| Game off (n/t) 11:10 - Jan 4 with 7376 views | BABLUE |
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:36 - Jan 4 with 965 views | DanTheMan |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:32 - Jan 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I can't believe people have up-arrowed this nonsense. The ref makes the call. And it is bloody cold out there, Pompey is on the coast, other matches have been called off, none of it is a surprise. |
I don't think people are suggesting they've paid off the ref or anything, but that they've not put much of an effort into even trying to make sure the pitch is ready.
Given there is a game being played literally two miles away... well it's not hard to make that stretch. |  |
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:36 - Jan 4 with 964 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:16 - Jan 4 by Herbivore |
I mean, they're just taking the piss here aren't they? An amateur team can get their pitch playable just down the road but Pompey couldn't manage to get the game on following a couple of cold nights? I'm sure even their fans will be talking about how they've played a blinder here. |
I don't want to lean in to heavily to a conspiracy, but it does seem a bit strange that a non-league club can manage but a Championship club can't. Are the higher leagues more cautious about player injuries or just playability in general? Is there something unique about the Pompey pitch that has made it more susceptible? There's a lot we don't know.
It does seem rather convenient though! |  |
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:37 - Jan 4 with 959 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:32 - Jan 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I can't believe people have up-arrowed this nonsense. The ref makes the call. And it is bloody cold out there, Pompey is on the coast, other matches have been called off, none of it is a surprise. |
There is literally a non league game on across the street FFS.
Are you saying pomey tried to keep it on giving their squad issues? |  |
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:38 - Jan 4 with 926 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:32 - Jan 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I can't believe people have up-arrowed this nonsense. The ref makes the call. And it is bloody cold out there, Pompey is on the coast, other matches have been called off, none of it is a surprise. |
You are correct the ref makes the call
He looks at the pitch presented to him. How they pitch was cared for is where there is potential for games to be played
What covers used. Simple frost covers or heated pitch covers
On since Friday when? Am. Pm? When did they come off? Last night. 5am this morning?
Did pompy utilise led lighting kits to assist witb the thawing...
If they used heated pitched covers, took them off at 10am this morning and it froze within an hour the fair enough.n |  |
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:40 - Jan 4 with 928 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:36 - Jan 4 by Swansea_Blue |
I don't want to lean in to heavily to a conspiracy, but it does seem a bit strange that a non-league club can manage but a Championship club can't. Are the higher leagues more cautious about player injuries or just playability in general? Is there something unique about the Pompey pitch that has made it more susceptible? There's a lot we don't know.
It does seem rather convenient though! |
Blatantly obvious what happened. It’s not even cold and they haven’t had a game off for 13 years due to a frozen pitch. It’s very normal to drop a few degrees below zero in January overnight and wasn’t a lunchtime kick off. Needs calling out really not that it matters at this point, hopefully we smash them. | |
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:43 - Jan 4 with 891 views | crouchendyachtclub |
Feels like there's a lot of recency bias going on here. It's not that long ago that frozen pitches were more common. Also not having clubs being told what to do with their money and forced to prioritise under soil heating etc, most clubs don't make any money, would only take a couple to go out of business having been forced to spend on infrastructure and the exact same people calling for it would be criticising the football league for allowing it...
Having been on the south coast for the similar weather period over Christmas I can believe that the pitch will still be frozen, actuals of -5 and a feels like a few below that will really get into the ground. They will absolutely have gamed it a bit and not tried as hard to get it on as they could given injuries but I would expect nothing less. |  | | |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:43 - Jan 4 with 888 views | King_ding_a_lin_g |
| Game off (n/t) on 11:41 - Jan 4 by Bluebell |
Thank you TWTD. We had only travelled 10 miles of our 96 mile journey when I checked here.
Now back home! |
I travelled 195 of my 226 mile journey! |  | | |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:46 - Jan 4 with 841 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:43 - Jan 4 by crouchendyachtclub |
Feels like there's a lot of recency bias going on here. It's not that long ago that frozen pitches were more common. Also not having clubs being told what to do with their money and forced to prioritise under soil heating etc, most clubs don't make any money, would only take a couple to go out of business having been forced to spend on infrastructure and the exact same people calling for it would be criticising the football league for allowing it...
