| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase 14:57 - Dec 5 with 6908 views | Chris_ITFC |
The wry smile on his face after airing this said it all.
Presser by PhilTWTD 5 Dec 14:51Can't let this become a narrative. Players read stuff, there are players who have made three, four five appearances. If you're an ITFC player, need to get behind them. If there's a narrative other than that, that's detrimental to the players. We'll pick the right team for the next six games in December and team will pick up good results.
Edit - The wry smile:
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:00 - Dec 5 with 4516 views | J2BLUE |
He has a right to be. Everyone knows the negativity is damaging. Some choose to go all in anyway. |  |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:04 - Dec 5 with 4428 views | Mullet |
In fairness McKenna needs to take responsibility for that. It’s all right blaming fans, but if you’re going to produce a week as sh1t as he has in the context of this season, the loudest morons are going to make themselves heard. |  |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:05 - Dec 5 with 4380 views | Benters |
But how does he know they will pick up good results ?
December fixtures look pretty tricky to me. [Post edited 5 Dec 15:11]
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:11 - Dec 5 with 4269 views | SitfcB |
And he has every right to be.
Our fanbase is very annoying.
Blackburn on Tuesday for example, sarcastically cheering Walton kicking it long after the last short one sailed quite close to the wind, people should be f’king used to our style of play now. |  |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:13 - Dec 5 with 4182 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:11 - Dec 5 by SitfcB |
And he has every right to be.
Our fanbase is very annoying.
Blackburn on Tuesday for example, sarcastically cheering Walton kicking it long after the last short one sailed quite close to the wind, people should be f’king used to our style of play now. |
Yep. Annoyed the fk out of me too.
Once upon a time it was left backs we set upon as a fan base, now it seems our keeper will never be good enough, no matter how many we try. |  |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:16 - Dec 5 with 4115 views | itfcsuth |
He’s not a stupid man, he’s a very very smart man, he’ll be aware of grumblings, it’s the emotion and part of being a football fan - be naive to think it doesn’t come with the territory.
Fans emotions are reactionary to what they see in front of them.
Have to take the rough with the smooth in football, nobody complained about the endless merited plaudits over the best 2 years or so, everyone happy to receive the pat on the back when things are going well, and in that same manner you have to be able to shoulder a bit of criticism if performance levels are below standards previously set.
As always though, there is a line, and any personal insults and attacks on players/staff cross that lines, as they would in any other walk of life. |  | | |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:18 - Dec 5 with 4059 views | SomethingBlue |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:04 - Dec 5 by Mullet |
In fairness McKenna needs to take responsibility for that. It’s all right blaming fans, but if you’re going to produce a week as sh1t as he has in the context of this season, the loudest morons are going to make themselves heard. |
Not sure he's blamed fans, and not sure it helps to insinuate that either because that breeds exactly what we are trying to avoid here. He's making what I think is a fair point that negativity breeds negativity, and that disliking squad rotation is one thing but pinning it on individuals during the game (McAteer anyone ... ) is quite another. [Post edited 5 Dec 15:19]
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:18 - Dec 5 with 4051 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:11 - Dec 5 by SitfcB |
And he has every right to be.
Our fanbase is very annoying.
Blackburn on Tuesday for example, sarcastically cheering Walton kicking it long after the last short one sailed quite close to the wind, people should be f’king used to our style of play now. |
The away crowd does surprise me right now. I could understand it with a home crowd, but these are (stereotypically, across football) the hardened, loyalist types; not usually the sarcastic, cynical type, who might be quicker to get on the players’ backs. | |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:21 - Dec 5 with 3966 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:18 - Dec 5 by Chris_ITFC |
The away crowd does surprise me right now. I could understand it with a home crowd, but these are (stereotypically, across football) the hardened, loyalist types; not usually the sarcastic, cynical type, who might be quicker to get on the players’ backs. |
I wasn't at Blackburn so can't comment, but on the whole I think our away support has been superb. McKenna said as much himself in a recent interview. Judging off the back of the most recent game is probably as unfair as judging his team off it too, in fairness. |  | | |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:23 - Dec 5 with 3923 views | SomethingBlue |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:21 - Dec 5 by _CliveBaker_ |
I wasn't at Blackburn so can't comment, but on the whole I think our away support has been superb. McKenna said as much himself in a recent interview. Judging off the back of the most recent game is probably as unfair as judging his team off it too, in fairness. |
Oxford was really bad to be fair, well before the game unravelled – I was quite taken aback to be honest.
