| More from Spygate on 16:52 - Jun 1 with 2401 views | berkstractorboy |
So nothing more then on further spying attempts. I thought that may come out if they had access to mobiles and WA chats. Hard to believe they didn't do it on more than these 3 occasions. |  | |  |
| More from Spygate on 16:56 - Jun 1 with 2349 views | Dennyx4 |
| More from Spygate on 16:52 - Jun 1 by berkstractorboy |
So nothing more then on further spying attempts. I thought that may come out if they had access to mobiles and WA chats. Hard to believe they didn't do it on more than these 3 occasions. |
I wonder whether that particular intern only did it three times? |  | | |
| More from Spygate on 17:00 - Jun 1 with 2310 views | berkstractorboy |
| More from Spygate on 16:56 - Jun 1 by Dennyx4 |
I wonder whether that particular intern only did it three times? |
You would think phone records from the manager, all the coaching and analysts have not been requested under freedom of information based on what has been found to see if there is further evidence. EFL may not have the time and think there is a line drawn under it but you may think there could be other legal challenges to come on this one. | | | |
| More from Spygate on 17:03 - Jun 1 with 2271 views | Dubtractor |
| More from Spygate on 17:00 - Jun 1 by berkstractorboy |
You would think phone records from the manager, all the coaching and analysts have not been requested under freedom of information based on what has been found to see if there is further evidence. EFL may not have the time and think there is a line drawn under it but you may think there could be other legal challenges to come on this one. |
Pretty certain that freedom of information doesn't apply to private companies. |  |
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| More from Spygate on 17:11 - Jun 1 with 2212 views | FlittonBlue |
And a totally classless response from Southampton - they just dont get it, do they? Blaming everybody and everyone apart from themselves....
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| More from Spygate on 17:11 - Jun 1 with 2208 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
Reading the Saints forum, I can't believe so many fans are still playing the victim!
The club has released another statement, which still seems to be 'sorry but not sorry', and implying they weren't give a fair hearing, even though everything they were accused of is admitted.
This from X also suggests more to come - I'm inclined to think there is further potential sanctions incoming from the FA, and they're desperately trying to reduce this.
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| More from Spygate on 17:20 - Jun 1 with 2117 views | bsw72 |
| More from Spygate on 17:11 - Jun 1 by FlittonBlue |
And a totally classless response from Southampton - they just dont get it, do they? Blaming everybody and everyone apart from themselves....
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May be classless but is also a very legally worded response to acknowledge the release today without admitting any further liability.
Club are being very wary of admitting and apologising for things which could open themselves up for legal issues internally - I am wondering whether the interns may take legal action for the positions they were put into etc. |  | | |
| More from Spygate on 17:20 - Jun 1 with 2113 views | berkstractorboy |
| More from Spygate on 17:03 - Jun 1 by Dubtractor |
Pretty certain that freedom of information doesn't apply to private companies. |
Maybe wasn't 100% sure and as no a criminal case doubt a warrant can be requested to confiscate other electronic items such as mobiles and laptops. I wonder how they got these other messages unless the intern cam forward and gave them the WA chat details | | | |
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| More from Spygate on 17:43 - Jun 1 with 1976 views | SitfcB |
Very naughty from Eastleigh. Suspect we won’t train there again, I wonder if we paid them to use their facilities? [Post edited 1 Jun 17:51]
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| More from Spygate on 17:49 - Jun 1 with 1901 views | berkstractorboy |
| More from Spygate on 17:43 - Jun 1 by SitfcB |
Very naughty from Eastleigh. Suspect we won’t train there again, I wonder if we paid them to use their facilities? [Post edited 1 Jun 17:51]
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But it's not cheating, they gained no sporting advantage knowing what was very likely to be our starting XI. And of course TE didn't change his team at all as he already knew how we would play given KMc is so consistent playing the same XI on a weeknight after a weekend game. | | | |
| More from Spygate on 17:57 - Jun 1 with 1829 views | NthQldITFC |
'This other analyst asked to be provided with an Eastleigh kit and a legend - an explanation of his supposed role at the National League club - and made the trip to observe the training sessions'
A 'legend' - ha-ha-ha - they've been reading too much le Carre - actually you can't read too much le Carre. |  |
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| More from Spygate on 18:11 - Jun 1 with 1733 views | Kievthegreat |
| More from Spygate on 17:49 - Jun 1 by berkstractorboy |
But it's not cheating, they gained no sporting advantage knowing what was very likely to be our starting XI. And of course TE didn't change his team at all as he already knew how we would play given KMc is so consistent playing the same XI on a weeknight after a weekend game. |
It is absolutely cheating though. EFL Rule 127:
"Without prejudice to the requirements of Regulation 3.4 (that each Club shall behave towards each other Club with the utmost good faith), no Club shall directly or indirectly observe (or attempt to observe) another Club’s training session in the period of 72 hours prior to any match scheduled to be played between those respective Clubs."
