| With one left to play we have 7th best away record 21:13 - Apr 25 with 2485 views | Illinoisblue |
And if we win Tuesday we’d end up with the 4th best record. So nowhere near as bad as it’s made out to be. |  |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:27 - Apr 25 with 2139 views | J2BLUE |
Nothing is as bad as it's made out to be. It's just a minority of loud voices echoing off each other.
Somehow Town are second when we have no fight, no bottle, no desire, several positions with players who aren't very good etc etc. |  |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:31 - Apr 25 with 2105 views | SomethingBlue |
Yep. In fact a bit like the season overall. We are in an incredible position and some of the whinging is utterly mindblowing. |  |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:39 - Apr 25 with 2025 views | Big_Jase |
That feels about right, we have been a very dependable (not exciting) team for the most of the season.
The reaction to today has been insane. We drew against an in form team and looked on the whole very solid.
Anyone would think we are going away to Pep’s Barcelona team on Tuesday the way they are talking up Southampton.
Southampton have played just as many games as us recently and are also going to be tired. I fancy us to win, and win by more than one goal. |  |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:42 - Apr 25 with 2003 views | SitfcB |
A real shame it’s not a few points better, we’d be sitting here promoted now. [Post edited 25 Apr 22:21]
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:46 - Apr 25 with 1960 views | pointofblue |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:31 - Apr 25 by SomethingBlue |
Yep. In fact a bit like the season overall. We are in an incredible position and some of the whinging is utterly mindblowing. |
It's an odd season. We're second but, at times, it feels like a pinch me, how the hell are we second? The results seem better than performances for quite a few games, which is certainly the right way round.
Yeah, I was one of the snivelling idiots who got edgy when we started looked laboured two seasons ago in the run in. Maybe in two years time I'll be saying a similar thing! But I do agree with those who are far more rational than me otherwise who say we're just not entertaining watch. There was a freedom to 2023/24. This year seems like hard work. More pressure, maybe? More expectation? Was it unreasonable to expect a Coventry-like season? Maybe. As others said, perhaps if we had a reliable striker we would have done. | |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:46 - Apr 25 with 1955 views | Illinoisblue |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:39 - Apr 25 by Big_Jase |
That feels about right, we have been a very dependable (not exciting) team for the most of the season.
The reaction to today has been insane. We drew against an in form team and looked on the whole very solid.
Anyone would think we are going away to Pep’s Barcelona team on Tuesday the way they are talking up Southampton.
Southampton have played just as many games as us recently and are also going to be tired. I fancy us to win, and win by more than one goal. |
Pragmatic FC this season and it’s worked very well thus far even if it hasn’t had the thrills and spills - the 3-2s, the 4-3s, the 90+ winners - of 23-24 season. Failure now is not an option. Let’s get it done, take the money, keep KM, keep growing the club. | |
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| Was looking at the FotMob stats for the season so far, and Town are rated… on 21:48 - Apr 25 with 1929 views | unstableblue |
… across many measure:
Most goals per match, 3rd behind Coventry and Saints
Least goals conceded, top with Cov and Boro
Average possession, 3rd behind Boro and Saints
Most clean sheets, 3rd behind Millwall and Cov
XG, second behind Cov
Shots on target per match, third behind Cov and Saints
Big chances in total, third behind Saints and Cov |  |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:51 - Apr 25 with 1897 views | FrimleyBlue |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:27 - Apr 25 by J2BLUE |
Nothing is as bad as it's made out to be. It's just a minority of loud voices echoing off each other.
Somehow Town are second when we have no fight, no bottle, no desire, several positions with players who aren't very good etc etc. |
Its possible to be successful and have players that aren't as good as others. That doesnt mean overall the team is crp tho. |  |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:54 - Apr 25 with 1878 views | jas0999 |
Not great though is it? 7th. Far too many poor results away. | | | |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:58 - Apr 25 with 1847 views | Mullet |
But we aren’t aiming to be 4th in the league and we’ve put in some real stinkers on the road. Thats the problem with stats vs the eye test.
Losing at say Boro is not a bad result, getting hunped at Leicester now they’ve gone down as well as losing to Oxford and Pompey etc are all things which could have stopped us being champions. |  |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:58 - Apr 25 with 1851 views | SomethingBlue |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:46 - Apr 25 by pointofblue |
It's an odd season. We're second but, at times, it feels like a pinch me, how the hell are we second? The results seem better than performances for quite a few games, which is certainly the right way round.
Yeah, I was one of the snivelling idiots who got edgy when we started looked laboured two seasons ago in the run in. Maybe in two years time I'll be saying a similar thing! But I do agree with those who are far more rational than me otherwise who say we're just not entertaining watch. There was a freedom to 2023/24. This year seems like hard work. More pressure, maybe? More expectation? Was it unreasonable to expect a Coventry-like season? Maybe. As others said, perhaps if we had a reliable striker we would have done. |
As I said to someone earlier today, when the highlights of this season are put together there will be countless dazzling goals & moments that cast most of the last 20 years in the shade. I think people have lost sight of things a little bit, honestly. Which is not to deny that, when you aren't a freewheeling upwardly mobile team of adorable upstarts as we were two years ago, this division is an almighty slog! [Post edited 25 Apr 21:59]
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:58 - Apr 25 with 1846 views | Dubtractor |
I think part of the issue is that we are a pretty stodgy watch away from home, so even when we've been picking up decent results recently, it's not always great viewing.
