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If it was truly about nothing other than national pride, surely those behind it (Führage, Tommy Ten Names et al.) would be speaking out against incidents like these:
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 10:20 - Sep 2 by Blueschev
I don't live in that bubble at all, I just find the idea that voters who's primary motivation was stopping asylum seekers from crossing the channel voted Labour in significant numbers unlikely.
Unlike you, I realised last week that I do indeed live in a London bubble on this. I was away down south and saw so many flags and painted roundabouts. Then I get home and see two acquaintances separately forwarding Ruppert Lowe social media messages... one them a good person with a warm heart and with many mixed-race grandchildren... it was all a bit shocking tbh.
Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry. Was Ullaa
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:06 - Sep 2 by GlasgowBlue
I don't mate. I think that anyone with serious concerns about immigration will look at Labour's recent rhetoric as simply reinforcing their beliefs and then vote for the party who they know represents their views. Which is reform.
They know that Starmer doesn't really believe the nonsense he's coming out with.
Are you saying that you don't actually believe that Starmer sits in front of a Union Jack every night?
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:46 - Sep 2 with 699 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:20 - Sep 2 by giant_stow
Unlike you, I realised last week that I do indeed live in a London bubble on this. I was away down south and saw so many flags and painted roundabouts. Then I get home and see two acquaintances separately forwarding Ruppert Lowe social media messages... one them a good person with a warm heart and with many mixed-race grandchildren... it was all a bit shocking tbh.
People have forgotten or do not know what happened pre world war 2.
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:50 - Sep 2 with 683 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:20 - Sep 2 by giant_stow
Unlike you, I realised last week that I do indeed live in a London bubble on this. I was away down south and saw so many flags and painted roundabouts. Then I get home and see two acquaintances separately forwarding Ruppert Lowe social media messages... one them a good person with a warm heart and with many mixed-race grandchildren... it was all a bit shocking tbh.
Flags aren't a thing in the area of west Kent where I live, and I didn't see any last week on a trip to Eastbourne.
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:55 - Sep 2 with 640 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:58 - Sep 2 by leitrimblue
Are there many of these flags up around Ipswich?
Would be great move for the club to give away a few hundred Town flags that could be attached to lampposts in the town to replace um if so
I thought similar.
A counter-movement along the lines of 'Raise ALL The Colours' would be great, with the current flags being replaced by ones which represent the multi-cultural makeup of Great Britain.
Sadly it would probably only result in 'Protect The Colours' and well-meaning people being beaten up by cretins.
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:58 - Sep 2 by leitrimblue
Are there many of these flags up around Ipswich?
Would be great move for the club to give away a few hundred Town flags that could be attached to lampposts in the town to replace um if so
Everyone who has international origins should start hanging/painting the flags of those nations, around towns. That way the flags would be a true representation of British culture. It would be great to see streets adorned with Irish, Italian, Nigerian, Thai, Iraqi and British flags.
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 12:07 - Sep 2 by noggin
Everyone who has international origins should start hanging/painting the flags of those nations, around towns. That way the flags would be a true representation of British culture. It would be great to see streets adorned with Irish, Italian, Nigerian, Thai, Iraqi and British flags.
I'll have to look out my Shetland flag which has the Nordic Cross and the colours of the Scottish flag.
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 13:07 - Sep 2 with 480 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 12:07 - Sep 2 by noggin
Everyone who has international origins should start hanging/painting the flags of those nations, around towns. That way the flags would be a true representation of British culture. It would be great to see streets adorned with Irish, Italian, Nigerian, Thai, Iraqi and British flags.
Will you be going out hanging up Union jacks in Norway?
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:58 - Sep 2 by leitrimblue
Are there many of these flags up around Ipswich?
Would be great move for the club to give away a few hundred Town flags that could be attached to lampposts in the town to replace um if so
A few here and there, I was in Clacton at the weekend and loads there!
But at least the ones in Clacton seemed good quality flags that had been hung neatly, the one's I've seen in Ipswich have been £3 ones from JJB Sports just stuck somewhere where they wrap round what they are on
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:58 - Sep 2 by leitrimblue
Are there many of these flags up around Ipswich?
Would be great move for the club to give away a few hundred Town flags that could be attached to lampposts in the town to replace um if so
If you include attempts at painting a Red Cross on mini roundabouts there is an example on Hawthorn Drive, Chantry. Also, for some obscure reason, the back of keep left signs on the roundabout at the junction with Sheperd Drive and the the nearby pedestrian crossing,
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 11:20 - Sep 2 by giant_stow
Unlike you, I realised last week that I do indeed live in a London bubble on this. I was away down south and saw so many flags and painted roundabouts. Then I get home and see two acquaintances separately forwarding Ruppert Lowe social media messages... one them a good person with a warm heart and with many mixed-race grandchildren... it was all a bit shocking tbh.
