 21 year old with little premier league experience playing in a newly promoted team would be expected to dictate any game.
His G/A numbers haven't been what we would have wanted but I feel his general play has been decent and super important to the way Mckenna wants us to play. He is by far our best ball carrier and think his numbers on those stack up pretty well against the rest of the prem. He is a level above the championship and would expect a club to buy in to the potential. Brentford or Bournemouth maybe. | |
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| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 12:18 - Apr 22 with 2068 views | mutters |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 11:58 - Apr 22 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I would disagree on that. I'm not sure a 21 year old with little premier league experience playing in a newly promoted team would be expected to dictate any game.
His G/A numbers haven't been what we would have wanted but I feel his general play has been decent and super important to the way Mckenna wants us to play. He is by far our best ball carrier and think his numbers on those stack up pretty well against the rest of the prem. He is a level above the championship and would expect a club to buy in to the potential. Brentford or Bournemouth maybe. |
I don't disagree with his potential, I just haven't seen enough of him this season to make me think he's worth £30+ million. Earlier part of the season his head used to drop when he lost the ball, and I never felt like he dictated. Dangerous at times but not consistent. Your point is valid that he is only 21 and will learn from this, I had just hoped he would push on more. My perspective may be different to others.
I am not advocating that we sell him as he has so much more to give, I'd love to keep him in the Championship next year to see if he can rediscover his form where he looked dangerous.
He did seem to play with more confidence as the season progresses, even in a team that wasn't playing as well as it did in the earlier part of the season. | |
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| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 12:29 - Apr 22 with 2021 views | OldFart71 |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:17 - Apr 22 by SomethingBlue |
There will be a number of clubs who appreciate exactly what Omari has done this season, and could do with time & different circumstances – and probably appreciate it much better than some of our fans. |
Question, what has he done this season ? Not a lot really. Not that I am saying he's not a decent player, but like so many he has been absent in some games and obviously he is injured currently. I kind of wonder if these players that are not playing at the moment is also because they are being kept out of the limelight. As for Davis I'm not bothered if he is sold as long as we get good money for him. Alternatively if he stays we need to bolster the midfield so he has better cover when going forward. It will have to happen with the midfield anyway as Phillips, Cajuste and possibly Loungo all move on. I feel that this area will make or break next season as once those three go all you have is Morsy and Taylor. Morsy hasn't got the legs and Taylor has never impressed. Further to that you have the likes of Delap and Tuanzebe likely to go. We don't really want a similar situation to this season where so many new players come in. But I see us needing at least six. | | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 12:51 - Apr 22 with 1912 views | PrideOfTheEast |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 12:29 - Apr 22 by OldFart71 |
Question, what has he done this season ? Not a lot really. Not that I am saying he's not a decent player, but like so many he has been absent in some games and obviously he is injured currently. I kind of wonder if these players that are not playing at the moment is also because they are being kept out of the limelight. As for Davis I'm not bothered if he is sold as long as we get good money for him. Alternatively if he stays we need to bolster the midfield so he has better cover when going forward. It will have to happen with the midfield anyway as Phillips, Cajuste and possibly Loungo all move on. I feel that this area will make or break next season as once those three go all you have is Morsy and Taylor. Morsy hasn't got the legs and Taylor has never impressed. Further to that you have the likes of Delap and Tuanzebe likely to go. We don't really want a similar situation to this season where so many new players come in. But I see us needing at least six. |
He’s been exceptional in several games, including spurs away, Utd at home, setup the goal at Villa, Chelsea at home etc. He’s obviously not been perfect but he’s young and developing. Brentford or similar could buy him and integrate him more slowly. If he’s available for £25 - £30m then I reckon he’ll go and i’d be very pleasantly surprised if he’s here in September. | | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 13:37 - Apr 22 with 1723 views | seblue78 |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:17 - Apr 22 by SomethingBlue |
There will be a number of clubs who appreciate exactly what Omari has done this season, and could do with time & different circumstances – and probably appreciate it much better than some of our fans. |
Has all the tools to be an established PL player - I'd be delighted if we managed to keep him; he'd be tantamount to a Championship cheat code. | | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 13:40 - Apr 22 with 1703 views | itfcsuth |
Reshuffle is needed. Look like an unbalanced & settled group at the moment, where it was the foundation of our success from 22-24.