Having been on the south coast for the similar weather period over Christmas I can believe that the pitch will still be frozen, actuals of -5 and a feels like a few below that will really get into the ground. They will absolutely have gamed it a bit and not tried as hard to get it on as they could given injuries but I would expect nothing less. |
Has it dropped to -2 overnight in the last 14 years before Portsmouth home game? It’s embarrassing to call it off, very clearly they done what they could to get that outcome. I hope we had an official present, 4 hours before kick off with it rising to 3/4 degrees at KO. Feels like it should be impossible to call off for a mild frost. This notion you’d think is confirmed by the fact a non league game under 2 miles away is on. [Post edited 4 Jan 12:47]
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:49 - Jan 4 with 826 views | StokieBlue |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:43 - Jan 4 by crouchendyachtclub |
Feels like there's a lot of recency bias going on here. It's not that long ago that frozen pitches were more common. Also not having clubs being told what to do with their money and forced to prioritise under soil heating etc, most clubs don't make any money, would only take a couple to go out of business having been forced to spend on infrastructure and the exact same people calling for it would be criticising the football league for allowing it...
Having been on the south coast for the similar weather period over Christmas I can believe that the pitch will still be frozen, actuals of -5 and a feels like a few below that will really get into the ground. They will absolutely have gamed it a bit and not tried as hard to get it on as they could given injuries but I would expect nothing less. |
Pompey fans saying it was an open secret they weren't using heaters under the pitch cover and were not trying at all to get the game on.
Why would they with 12 players injured?
It's embarrassing when a non-league game is on a few miles away.
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:49 - Jan 4 with 823 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:43 - Jan 4 by crouchendyachtclub |
Feels like there's a lot of recency bias going on here. It's not that long ago that frozen pitches were more common. Also not having clubs being told what to do with their money and forced to prioritise under soil heating etc, most clubs don't make any money, would only take a couple to go out of business having been forced to spend on infrastructure and the exact same people calling for it would be criticising the football league for allowing it...
Having been on the south coast for the similar weather period over Christmas I can believe that the pitch will still be frozen, actuals of -5 and a feels like a few below that will really get into the ground. They will absolutely have gamed it a bit and not tried as hard to get it on as they could given injuries but I would expect nothing less. |
" ...but I would expect nothing less"
And that, for me, encapsulates yet another problem with the modern game to rank alongside keeper "injuries" to allow for in game coaching, players feiging head injuries, "simulation" and "he has a right to go down there".
Corinthian it ain't. |  |
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:51 - Jan 4 with 809 views | Sarge |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:32 - Jan 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I can't believe people have up-arrowed this nonsense. The ref makes the call. And it is bloody cold out there, Pompey is on the coast, other matches have been called off, none of it is a surprise. |
You can’t possibly be that naïve | | | |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:52 - Jan 4 with 786 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:51 - Jan 4 by Sarge |
You can’t possibly be that naïve |
Are you new around here? | |
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:52 - Jan 4 with 785 views | Freddy |
| Game off (n/t) on 11:18 - Jan 4 by Herbivore |
Absolute joke, you're telling me that after one night of it dipping below freezing - and with loads of warning that those temperatures were coming - and they couldn't get the pitch playable? We've now got 2 weeks without a league game and will have a midweek trip to Pompey to squeeze in, really not good for us but happens to be ideal for them with their poor form and injury list. They should be fined. |
Theres around 18 games off in the Champ/L1/L2 its not just us affected ? | | | |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:54 - Jan 4 with 760 views | pointofblue |
Pretty obvious Portsmouth did everything they could to get the game postponed. In fairness, if we were in their position, we probably wouldn't be trying very hard either. | |
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| Game off (n/t) on 12:58 - Jan 4 with 733 views | Herbivore |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:52 - Jan 4 by Freddy |
Theres around 18 games off in the Champ/L1/L2 its not just us affected ? |
There's two games off in the Championship, including ours, the other being in Yorkshire which has been worse hit by the weather. There's non-league games going ahead close to Pompey, who haven't had a home game called off for 13 years. Of course this could all be innocent but it seems pretty unlikely. They've played a blinder. |  |
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| Game off (n/t) on 13:01 - Jan 4 with 695 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:32 - Jan 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I can't believe people have up-arrowed this nonsense. The ref makes the call. And it is bloody cold out there, Pompey is on the coast, other matches have been called off, none of it is a surprise. |
I don't think you have to be a major cynic or conspiracy theorist to see what's gone on here, backed up by noise online about deliberate sabotage from Pompey fans and other Portsmouth based non league teams having playable pitches. |  | | |
| Game off (n/t) on 13:06 - Jan 4 with 661 views | Churchman |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:43 - Jan 4 by King_ding_a_lin_g |
I travelled 195 of my 226 mile journey! |
Well, you’ve saved 22 miles which is half a gallon, so it’s not all bad news!
