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John Duncan must be loving all this 12:29 - Jan 27 with 2176 viewsBryanPlug

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John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:37 - Jan 27 with 1921 viewspatrickswell

3 top 10 finishes in the second tier and the third highest win percentage of any Town manager at a time when Town were going up against the young and raw likes of Ian Wright, Teddy Sheringham and Brian Deane.

I only saw occasional matches in that period and wiser people than me will rightly scoff at any notion of a golden age, but he’s miles ahead of 4 of Evans’s picks.

It’s Jackie Milburn who’s risen up the list. Terrible statistics but at least had the excuse that he was managing an aging team in the top flight.
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:38 - Jan 27 with 1914 viewsBelsteadCav

Duncan’s side would hammer this lot.

This really is the worst Ipswich town side in history

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John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:38 - Jan 27 with 1912 viewschicoazul

Remember when we used to laugh at Duncan era players like Harbey David Hill and Louie Donowa? And how they would always crop up on worst player ever lists?
All of them would be a huge improvement now.

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John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:40 - Jan 27 with 1897 viewsTieDyedIn95

John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:38 - Jan 27 by BelsteadCav

Duncan’s side would hammer this lot.

This really is the worst Ipswich town side in history


Easily.

Remember when Joey Barton pointed that out and people lost their minds. They clearly didn't watch the likes of Nolan try and play in the Championship....

Football League First Division / Premier League Champions (1): 1961—62 - Runners-up (2): 1980—81, 1981—82 Football League Second Division / EFL Championship Champions (3): 1960—61, 1967—68, 1991—92 - Play-off winners (1): 1999—2000 Football League Third Division / EFL League One Champions (2): 1953—54, 1956—57 - Southern League Champions (1): 1936—37 FA Cup Winners (1): 1977—78 - Texaco Cup Winners (1): 1972—73 UEFA Cup / UEFA Europa League Winners (1): 1980—81
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:43 - Jan 27 with 1874 viewsFtnfwest

John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:38 - Jan 27 by chicoazul

Remember when we used to laugh at Duncan era players like Harbey David Hill and Louie Donowa? And how they would always crop up on worst player ever lists?
All of them would be a huge improvement now.


can't remember the year but remember an away game at filbert st with kiwomya and donowa up front during the duncan era, which i think we won 2-0 or 2-1. Was probably one of the few times the latter had a good game for us but the two together were lightning fast and it was a really good performance
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:46 - Jan 27 with 1852 viewsFtnfwest

John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:38 - Jan 27 by BelsteadCav

Duncan’s side would hammer this lot.

This really is the worst Ipswich town side in history


Sunderland were pretty poor and yet at lest the majority of them looked up for it, especially Embleton i think it was who came on at half time. As others have said i watched it without any care for the end result. I wanted to see some improvement, and whilst they managed the game fairly well after the sending off, with a couple of exceptions, there wasn't much desire to get back into it.
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 13:33 - Jan 27 with 1753 viewsWoolfenthen

John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:37 - Jan 27 by patrickswell

3 top 10 finishes in the second tier and the third highest win percentage of any Town manager at a time when Town were going up against the young and raw likes of Ian Wright, Teddy Sheringham and Brian Deane.

I only saw occasional matches in that period and wiser people than me will rightly scoff at any notion of a golden age, but he’s miles ahead of 4 of Evans’s picks.

It’s Jackie Milburn who’s risen up the list. Terrible statistics but at least had the excuse that he was managing an aging team in the top flight.
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Jackie Milburn created the youth team set up, so for me gets quite a bit of leeway
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 13:39 - Jan 27 with 1735 viewslowhouseblue

yes increasingly you look back on the duncan years and you think - well it wasn't that bad really. it was certainly more fun.

And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show

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John Duncan must be loving all this on 13:56 - Jan 27 with 1696 viewsKropotkin123

Win Ratio Table
Mick O'Brien - 64.1 - Southern League champions 1936—37
Alf Ramsey - 47.7 - Division Three (South) champions 1956—57, Division Two champions 1960—61, Division One champions 1961—62
George Burley - 45.5 - Division One play-off winners 1999-2000
John Duncan - 45.3
Bobby Robson - 44.6 - Texaco Cup winners 1972—73, FA Cup winners 1977—78, UEFA Cup winners 1980—81
Joe Royle - 42.9
Bill McGarry - 40.8 - Division Two champions 1967—68
Scott Duncan - 40.6 - Division Three (South) champions 1953—54
Jim Magilton - 37.8
Bobby Ferguson - 37.6
Mick McCarthy - 37.6
Roy Keane - 34.6
Paul Jewell - 34.1
John Lyall - 33.3 - Division Two champions 1991—92
Paul Lambert - 32.7
Jackie Milburn - 19.6
Paul Hurst - 6.7

Note that PL has had more games in charge than RK and PJ.