GK - Palmer, Walton, Slicker
RB - H.Clarke, B.Johnson
CB - O'Shea, Woolfenden, Greaves, Baggott, +1
LB - Townsend, +1
CDM - Morsy, Taylor, Luongo, +2
RM - Burns, Ogbene
CAM - Chaplin, Szmodics, Humphreys
LM - J.Clake, N.Broadhead
ST - G.Hirst
We will need to sell - spent a lot, and straight back down, balancing the books is required. Looking at 'sellable assets':
- Delap
- O.Hutchinson
- L.Davis
- Philogene
- Muric
- Tuanzebe
- Burgess
I think if we can get anything above £75m-£80m there we've done well. |  | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 13:42 - Apr 22 with 1687 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 13:37 - Apr 22 by seblue78 |
Has all the tools to be an established PL player - I'd be delighted if we managed to keep him; he'd be tantamount to a Championship cheat code. |
Back end of last season, he was the best player in the Championship. He's got better since then as well. I'll be delighted if we can keep hold of him. McKenna staying is crucial as I think he has such a good relationship with him and trust in him that he would give him a year. | | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 13:48 - Apr 22 with 1635 views | wrightsrightglove |
Out: Delap, Omari, Davis, Muric (European loan), Walton, Harness, Al-Hamadi, Luongo, Tuanzebe
In: Downes, Kone (3rd choice striker), LB, CM, 1st choice striker
I think our starting 11 will be:
Palmer
Johnson - O’Shea (C) - Greaves - New
New - Downes
Philogene - Szmodics - Clarke
New ST
Second 11:
Slicker
Clarke - Wolf - Burgess - Townsend
Morsy - Taylor
Burns - Chaplin - Broadhead
Hirst
Squad:
Young GK, Ogbene, Kone, Humphries (if not loaned) | | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 13:49 - Apr 22 with 1623 views | sjg |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 13:40 - Apr 22 by itfcsuth |
Reshuffle is needed. Look like an unbalanced & settled group at the moment, where it was the foundation of our success from 22-24.
GK - Palmer, Walton, Slicker
RB - H.Clarke, B.Johnson
CB - O'Shea, Woolfenden, Greaves, Baggott, +1
LB - Townsend, +1
CDM - Morsy, Taylor, Luongo, +2
RM - Burns, Ogbene
CAM - Chaplin, Szmodics, Humphreys
LM - J.Clake, N.Broadhead
ST - G.Hirst
We will need to sell - spent a lot, and straight back down, balancing the books is required. Looking at 'sellable assets':
- Delap
- O.Hutchinson
- L.Davis
- Philogene
- Muric
- Tuanzebe
- Burgess
I think if we can get anything above £75m-£80m there we've done well. |
Tuanzebe and Burgess both out of contract in the summer, Philogene injury looks like it could be a long term one, Muric is crap | | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 13:50 - Apr 22 with 1613 views | Hackneyblueboy |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 10:40 - Apr 22 by tetchris |
Hopefully Davis will be sold |
If we are going to sell 2 or 3 in addition to Delap, I think Davis would make most sense. I don't think his value is going to get any higher and if we could get in region of £15m for him would be great business. We have Townsend and could pick up another LB on loan.
Id like to keep O'Shea and Omari. I think those two will have most interest amongst the others.
Worst case scenario we lose all 4 of them but hopefully can retain at least one.
I'll go sell Delap (£30m), Davis (£15m) and O'Shea (£15m) which should recoup enough funds to keep us is Ok financial health and help us buy some central midfielders. | | | |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 13:52 - Apr 22 with 1601 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Which contracted players could leave in the summer on top of Delap? on 13:40 - Apr 22 by itfcsuth |
Reshuffle is needed. Look like an unbalanced & settled group at the moment, where it was the foundation of our success from 22-24.
GK - Palmer, Walton, Slicker
RB - H.Clarke, B.Johnson
CB - O'Shea, Woolfenden, Greaves, Baggott, +1
LB - Townsend, +1
CDM - Morsy, Taylor, Luongo, +2
RM - Burns, Ogbene
CAM - Chaplin, Szmodics, Humphreys
LM - J.Clake, N.Broadhead
ST - G.Hirst
We will need to sell - spent a lot, and straight back down, balancing the books is required. Looking at 'sellable assets':
- Delap
- O.Hutchinson
- L.Davis
- Philogene
- Muric
- Tuanzebe
- Burgess
I think if we can get anything above £75m-£80m there we've done well. |
I really would be absolutely amazed if we required that level of sales to balance the books.
We spent a lot but we were coming from a position where we had a bottom half Champ wage bill and would have had the lowest wage bill in the PL by some distance. Added to that, the Delap 30M will be on the books for this year in one chunk so that + any parachute payments we get next summer would mean 80+M that we can offset on the books this year already (payment isn't made until next summer but it would fall in the same accounting year)
Equally, Tuanzebe & Burgess are out of contract, Muric would have no value so wouldn't be prudent to sell and Philogene is not going to move for the fourth window in five! [Post edited 22 Apr 13:55]
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