Apologies, couldn’t resist. That’s not good - Portsmouth should be paying your costs!!! |  | | |
| Game off (n/t) on 13:06 - Jan 4 with 656 views | Ryorry |
| Game off (n/t) on 11:22 - Jan 4 by WestSussexBlue |
It’s been -4 here. No chance that pitch was suitable for a game. |
The tweet was deleted by the author, but basically said that all other park games in the Portsmouth area were going ahead without problems & that the temperature in the area is now +4C. Sorry you couldn't see or didn't like it Crouchend! :)
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| Game off (n/t) on 13:10 - Jan 4 with 633 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:36 - Jan 4 by DanTheMan |
I don't think people are suggesting they've paid off the ref or anything, but that they've not put much of an effort into even trying to make sure the pitch is ready.
Given there is a game being played literally two miles away... well it's not hard to make that stretch. |
Yeah I should've read the full thread first. Does look dodgy, especially with a nearby non-league game still happening.
For clarity I wasn't suggesting some think the ref's been paid off - more that he decides based on the weather. But yes, I can see that the club can drag their feet a bit in terms of protecting the pitch if they'd rather the game was off. |  |
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| Game off (n/t) on 13:14 - Jan 4 with 590 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:51 - Jan 4 by Sarge |
You can’t possibly be that naïve |
I was initially but having read the thread further I see that I was wrong. | |
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| Game off (n/t) on 13:15 - Jan 4 with 589 views | Benters |
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| Game off (n/t) on 13:17 - Jan 4 with 569 views | crouchendyachtclub |
| Game off (n/t) on 12:46 - Jan 4 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Has it dropped to -2 overnight in the last 14 years before Portsmouth home game? It’s embarrassing to call it off, very clearly they done what they could to get that outcome. I hope we had an official present, 4 hours before kick off with it rising to 3/4 degrees at KO. Feels like it should be impossible to call off for a mild frost. This notion you’d think is confirmed by the fact a non league game under 2 miles away is on. [Post edited 4 Jan 12:47]
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-7 overnight with wind chill unlikely to get above 0/1 all day. Probably didn't yesterday either.
Wind chill doesn't allow the ground to get colder than the actual temperature but it will prevent it warming back up. Like I said it's gamed but it's also more than a mild frost and as has been stated elsewhere the non league pitch is artificial. | | | |
| Game off (n/t) on 13:17 - Jan 4 with 567 views | brogansnose |
| Game off (n/t) on 13:14 - Jan 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I was initially but having read the thread further I see that I was wrong. |
Fair play to you Dolly. |  | | |
| Game off (n/t) on 13:18 - Jan 4 with 553 views | Rsj13 |
| Game off (n/t) on 11:47 - Jan 4 by RIPbobby |
But on the same token what would rather have a great team playing on a poorly funded infrastructure or a sh!t team playing on wonderous facilities. Actually ask the club financiers and I'm certain of the answer. Just like Marcus Evans went for broke and it failed. It didn't with our us backers. |
Does it have to be either / or, though?
I'm not saying every club needs top of the range infrastructure, but rather "has the club taken reasonable steps, commensurately to it's peers, to ensure that fixtures can be held?". If local clubs - especially those in lower leagues - are able to play their fixtures, but Pompey isn't, I'd want to know what's different about the conditions at Fratton Park that made getting the pitch suitable so much harder.
The cost of this infrastructure isn't going to be an entire squad. At Championship level it may not even be the cost of one player. And should last a long time, and at this level should just be seen as a cost of doing business. But if not being able to hold a game doesn't cost you anything (or you may in fact benefit) why on earth would clubs prioritise it. That's why the change is needed. I think it would be surprising how much money would be available if it might suddenly cost the club points. | | | |
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