What’s going on is starting to seem very sinister. And also gathering unstoppable momentum, but I hope I’m wrong about that.
There’s an increase in the used of extreme language and extreme ideology that’s being normalised by some politicians, a big chunk of the media and of course online. You’ve got very powerful people like Musk openly calling for mass deportation of British nationals if they are brown and endorsing the racist Great Replacement theory. We’ve got politicians like that rancid Gt Yarmouth MP Lowe, who’s also calling for mass deportations of immigrants (even if nationalised). Prior to this we had idiots like Braverman debasing herself by saying she, and people like her, shouldn’t see themselves as English despite being born here. Before that we had Tory ministers dehumanising refugees by calling them an invasion and like rats.
The rhetoric has been getting more and more extreme, from the dehumanisation then through to the calls for mass deportations of brown British people now (it’s always on ethnicity grounds; skin colour matters still but white immigrants suffer too).
There’s always been racism, from people throwing bananas onto football pitches in the 70s/80s, common usage of racial slurs related to the Pakistani communities in 80s, Islamophobia exacerbated by 9/11 and jihadi terrorist attacks here and around the world, antisemitism including the recent rise post Oct 7th attacks and Israeli response, etc. But this phase of concentrated and wide-spread events seems something new. Not least because there hasn’t been a robust condemnation from the powers who be (except in rare instances where prosecutions have been brought).
There’s a duty on everyone to call out and stand up to racism. Most people probably aren’t racist when it comes to someone they know, but a significant number are letting themselves be whipped up into a state by bad faith actors. The semi-organised far right groups are having a field day. It’s up to everyone to be more discerning about who they listen to and where they get their information from. To challenge conspiracies and not follow them. As DJR has highlighted, the majority of people think illegal immigrants make up the majority of migrants. That’s crazy and provably wrong, but shows how susceptible people are to disinformation.
TLDR: be nice to people. Treat people how you like to be treated yourself. To borrow a phrase, love thy neighbour, not attack them because of the colour of their skin or where they or their parents or even grandparents were born. Don’t believe hateful fascists or let them turn you into one.
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 13:56 - Sep 2 by Swansea_Blue
What’s going on is starting to seem very sinister. And also gathering unstoppable momentum, but I hope I’m wrong about that.
There’s an increase in the used of extreme language and extreme ideology that’s being normalised by some politicians, a big chunk of the media and of course online. You’ve got very powerful people like Musk openly calling for mass deportation of British nationals if they are brown and endorsing the racist Great Replacement theory. We’ve got politicians like that rancid Gt Yarmouth MP Lowe, who’s also calling for mass deportations of immigrants (even if nationalised). Prior to this we had idiots like Braverman debasing herself by saying she, and people like her, shouldn’t see themselves as English despite being born here. Before that we had Tory ministers dehumanising refugees by calling them an invasion and like rats.
The rhetoric has been getting more and more extreme, from the dehumanisation then through to the calls for mass deportations of brown British people now (it’s always on ethnicity grounds; skin colour matters still but white immigrants suffer too).
There’s always been racism, from people throwing bananas onto football pitches in the 70s/80s, common usage of racial slurs related to the Pakistani communities in 80s, Islamophobia exacerbated by 9/11 and jihadi terrorist attacks here and around the world, antisemitism including the recent rise post Oct 7th attacks and Israeli response, etc. But this phase of concentrated and wide-spread events seems something new. Not least because there hasn’t been a robust condemnation from the powers who be (except in rare instances where prosecutions have been brought).
There’s a duty on everyone to call out and stand up to racism. Most people probably aren’t racist when it comes to someone they know, but a significant number are letting themselves be whipped up into a state by bad faith actors. The semi-organised far right groups are having a field day. It’s up to everyone to be more discerning about who they listen to and where they get their information from. To challenge conspiracies and not follow them. As DJR has highlighted, the majority of people think illegal immigrants make up the majority of migrants. That’s crazy and provably wrong, but shows how susceptible people are to disinformation.
TLDR: be nice to people. Treat people how you like to be treated yourself. To borrow a phrase, love thy neighbour, not attack them because of the colour of their skin or where they or their parents or even grandparents were born. Don’t believe hateful fascists or let them turn you into one.
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John Crace was good on this today.
