| This is just one example of why he has to go 16:32 - Mar 28 with 7013 views | jasondozzell |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 21:16 - Mar 28 with 1184 views | tcblue |
Ashton: I'm sure the Reform leopards wouldn't eat MY face |  | | |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 21:44 - Mar 28 with 1151 views | urbanpenguin |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 20:05 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD |
I don't know but I assume they're owned by Matchday Images, who work as official photographers, so there wouldn't be an issue there. |
Again, I would be surprised if Matchday Images/Richard Calver does not keep his copyright. I would expect he licences the images to ITFC, as it's industry standard, and usually that would proclude third party usage outside of meditation or promotion of the licencee etc. Obviously I'm not privvy to contracts, but certainly image examples on his website from various clubs he retains the copyright.
Anyway, this is a digression. But it is a thing that bothers me as my husband is a photographer, I studied it at Masters level, and there are very strict rights around photographic images that many people just don't follow.
Regardless. Reform obviously asked nobody for permissions and they think it's hilarious. And that's exactly what that would do to many more people on a greater level, with greater consequences, if they get any power. [Post edited 28 Mar 22:37]
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:32 - Mar 28 with 1094 views | TheMoralMajority |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 21:15 - Mar 28 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I would assume that you have some fairly strong opinions on the whole situation yourself but probably feel in a situation where you can't particularly articulate them as you need to remain dispassionate from it and simply report on the facts surrounding it. |
I would LOVE a Phil Ham opinion piece right about now. For obvious reasons, we will never see one, but a man can dream. |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:36 - Mar 28 with 1076 views | Dubtractor |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:32 - Mar 28 by TheMoralMajority |
I would LOVE a Phil Ham opinion piece right about now. For obvious reasons, we will never see one, but a man can dream. |
He should set up a subscription/VIP service for premium members, 'Phil Ham:UNCUT!'
I would def sign up. |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:38 - Mar 28 with 1062 views | urbanpenguin |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:36 - Mar 28 by Dubtractor |
He should set up a subscription/VIP service for premium members, 'Phil Ham:UNCUT!'
I would def sign up. |
Uncut ham?
Unsliced, surely? [Post edited 28 Mar 22:39]
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:38 - Mar 28 with 1059 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I hope all those fans on here and on X who were too thick to realise the implications of this feel good. All the fans who told us to get over it, it’s not a big deal are happy.
Our club has been snatched by the far right. In front of our eyes and you will still get Sshtok apologists telling you to chill out. I’m disgusted by all this. |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:40 - Mar 28 with 1053 views | bluelagos |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:32 - Mar 28 by TheMoralMajority |
I would LOVE a Phil Ham opinion piece right about now. For obvious reasons, we will never see one, but a man can dream. |
I find it a little frustrating Phil's reluctance to be a bit more vocal, but then I recall him getting banned by Lambert. It is the guys income/job.
Shows what an utter cnit Lambert was to do that. |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:41 - Mar 28 with 1037 views | TheMoralMajority |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:38 - Mar 28 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I hope all those fans on here and on X who were too thick to realise the implications of this feel good. All the fans who told us to get over it, it’s not a big deal are happy.
Our club has been snatched by the far right. In front of our eyes and you will still get Sshtok apologists telling you to chill out. I’m disgusted by all this. |
I'm not sure digging out other fans is too helpful. The ire should be directed in one direction only, imho. With enough weight the pendulum will swing.
Just my opinion, mind. | |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:46 - Mar 28 with 1008 views | MrTown |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:38 - Mar 28 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I hope all those fans on here and on X who were too thick to realise the implications of this feel good. All the fans who told us to get over it, it’s not a big deal are happy.
Our club has been snatched by the far right. In front of our eyes and you will still get Sshtok apologists telling you to chill out. I’m disgusted by all this. |
Chill out. |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:48 - Mar 28 with 1005 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:41 - Mar 28 by TheMoralMajority |
I'm not sure digging out other fans is too helpful. The ire should be directed in one direction only, imho. With enough weight the pendulum will swing.
Just my opinion, mind. |
Oh the ire should be directed at Ashton, but from the whole fanbase. Instead you got people saying “he’s done so much good” “where would we be without him”
No. He’s brought the club in to disrepute. I can’t look at social media without a post related to reform and Ipswich. The club aren’t even tweeting from the main account because every reply is the squad photoshopped on to Nazis.
People don’t seem to care for accountability anymore and it makes me sick. | |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:54 - Mar 28 with 983 views | redrickstuhaart |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:48 - Mar 28 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Oh the ire should be directed at Ashton, but from the whole fanbase. Instead you got people saying “he’s done so much good” “where would we be without him”
No. He’s brought the club in to disrepute. I can’t look at social media without a post related to reform and Ipswich. The club aren’t even tweeting from the main account because every reply is the squad photoshopped on to Nazis.