It's black and white, they definitely observed (both directly with a member of staff and indirectly via CCTV supplied by Eastleigh). That means they broke rule 127 and cheated. This is an accepted fact and acknowledged by Southampton. |  | | |
| More from Spygate on 18:12 - Jun 1 with 1724 views | SitfcB |
| More from Spygate on 18:11 - Jun 1 by Kievthegreat |
It is absolutely cheating though. EFL Rule 127:
"Without prejudice to the requirements of Regulation 3.4 (that each Club shall behave towards each other Club with the utmost good faith), no Club shall directly or indirectly observe (or attempt to observe) another Club’s training session in the period of 72 hours prior to any match scheduled to be played between those respective Clubs."
It's black and white, they definitely observed (both directly with a member of staff and indirectly via CCTV supplied by Eastleigh). That means they broke rule 127 and cheated. This is an accepted fact and acknowledged by Southampton. |
Your sarcasm detector must be switched off. | |
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| More from Spygate on 18:26 - Jun 1 with 1620 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| More from Spygate on 17:11 - Jun 1 by FlittonBlue |
And a totally classless response from Southampton - they just dont get it, do they? Blaming everybody and everyone apart from themselves....
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Honestly, the way they've handled themselves this whole time has been pretty despicable.
Just a matter of time until Eckhart gets banned, you'd imagine. Some of the stuff that's come out today has been pretty calculated. |  |
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| More from Spygate on 18:28 - Jun 1 with 1611 views | Kievthegreat |
| More from Spygate on 18:12 - Jun 1 by SitfcB |
Your sarcasm detector must be switched off. |
I'll go and get it recalibrated.  | | | |
| More from Spygate on 18:33 - Jun 1 with 1568 views | SheffordBlue |
| More from Spygate on 17:20 - Jun 1 by berkstractorboy |
Maybe wasn't 100% sure and as no a criminal case doubt a warrant can be requested to confiscate other electronic items such as mobiles and laptops. I wonder how they got these other messages unless the intern cam forward and gave them the WA chat details |
The Commission requested the following:
"38. Having served the charges, on 10 May 2026, the EFL made a further request for specific
disclosure from the Club asking for (e.g.) the mobile devices of all members of the Club’s
analysis team and Mr Eckert for forensic analysis; all relevant emails, messages and
telephone calls between members of the analysis team; and relevant bank/credit card
statements for the Junior Analyst Intern and the Club."
Although from this it's not clear whether they were handed over:
"On 12 May 2026, SPB responded on behalf of the Club, apologising for inaccuracies on
the response of 8 May; and confirming that (i) the visit to the Middlesbrough training
ground was carried out at the request of Mr Eckert, (ii) prior to deleting them, The Junior
Analyst Intern transmitted three videos to Analyst 1 at the Club, and (iii) Analyst 1 had
explained to Mr Eckert via WhatsApp what he discerned from the videos. The videos and
some WhatsApp messages were attached. The letter also disclosed that, in the course
of the investigations, the Oxford and Ipswich Incidents had come to light." | |
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| More from Spygate on 18:43 - Jun 1 with 1519 views | berkstractorboy |
| More from Spygate on 18:26 - Jun 1 by JammyDodgerrr |
Honestly, the way they've handled themselves this whole time has been pretty despicable.
Just a matter of time until Eckhart gets banned, you'd imagine. Some of the stuff that's come out today has been pretty calculated. |
And surely now have dragged Eastleigh into this whole mess as an accomplice to the breaking of the rules! | | | |
| More from Spygate on 18:45 - Jun 1 with 1511 views | pointofblue |
| More from Spygate on 17:11 - Jun 1 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Reading the Saints forum, I can't believe so many fans are still playing the victim!
The club has released another statement, which still seems to be 'sorry but not sorry', and implying they weren't give a fair hearing, even though everything they were accused of is admitted.
This from X also suggests more to come - I'm inclined to think there is further potential sanctions incoming from the FA, and they're desperately trying to reduce this.
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I went on the Saints forum expecting fury at those at the club, as there'a no defence for their actions. Yet apparently there is. Baffling. | |
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| More from Spygate on 18:53 - Jun 1 with 1475 views | Churchman |
This is disgusting.