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John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:06 - Jan 27 with 1655 viewsBeckets

John Duncan must be loving all this on 13:56 - Jan 27 by Kropotkin123

Win Ratio Table
Mick O'Brien - 64.1 - Southern League champions 1936—37
Alf Ramsey - 47.7 - Division Three (South) champions 1956—57, Division Two champions 1960—61, Division One champions 1961—62
George Burley - 45.5 - Division One play-off winners 1999-2000
John Duncan - 45.3
Bobby Robson - 44.6 - Texaco Cup winners 1972—73, FA Cup winners 1977—78, UEFA Cup winners 1980—81
Joe Royle - 42.9
Bill McGarry - 40.8 - Division Two champions 1967—68
Scott Duncan - 40.6 - Division Three (South) champions 1953—54
Jim Magilton - 37.8
Bobby Ferguson - 37.6
Mick McCarthy - 37.6
Roy Keane - 34.6
Paul Jewell - 34.1
John Lyall - 33.3 - Division Two champions 1991—92
Paul Lambert - 32.7
Jackie Milburn - 19.6
Paul Hurst - 6.7

Note that PL has had more games in charge than RK and PJ.


Also worth looking at which tier of football they were operating at. For example SBR all at the highest level, Magilton, McCarthy etc second tier and so on. Before my time but I think all of Milburns in the highest tier and of course Hurst only had about 15 or so games. Given that about 75% of Lamberts games have been in the third tier I think he could lay claim to being the most clueless manager we’ve ever had.
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:09 - Jan 27 with 1646 viewsBryanPlug

John Duncan must be loving all this on 13:56 - Jan 27 by Kropotkin123

Win Ratio Table
Mick O'Brien - 64.1 - Southern League champions 1936—37
Alf Ramsey - 47.7 - Division Three (South) champions 1956—57, Division Two champions 1960—61, Division One champions 1961—62
George Burley - 45.5 - Division One play-off winners 1999-2000
John Duncan - 45.3
Bobby Robson - 44.6 - Texaco Cup winners 1972—73, FA Cup winners 1977—78, UEFA Cup winners 1980—81
Joe Royle - 42.9
Bill McGarry - 40.8 - Division Two champions 1967—68
Scott Duncan - 40.6 - Division Three (South) champions 1953—54
Jim Magilton - 37.8
Bobby Ferguson - 37.6
Mick McCarthy - 37.6
Roy Keane - 34.6
Paul Jewell - 34.1
John Lyall - 33.3 - Division Two champions 1991—92
Paul Lambert - 32.7
Jackie Milburn - 19.6
Paul Hurst - 6.7

Note that PL has had more games in charge than RK and PJ.


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John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:18 - Jan 27 with 1627 viewsKropotkin123

John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:06 - Jan 27 by Beckets

Also worth looking at which tier of football they were operating at. For example SBR all at the highest level, Magilton, McCarthy etc second tier and so on. Before my time but I think all of Milburns in the highest tier and of course Hurst only had about 15 or so games. Given that about 75% of Lamberts games have been in the third tier I think he could lay claim to being the most clueless manager we’ve ever had.


Yeah, agreed. I think also Lyall's stats are a little unfair, as he got us promoted. Naturally promoted teams fair worse, as you are stepping up a level, unless your name is Sir Alf.

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John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:19 - Jan 27 with 1621 viewsmrfixit426

John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:38 - Jan 27 by BelsteadCav

Duncan’s side would hammer this lot.

This really is the worst Ipswich town side in history


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John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:28 - Jan 27 with 1588 viewsmonkeymagic

John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:18 - Jan 27 by Kropotkin123

Yeah, agreed. I think also Lyall's stats are a little unfair, as he got us promoted. Naturally promoted teams fair worse, as you are stepping up a level, unless your name is Sir Alf.


I never thought at the time that I’d ever look back fondly on the Duncan years. It seemed embarrassing then but little did I realise much worse was to come. Harbey was a gifted full back compared to Chambers and there was still some genuine talent in the team with Dozzel, Zondervan and Wilson to name a few. I don’t recall questioning their effort nor the running of the club either.
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:45 - Jan 27 with 1549 viewsmrfixit426

John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:28 - Jan 27 by monkeymagic

I never thought at the time that I’d ever look back fondly on the Duncan years. It seemed embarrassing then but little did I realise much worse was to come. Harbey was a gifted full back compared to Chambers and there was still some genuine talent in the team with Dozzel, Zondervan and Wilson to name a few. I don’t recall questioning their effort nor the running of the club either.