People don’t seem to care for accountability anymore and it makes me sick. |
Both are true. By denying the good, you give people the excuse to ignore the valid criticisims on the basis of bias. | |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:57 - Mar 28 with 965 views | TheMoralMajority |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:48 - Mar 28 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Oh the ire should be directed at Ashton, but from the whole fanbase. Instead you got people saying “he’s done so much good” “where would we be without him”
No. He’s brought the club in to disrepute. I can’t look at social media without a post related to reform and Ipswich. The club aren’t even tweeting from the main account because every reply is the squad photoshopped on to Nazis.
People don’t seem to care for accountability anymore and it makes me sick. |
If it makes you feel better, in this horrible car crash of a situation, Mark "doing the right thing when no one is looking" Ashton may not care for accountability, but there have been plenty here who do seem to, and whilst they may not shout the loudest, they are definitely here.
In this divisive situation we are currently living through, I've even seen some long time adversaries coming together on the same side of this. | |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:06 - Mar 28 with 912 views | CrayonKing |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:32 - Mar 28 by TheMoralMajority |
I would LOVE a Phil Ham opinion piece right about now. For obvious reasons, we will never see one, but a man can dream. |
I hope we get to read the memoirs one day. I bet there's some fascinating stories to tell! |  | | |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:06 - Mar 28 with 903 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:46 - Mar 28 by MrTown |
Chill out. |
How does that boot taste.
Let me know. | |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:11 - Mar 28 with 883 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:57 - Mar 28 by TheMoralMajority |
If it makes you feel better, in this horrible car crash of a situation, Mark "doing the right thing when no one is looking" Ashton may not care for accountability, but there have been plenty here who do seem to, and whilst they may not shout the loudest, they are definitely here.
In this divisive situation we are currently living through, I've even seen some long time adversaries coming together on the same side of this. |
I’ve certainly taken some positivity in the amount of people speaking up about it. But it’s all just hit me today how angry I am about this. I’ve had a day off my phone and checked it late this evening and seen the edited photos among other things.
This isn’t going away and that just makes me so angry. | |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:12 - Mar 28 with 889 views | PhilTWTD |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 21:44 - Mar 28 by urbanpenguin |
Again, I would be surprised if Matchday Images/Richard Calver does not keep his copyright. I would expect he licences the images to ITFC, as it's industry standard, and usually that would proclude third party usage outside of meditation or promotion of the licencee etc. Obviously I'm not privvy to contracts, but certainly image examples on his website from various clubs he retains the copyright.
Anyway, this is a digression. But it is a thing that bothers me as my husband is a photographer, I studied it at Masters level, and there are very strict rights around photographic images that many people just don't follow.
Regardless. Reform obviously asked nobody for permissions and they think it's hilarious. And that's exactly what that would do to many more people on a greater level, with greater consequences, if they get any power. [Post edited 28 Mar 22:37]
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Entirely agree re Reform's misuse and the way photos are often used without permissions. Frustrating to see photos we've paid for used on social media!
We actually use Matchday Images as well and I think there is a distinction between photos taken specifically for the club, which are theirs to do what they want with, and their freelance images which they retain the rights to. |  | | |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:12 - Mar 28 with 883 views | TheMoralMajority |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:11 - Mar 28 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I’ve certainly taken some positivity in the amount of people speaking up about it. But it’s all just hit me today how angry I am about this. I’ve had a day off my phone and checked it late this evening and seen the edited photos among other things.
This isn’t going away and that just makes me so angry. |
I'm with you there. I've come out of a 10 year hiatus on this board because of it.
I'm sure the culture wars will send me off again for another 10 years, but in the meantime, what has happened at the top of our club over this past week has been nothing short of a disgrace | |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:30 - Mar 28 with 866 views | PhilTWTD |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:32 - Mar 28 by TheMoralMajority |
I would LOVE a Phil Ham opinion piece right about now. For obvious reasons, we will never see one, but a man can dream. |
My thoughts are along the lines of most people's, I think. Totally unnecessary self-inflicted mess, should never have got involved with Reform in any shape or form, should never have allowed their social media team in.
And then they made the situation even worse with the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence.
Apology clearly hasn't drawn a line under the matter as would have been the intention as it was vague and avoided addressing or answering any of the remaining questions. Among them, following James Pearce's message suggesting a meeting between MA and NF at some neutral venue, how the visit came about, whether there was subsequently an invite to the club. Why it was felt necessary to gift shirts, why a signed one was evidently requested.
There's clearly been a breakdown in trust between the larger part of the fanbase, players, sponsors, staff and the wider community and the club's senior management and it's difficult to see how it will be restored. | | | |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:35 - Mar 28 with 781 views | reusersfreekicks |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 16:33 - Mar 28 by jasondozzell |
Only just seen your post Frimley, sorry.
This is exactly why the club's reputation is in tatters until he's gone. |
Agreed. Get him out of the club. Charlatan |  | | |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:42 - Mar 28 with 733 views | TheMoralMajority |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:30 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD |
My thoughts are along the lines of most people's, I think. Totally unnecessary self-inflicted mess, should never have got involved with Reform in any shape or form, should never have allowed their social media team in.
And then they made the situation even worse with the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence.