Whereas at home we're much better to watch whilst also getting results.
If we end up second though, it's all good. |  |
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| Was looking at the FotMob stats for the season so far, and Town are rated… on 22:19 - Apr 25 with 1713 views | Radlett_blue |
| Was looking at the FotMob stats for the season so far, and Town are rated… on 21:48 - Apr 25 by unstableblue |
… across many measure:
Most goals per match, 3rd behind Coventry and Saints
Least goals conceded, top with Cov and Boro
Average possession, 3rd behind Boro and Saints
Most clean sheets, 3rd behind Millwall and Cov
XG, second behind Cov
Shots on target per match, third behind Cov and Saints
Big chances in total, third behind Saints and Cov |
If we've had an issue this season, it's that our strikers aren't good enough. Hirst is OK, Azon works hard but is a very poor finisher & Akpom has been so bad he's been near invisible. Unfortunately, good strikers are in short supply and therefore very expensive. |  |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 22:20 - Apr 25 with 1706 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:58 - Apr 25 by Dubtractor |
I think part of the issue is that we are a pretty stodgy watch away from home, so even when we've been picking up decent results recently, it's not always great viewing.
Whereas at home we're much better to watch whilst also getting results.
If we end up second though, it's all good. |
As I see it, this is all part of a more pragmatic approach to our play. Aim to control the games better, especially away from home - be solid at the back. Wear the opposition down, and aim to kill them off towards the end. Sure, this makes for a less exciting spectacle at times, but today there were some excellent passages of play - when we saw the opportunity to go for it. There are many games where we’ve restricted the opposition to very few clear cut chances. 2 today, both dealt with by Walton.
It’s still work in progress, and sometimes it’s not worked out. It’s certainly improved as the season has progressed. | | | |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 22:25 - Apr 25 with 1661 views | BluePG |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:58 - Apr 25 by SomethingBlue |
As I said to someone earlier today, when the highlights of this season are put together there will be countless dazzling goals & moments that cast most of the last 20 years in the shade. I think people have lost sight of things a little bit, honestly. Which is not to deny that, when you aren't a freewheeling upwardly mobile team of adorable upstarts as we were two years ago, this division is an almighty slog! [Post edited 25 Apr 21:59]
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Great post. An “almighty slog” is a great way to describe it. Absolutely unrelenting league. Thank Heavens that we were knocked out of cups comparatively early on. | |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 22:57 - Apr 25 with 1555 views | Vaughan8 |
If we lose 3-0 we'll be 9th best....! its all very close on the away points to be fair other than Millwall who are way ahead.
The weird stat I think for a team in second is the fact we've only won 2 games from letting in the first goal.
this bit isn't weird but Flip side, I don't think we've lost any when we've scored first?
I'll admit its been a weird season. We don't always look good but bar the first few games, we look efficient. | | | |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 22:57 - Apr 25 with 1541 views | bluefunk |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:58 - Apr 25 by SomethingBlue |
As I said to someone earlier today, when the highlights of this season are put together there will be countless dazzling goals & moments that cast most of the last 20 years in the shade. I think people have lost sight of things a little bit, honestly. Which is not to deny that, when you aren't a freewheeling upwardly mobile team of adorable upstarts as we were two years ago, this division is an almighty slog! [Post edited 25 Apr 21:59]
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I think many forget the functional aspects of the 23/24 promotion. The away wins at, say Blackburn or Bristol City, when if the opposition had taken their chances we’d have lost, those two home draws in the run in against Boro and Watford. They’ve been airbrushed from memory in the euphoria of what that team achieved. |  | | |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 23:03 - Apr 25 with 1490 views | Illinoisblue |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 22:20 - Apr 25 by SuffolkPunchFC |
As I see it, this is all part of a more pragmatic approach to our play. Aim to control the games better, especially away from home - be solid at the back. Wear the opposition down, and aim to kill them off towards the end. Sure, this makes for a less exciting spectacle at times, but today there were some excellent passages of play - when we saw the opportunity to go for it. There are many games where we’ve restricted the opposition to very few clear cut chances. 2 today, both dealt with by Walton.