I’d relegate them to Div 2 for this and fine them the equivalent of their final year of parachute money while slapping a transfer embargo.
They cheated, bullied and forced staff into actions they weren’t happy about, tried to cover it up and obviously lied about the number of times they tried this.
It didn’t affect our season. But it might have done. People who think they gained no advantage? Why did they do it then? Why did matey boy hide in the golf club sht house? They knew, he knew. They didn’t care.
They have no remorse - they are just playing victim. |  | | |
| More from Spygate on 18:55 - Jun 1 with 1461 views | SheffordBlue |
| More from Spygate on 18:45 - Jun 1 by pointofblue |
I went on the Saints forum expecting fury at those at the club, as there'a no defence for their actions. Yet apparently there is. Baffling. |
I'd like to think it would have been different on here if it had been us but I'm not convinced it would have been. Cognitive biases and motivated reasoning can do amazing things! | |
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| More from Spygate on 18:56 - Jun 1 with 1459 views | IndependentlyBlue |
| More from Spygate on 17:11 - Jun 1 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Reading the Saints forum, I can't believe so many fans are still playing the victim!
The club has released another statement, which still seems to be 'sorry but not sorry', and implying they weren't give a fair hearing, even though everything they were accused of is admitted.
This from X also suggests more to come - I'm inclined to think there is further potential sanctions incoming from the FA, and they're desperately trying to reduce this.
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Had a look at their forum. Blimey, playing the victim hardly covers it. Saying punishment is disproportionate
They cheated in the lead up to the play off match, got caught, admitted it (eventually), got thrown out of competition. Seems fair enough
They then got found out that they’d done the same thing before two other matches, admitted it (but said the cheating didn’t help them), got docked two points for next season as punishment. Again, seems fair enough.
Lots of attempts at deflection too
Everybody does it
What about the time wasting and cheating in every match?
It’s a stupid rule anyway
What about Man City and Chelsea?
…and on and on.
Bit pathetic really. Ho hum |  |
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| More from Spygate on 19:03 - Jun 1 with 1426 views | southnorfolkblue |
| More from Spygate on 17:43 - Jun 1 by SitfcB |
Very naughty from Eastleigh. Suspect we won’t train there again, I wonder if we paid them to use their facilities? [Post edited 1 Jun 17:51]
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I thought that Eckhart tried to throw them under the bus by trying to suggest that they had sent the video off their own bat when the evidence from the analysts was rather different | |
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| More from Spygate on 19:31 - Jun 1 with 1293 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| More from Spygate on 17:49 - Jun 1 by berkstractorboy |
But it's not cheating, they gained no sporting advantage knowing what was very likely to be our starting XI. And of course TE didn't change his team at all as he already knew how we would play given KMc is so consistent playing the same XI on a weeknight after a weekend game. |
Whether they gained a sporting advantage or not is neither here nor there. They were attempting to, and that's cheating. |  |
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| More from Spygate on 19:34 - Jun 1 with 1287 views | bluelagos |
| More from Spygate on 17:11 - Jun 1 by FlittonBlue |
And a totally classless response from Southampton - they just dont get it, do they? Blaming everybody and everyone apart from themselves....
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Classless indeed.
"What is harder to accept is that similar scrutiny does not appear to have been applied to the composition of the disciplinary panel itself, given the apparent historic and indirect connections of two panel members to Middlesbrough. While those connections do not by themselves prove bias, they plainly raise legitimate questions about consistency, perception and the standards of independence expected in proceedings of this magnitude." |  |
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| More from Spygate on 19:53 - Jun 1 with 1216 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| More from Spygate on 18:56 - Jun 1 by IndependentlyBlue |
Had a look at their forum. Blimey, playing the victim hardly covers it. Saying punishment is disproportionate
They cheated in the lead up to the play off match, got caught, admitted it (eventually), got thrown out of competition. Seems fair enough
They then got found out that they’d done the same thing before two other matches, admitted it (but said the cheating didn’t help them), got docked two points for next season as punishment. Again, seems fair enough.
Lots of attempts at deflection too
Everybody does it
What about the time wasting and cheating in every match?
It’s a stupid rule anyway
What about Man City and Chelsea?
…and on and on.
Bit pathetic really. Ho hum |
I visited their forum a few times whilst this unfolded. It’s car crash TV - as you say, so many on that forum are using anything to justify what the club did, and how they are hard done by. There’s the odd voice of sanity, but very few.
It’s also now 247 pages with 1.2 million views in 3 weeks!!! | | | |
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