QPR a few weeks previously was, by contrast, excellent. [Post edited 5 Dec 15:25]
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:24 - Dec 5 with 3880 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:18 - Dec 5 by Chris_ITFC |
The away crowd does surprise me right now. I could understand it with a home crowd, but these are (stereotypically, across football) the hardened, loyalist types; not usually the sarcastic, cynical type, who might be quicker to get on the players’ backs. |
Being fair, the Blackburn game went all the way down to general sale. There were a good number of not regular away fans. | |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:24 - Dec 5 with 3892 views | WickhamsLeftBoot |
There’s pockets of entitlement and arrogance in our fan base which was always going to happen given our very quick rise and improvement after years of dross. |  | | |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:24 - Dec 5 with 3878 views | MattinLondon |
It’s the same with every club - in all honesty, I think we’re one of the most patient fan bases. |  | | |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:32 - Dec 5 with 3746 views | JammyDodgerrr |
The fact he has to say it at all is properly annoying. Can't believe how entitled a decent amount of the fanbase has become after basically two years of success. Ridiculous. |  |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:37 - Dec 5 with 3632 views | Mullet |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:18 - Dec 5 by SomethingBlue |
Not sure he's blamed fans, and not sure it helps to insinuate that either because that breeds exactly what we are trying to avoid here. He's making what I think is a fair point that negativity breeds negativity, and that disliking squad rotation is one thing but pinning it on individuals during the game (McAteer anyone ... ) is quite another. [Post edited 5 Dec 15:19]
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I think if we are going off insinuations then he is equally making one here, but I was referring to the OP.
Ultimately, if he keeps doing things badly, getting poor performances from better players he’s got to carry the can. Hes taken us from a well drilled machine, to an increasingly clunky underperforming mess of late.
If you’re not going to blame him for that or acknowledge it, then it really doesn’t work to credit him for anything either. This is the first time he’s really had to prove himself without being an underdog. It’s up to him to overcome that. | |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:38 - Dec 5 with 3619 views | Herbivore |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:24 - Dec 5 by MattinLondon |
It’s the same with every club - in all honesty, I think we’re one of the most patient fan bases. |
I think we're not prone to quickly turning and becoming nasty but we are pretty quiet and prone to lots of grumbling and frustration, which can be just as unhelpful. |  |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:39 - Dec 5 with 3598 views | StokieBlue |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:32 - Dec 5 by JammyDodgerrr |
The fact he has to say it at all is properly annoying. Can't believe how entitled a decent amount of the fanbase has become after basically two years of success. Ridiculous. |
It's not a surprise though, we have people on here making stuff up daily and then stating it as fact just so they can stick the boot in.
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:41 - Dec 5 with 3569 views | oldbeardy |
I wish he'd just say fans have opinions and are free to air them, it's part of football and always has been. Because that's the case isn't it. And for the last few games it's fair to say performances have attracted some criticism and rightly so. | | | |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:41 - Dec 5 with 3560 views | Swansea_Blue |
That’s just the ‘fanbase’. What about the fans? |  |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:41 - Dec 5 with 3549 views | Benters |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:32 - Dec 5 by JammyDodgerrr |
The fact he has to say it at all is properly annoying. Can't believe how entitled a decent amount of the fanbase has become after basically two years of success. Ridiculous. |
That’s because we got to the dreamland of the Premiership and they want to see the big clubs again. | |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:45 - Dec 5 with 3484 views | baxterbasics |
There is an element of "what do you expect?" when performances haven't been great. But then there's a difference between having a general moan and armchair experts trying to tell McKenna how to do his job. |  |
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:46 - Dec 5 with 3463 views | jasondozzell |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:32 - Dec 5 by JammyDodgerrr |
The fact he has to say it at all is properly annoying. Can't believe how entitled a decent amount of the fanbase has become after basically two years of success. Ridiculous. |
Yep. Ever since success returned we seem to have attracted a load of horrible entitled fans. Not supporters.
Football crowds will vent frustration. But some of the stuff aimed at Walton, when we play out from the back (have these morons never watched a McKenna team?) or at McAteer and Hirst is utterly disgraceful.
There's more performative outrage on social media than there was when we were watching Mick at the end!
The 'my head is on Mars' after watching us draw to Wrexham/Watford/Blackburn etc comments. No it isn't. You've just watched a game in the championship. Presumably some of these lot think every season in the championship is 23/24 like.
Get behind the team.
I don't blame KM for being bloody irritated by it. |  | | |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:47 - Dec 5 with 3441 views | SomethingBlue |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:37 - Dec 5 by Mullet |
I think if we are going off insinuations then he is equally making one here, but I was referring to the OP.
Ultimately, if he keeps doing things badly, getting poor performances from better players he’s got to carry the can. Hes taken us from a well drilled machine, to an increasingly clunky underperforming mess of late.
If you’re not going to blame him for that or acknowledge it, then it really doesn’t work to credit him for anything either. This is the first time he’s really had to prove himself without being an underdog. It’s up to him to overcome that. |
Let's not create a straw man here because I'm hardly beaming at the last few games. Anyhow – he's said in the same answer that he will carry the can, which is good because if things go wrong he certainly should. The only point is not to call McAteer, five or six games in, every name under the sun for 70 minutes because you (not *you*) don't agree with swapping him in. [Post edited 5 Dec 15:48]
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| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:49 - Dec 5 with 3396 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Kieran’s properly p*ssed with the fanbase on 15:04 - Dec 5 by Mullet |
In fairness McKenna needs to take responsibility for that. It’s all right blaming fans, but if you’re going to produce a week as sh1t as he has in the context of this season, the loudest morons are going to make themselves heard. |
In fairness, and for balance, there have been fans on the back of players almost before they kicked a ball. Some real prejudice. Much as the season started. That has consequences, and will create a knock on effect. So which came first, the chicken or the egg.
We still also have some on here who claim what is written / said about players doesn't get to them. It does. Morsy alluded to this before. And yet the usual suspected continue. [Post edited 5 Dec 15:56]
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