Apology clearly hasn't drawn a line under the matter as would have been the intention as it was vague and avoided addressing or answering any of the remaining questions. Among them, following James Pearce's message suggesting a meeting between MA and NF at some neutral venue, how the visit came about, whether there was subsequently an invite to the club. Why it was felt necessary to gift shirts, why a signed one was evidently requested.
There's clearly been a breakdown in trust between the larger part of the fanbase, players, sponsors, staff and the wider community and the club's senior management and it's difficult to see how it will be restored. |
Mr Ham, you have made my weekend. Thank you! The prospect of an hour's less sleep now seems insignificant.
I honestly think his position is untenable now which is such a shame and so thoroughly avoidable. 100% it is the lies, gaslighting, cover-up and ultimately non-apology that has pushed me over the edge. I do believe the situation, whilst massively ill-advised, was rescuable earlier in the week. It's just been a series of inexplicable actions. [Post edited 28 Mar 23:45]
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:55 - Mar 28 with 671 views | N2_Blue |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:30 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD |
My thoughts are along the lines of most people's, I think. Totally unnecessary self-inflicted mess, should never have got involved with Reform in any shape or form, should never have allowed their social media team in.
And then they made the situation even worse with the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence.
Apology clearly hasn't drawn a line under the matter as would have been the intention as it was vague and avoided addressing or answering any of the remaining questions. Among them, following James Pearce's message suggesting a meeting between MA and NF at some neutral venue, how the visit came about, whether there was subsequently an invite to the club. Why it was felt necessary to gift shirts, why a signed one was evidently requested.
There's clearly been a breakdown in trust between the larger part of the fanbase, players, sponsors, staff and the wider community and the club's senior management and it's difficult to see how it will be restored. |
Very well put Phil. Plenty of posters who are having a pop at everyone who they think are overeacting and say that we should move on should read this and take a moment to understand its not a case of just moving on.
Some kind of action needs to be taken, its unacceotabel that has happened and was allowed to happen.
Kieran's next press conference is going to be very interesting...I bet he's dreading it, I feel for him. |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 00:00 - Mar 29 with 642 views | TheMoralMajority |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:55 - Mar 28 by N2_Blue |
Very well put Phil. Plenty of posters who are having a pop at everyone who they think are overeacting and say that we should move on should read this and take a moment to understand its not a case of just moving on.
Some kind of action needs to be taken, its unacceotabel that has happened and was allowed to happen.
Kieran's next press conference is going to be very interesting...I bet he's dreading it, I feel for him. |
That's a tricky one. Whilst, 100% I want the local press to be holding the club to account, I hope they concentrate on the game with KMac. What is going on above him is not his battle.
I'm sure the nationals will have other ideas. | |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 00:04 - Mar 29 with 609 views | N2_Blue |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 00:00 - Mar 29 by TheMoralMajority |
That's a tricky one. Whilst, 100% I want the local press to be holding the club to account, I hope they concentrate on the game with KMac. What is going on above him is not his battle.
I'm sure the nationals will have other ideas. |
oh i completely agree. I hope it isn't brought up as much as i want to hear what he thinks about it, but it clearly will be.
Probably best thing for him is to say he'll only take questions regarding the game and the squad but there is going to be more eyes and ears than ever on this particular press conference and he may find it difficult not to let his emotions come out, especially if there are cracks in his relationship with Ashton. | |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 02:33 - Mar 29 with 527 views | Ryorry |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:30 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD |
My thoughts are along the lines of most people's, I think. Totally unnecessary self-inflicted mess, should never have got involved with Reform in any shape or form, should never have allowed their social media team in.
And then they made the situation even worse with the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence.
Apology clearly hasn't drawn a line under the matter as would have been the intention as it was vague and avoided addressing or answering any of the remaining questions. Among them, following James Pearce's message suggesting a meeting between MA and NF at some neutral venue, how the visit came about, whether there was subsequently an invite to the club. Why it was felt necessary to gift shirts, why a signed one was evidently requested.
There's clearly been a breakdown in trust between the larger part of the fanbase, players, sponsors, staff and the wider community and the club's senior management and it's difficult to see how it will be restored. |
"the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence."
It was MA's comment "I also understand that there are a number of mistruths out there on what's actually happened this week" that really got me - when all he actually needed to do was state the facts of what happened, then there wouldn't have been any 'mistruths'.
It's not just the self-interest, the lies, the deviousness, the lack of integrity and foresight in thinking through the consequences to all concerned with the good name of ITFC of his actions - it's his sheer stupidity and lack of spine in not taking obvious, sensible measures. That alone makes him unfit to remain as CEO or Chair at this or any other decent club or organisation in my book. [Post edited 29 Mar 2:35]
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 08:04 - Mar 29 with 419 views | Swansea_Blue |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 22:41 - Mar 28 by TheMoralMajority |
I'm not sure digging out other fans is too helpful. The ire should be directed in one direction only, imho. With enough weight the pendulum will swing.
Just my opinion, mind. |
Although you’re missing out the racist charlatan who used our club by only getting angry in only one direction. It’s Farage who’s used us and has been stirring on their social media. There needs to be some contempt thrown his way too imo.
Totally agree on fans sticking together though. Farage thrives on the division. Let’s not let him. |  |
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