It’s still work in progress, and sometimes it’s not worked out. It’s certainly improved as the season has progressed. |
Exactly what’s happened but our lack of a clinical/ruthless half decent striker has meant the season has been more of a struggle than it perhaps should have been. We have controlled so many games but haven’t always taken really good chances… which then magnifies any mistake at the back. The overriding feeling we’ve had to work really hard to score but that hasn’t always been true for the opposition. None of it will matter that much if we go up. Just file it away as an odd season as we (hopefully) settle into our new status as a yoyo club | |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 08:16 - Apr 26 with 1110 views | Blue_Heath |
Big IF that but strange how our away form was better than our home form in the prem yet this season we've struggled. | |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 08:20 - Apr 26 with 1106 views | Dubtractor |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 23:03 - Apr 25 by Illinoisblue |
Exactly what’s happened but our lack of a clinical/ruthless half decent striker has meant the season has been more of a struggle than it perhaps should have been. We have controlled so many games but haven’t always taken really good chances… which then magnifies any mistake at the back. The overriding feeling we’ve had to work really hard to score but that hasn’t always been true for the opposition. None of it will matter that much if we go up. Just file it away as an odd season as we (hopefully) settle into our new status as a yoyo club |
"Exactly what’s happened but our lack of a clinical/ruthless half decent striker has meant the season has been more of a struggle than it perhaps should have been."
So much this.
Once again yesterday, Azon missed a couple of serviceable chances, not even hitting the target. We see stats all the time about how him and Hirst have missed a lot of big chances - and if we take more of those we put games to bed, or take control of them to play on our terms. | |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 08:45 - Apr 26 with 1058 views | BloomBlue |
Its a strange one. A lot of fans referencing yesterday was our version of Hull 23/24.
But look at that Hull game, three times we took the lead, and 3 times they equalised. We got 1 point from that game same as y'day.
3-3 a great game for the neutral, but take the blue spectacles off and we didn't play great in that game. We needed a couple of worldy goals from Hutchinson. Defence had too many gaps. But the vast majority of fans were buzzing after the game, rightly so, as we had gained another point from a game towards promotion, ignoring the overall performance.
Now let's imagine that same game was replicated yesterday. Would most fans be buzzing or moaning and lamenting allowing WBA to equaliser 3 times, would they be moaning about relying on worldies from Hutch? I'm going for the latter.
Certainly the expectations from many fans has changed from that promotion chasing level to now. |  | | |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 08:55 - Apr 26 with 1023 views | MVBlue |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 23:03 - Apr 25 by Illinoisblue |
Exactly what’s happened but our lack of a clinical/ruthless half decent striker has meant the season has been more of a struggle than it perhaps should have been. We have controlled so many games but haven’t always taken really good chances… which then magnifies any mistake at the back. The overriding feeling we’ve had to work really hard to score but that hasn’t always been true for the opposition. None of it will matter that much if we go up. Just file it away as an odd season as we (hopefully) settle into our new status as a yoyo club |
I think most people do see this, and its my assessment too. We've had decent build up play, we've had goals from all round the positions. But a more clinical striker by just +5 goals and we get the slightly better results. I bet even McKenna knows this. But we just have the job to do now, get the results needed. Get it done. McKenna has worked with what we have and done well. |  |
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| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 15:21 - Apr 26 with 848 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 21:27 - Apr 25 by J2BLUE |
Nothing is as bad as it's made out to be. It's just a minority of loud voices echoing off each other.
Somehow Town are second when we have no fight, no bottle, no desire, several positions with players who aren't very good etc etc. |
The away criticism has been pretty fair, I suspect it would take you a while to find a team that’s been automatically promoted previously that has lost 7 games away. Let’s hope we get over the line but if we do it on a low as 83 points we can all thank our lucky stars. |  |
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| Was looking at the FotMob stats for the season so far, and Town are rated… on 15:48 - Apr 26 with 794 views | ZapatasMoustache |
| Was looking at the FotMob stats for the season so far, and Town are rated… on 21:48 - Apr 25 by unstableblue |
… across many measure:
Most goals per match, 3rd behind Coventry and Saints
Least goals conceded, top with Cov and Boro
Average possession, 3rd behind Boro and Saints
Most clean sheets, 3rd behind Millwall and Cov
XG, second behind Cov
Shots on target per match, third behind Cov and Saints
Big chances in total, third behind Saints and Cov |
This is a great illustration of the season we’ve had. We’ve been very good at everything, but excellent only at preventing goals. I think this slight imbalance has led to a good deal of frustration as the perception is we struggle to score. We do sometimes, but not often. I think another large slice of frustration comes from the fact that of the goals we concede, many have been the same goal over and over again: an efficient cross put in after a swift attack following a turnover in which we struggled to regain shape, crowned with a smart finish in the box. Something we ourselves very, very rarely do this year. |  | | |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 16:52 - Apr 26 with 671 views | J2BLUE |
| With one left to play we have 7th best away record on 15:21 - Apr 26 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The away criticism has been pretty fair, I suspect it would take you a while to find a team that’s been automatically promoted previously that has lost 7 games away. Let’s hope we get over the line but if we do it on a low as 83 points we can all thank our lucky stars. |
Well...we lost 5 away in 23/24. Leicester, who won the title, lost 6...
Sheff U the year before finished second, losing 7 away.
Year before that Fulham and Bournemouth lost 5 away.
So it's not exactly unusual. | |
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