"Forget George Orwell’s “Two Minutes Hate”. That was strictly for amateurs. If you haven’t got in a full half hour of loathing for foreigners then you clearly don’t love your country very much. And this hate is no longer confined to the far right. Even some bien-pensants of the centre left are joining in. Everyone now has licence to hate. The fightback against foreigners starts here.
It’s a time of very public displays. Come draped in flags and colour in roundabouts with the cross of St George. Anything to make foreigners feel unwelcome. If they don’t like it, then they know what they can do.
Even the language has changed. Immigrants are no longer immigrants. They are sex offenders in waiting. With Nige’s prodding we are encouraged to think of them as invaders. A scourge on a country that for far too long has been treated as a soft touch.
A moment in time for true Brits to rise up and come to the defence of Lucy Connolly. A true red, white and blue patriot who had the courage to call for hotels to be set on fire while the asylum seekers were still inside. Who in their right mind wouldn’t want to do that? It’s only the last vestiges of woke holding you back. Never mind that Connolly admitted her guilt and was sentenced by a judge, she was the champion of free speech and the victim of a two-tier judicial system. Her release from prison after serving 40% of her 31-month sentence before being freed on licence was the righting of a miscarriage of justice.
An age of a new morality. When Richard Tice, a newly self-appointed archbishop of Canterbury, declares himself to be better versed in the Christian scriptures than the archbishop of York. Because what God wants is for all Brits to be able to live in a country where 600,000 foreigners have been deported. Enough is enough. Our suffering is far greater than theirs. God has always been a Brit at heart. He’s one of us."
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 15:36 - Sep 2 with 134 views
This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 12:05 - Sep 2 by Zx1988
I thought similar.
A counter-movement along the lines of 'Raise ALL The Colours' would be great, with the current flags being replaced by ones which represent the multi-cultural makeup of Great Britain.
Sadly it would probably only result in 'Protect The Colours' and well-meaning people being beaten up by cretins.
Why do the current flags need to be replaced? Can't the other flags fly alongside? You seem to be saying get rid of the British flags and just have foreign flags?
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This 'Raise the Colours' movement... on 15:26 - Sep 2 by DJR
John Crace was good on this today.
"Forget George Orwell’s “Two Minutes Hate”. That was strictly for amateurs. If you haven’t got in a full half hour of loathing for foreigners then you clearly don’t love your country very much. And this hate is no longer confined to the far right. Even some bien-pensants of the centre left are joining in. Everyone now has licence to hate. The fightback against foreigners starts here.
It’s a time of very public displays. Come draped in flags and colour in roundabouts with the cross of St George. Anything to make foreigners feel unwelcome. If they don’t like it, then they know what they can do.
Even the language has changed. Immigrants are no longer immigrants. They are sex offenders in waiting. With Nige’s prodding we are encouraged to think of them as invaders. A scourge on a country that for far too long has been treated as a soft touch.
A moment in time for true Brits to rise up and come to the defence of Lucy Connolly. A true red, white and blue patriot who had the courage to call for hotels to be set on fire while the asylum seekers were still inside. Who in their right mind wouldn’t want to do that? It’s only the last vestiges of woke holding you back. Never mind that Connolly admitted her guilt and was sentenced by a judge, she was the champion of free speech and the victim of a two-tier judicial system. Her release from prison after serving 40% of her 31-month sentence before being freed on licence was the righting of a miscarriage of justice.
An age of a new morality. When Richard Tice, a newly self-appointed archbishop of Canterbury, declares himself to be better versed in the Christian scriptures than the archbishop of York. Because what God wants is for all Brits to be able to live in a country where 600,000 foreigners have been deported. Enough is enough. Our suffering is far greater than theirs. God has always been a Brit at heart. He’s one of us."
Interesting extract from Politics Live in today's Guardian which seems to me to amount to a complete abdication of responsibility on the part of the government.
"If any Labour ministers are inclined to agree with John Crace’s column (headlined “Flags as symbols of prejudice, not pride – and a distinct air of menace. Welcome to England 2025”), they are not saying so in public. Yesterday, Keir Starmer strongly endorsed flying the flag. And, in an interview this morning, Yvette Cooper, the home secretary, went further. She told Times Radio:
"I’m going to confess I have not just the St George’s flag, I have St George’s bunting. I have also union jack bunting which is currently still hanging up in my garden shed. I have union jack flags. We have Yorkshire rose flags and bunting as well. I actually even have some Yorkshire Tea bunting but that’s probably going a bit far for your question as well.
So I do I think flags are really important. It’s what brings us together. I do think that people should be coming together around our flags and using the flags to come together and not being used for division."
Asked if people should be putting up flags on motorway gantries, Cooper replied:
"Oh, put them up anywhere. I would put them up anywhere."