David Lowe was also one of my favourite strikers we've ever had.
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arf on 14:53 - Jan 27 with 1536 viewsDyland

John Duncan must be loving all this on 13:56 - Jan 27 by Kropotkin123

Win Ratio Table
Mick O'Brien - 64.1 - Southern League champions 1936—37
Alf Ramsey - 47.7 - Division Three (South) champions 1956—57, Division Two champions 1960—61, Division One champions 1961—62
George Burley - 45.5 - Division One play-off winners 1999-2000
John Duncan - 45.3
Bobby Robson - 44.6 - Texaco Cup winners 1972—73, FA Cup winners 1977—78, UEFA Cup winners 1980—81
Joe Royle - 42.9
Bill McGarry - 40.8 - Division Two champions 1967—68
Scott Duncan - 40.6 - Division Three (South) champions 1953—54
Jim Magilton - 37.8
Bobby Ferguson - 37.6
Mick McCarthy - 37.6
Roy Keane - 34.6
Paul Jewell - 34.1
John Lyall - 33.3 - Division Two champions 1991—92
Paul Lambert - 32.7
Jackie Milburn - 19.6
Paul Hurst - 6.7

Note that PL has had more games in charge than RK and PJ.


Pretty damning stuff whichever way Marcus spins this in his head.

Oh yeh, he doesn't care!

Utterly contemptible now. Plenty of mitigating factors had me defending MEG, albeit more and more grudgingly, until now. It's a dereliction of duty and shameful it's allowed to continue. Yep, all just business, we know. Does not make it right or fair though.

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John Duncan must be loving all this on 16:35 - Jan 27 with 1439 viewsArnoldMoorhen

John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:45 - Jan 27 by mrfixit426

David Lowe was also one of my favourite strikers we've ever had.


And Mark Brennan was decent, too.
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 16:48 - Jan 27 with 1421 viewsThe_Last_Baron

John Duncan must be loving all this on 14:28 - Jan 27 by monkeymagic

I never thought at the time that I’d ever look back fondly on the Duncan years. It seemed embarrassing then but little did I realise much worse was to come. Harbey was a gifted full back compared to Chambers and there was still some genuine talent in the team with Dozzel, Zondervan and Wilson to name a few. I don’t recall questioning their effort nor the running of the club either.


Wilson left before Duncan arrived. Lowe was signed to replace him and in my view was as good before he got his bad knee injury.

John Duncan's side had many good players, Wark, Zondervan, Linighan, Dozzell, Kiwomya, Redford, Forres. Even Tony Humes and Neil Woods would walk into the current shambles.

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John Duncan must be loving all this on 21:35 - Jan 27 with 1304 viewsDBaldy

John Duncan must be loving all this on 13:56 - Jan 27 by Kropotkin123

Win Ratio Table
Mick O'Brien - 64.1 - Southern League champions 1936—37
Alf Ramsey - 47.7 - Division Three (South) champions 1956—57, Division Two champions 1960—61, Division One champions 1961—62
George Burley - 45.5 - Division One play-off winners 1999-2000
John Duncan - 45.3
Bobby Robson - 44.6 - Texaco Cup winners 1972—73, FA Cup winners 1977—78, UEFA Cup winners 1980—81
Joe Royle - 42.9
Bill McGarry - 40.8 - Division Two champions 1967—68
Scott Duncan - 40.6 - Division Three (South) champions 1953—54
Jim Magilton - 37.8
Bobby Ferguson - 37.6
Mick McCarthy - 37.6
Roy Keane - 34.6
Paul Jewell - 34.1
John Lyall - 33.3 - Division Two champions 1991—92
Paul Lambert - 32.7
Jackie Milburn - 19.6
Paul Hurst - 6.7

Note that PL has had more games in charge than RK and PJ.


Good list, but does Mick McGiven not qualify or are his "results" included in Lyall's numbers? I'd argue he was just as bad as Lambert & Hurst.
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 21:41 - Jan 27 with 1296 viewsPJH

John Duncan must be loving all this on 13:33 - Jan 27 by Woolfenthen

Jackie Milburn created the youth team set up, so for me gets quite a bit of leeway


and, although he signed some rubbish, he also signed a few pretty good players- Frank Brogan, Danny Hegan, Gerry Baker were three. Mick McNeil was ok for us and an ex England international. Joe Broadfoot was also good at times.
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 21:44 - Jan 27 with 1292 viewsPJH

John Duncan must be loving all this on 21:35 - Jan 27 by DBaldy

Good list, but does Mick McGiven not qualify or are his "results" included in Lyall's numbers? I'd argue he was just as bad as Lambert & Hurst.


He was never ITFC manager-first team manager or something but John Lyall was still ITFC manager.
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 21:51 - Jan 27 with 1277 viewsParamedic

Looking back the Duncan era was an absolute joy compared to the last 10 years. Had some great times following the team then. And we had some really good exciting players, some not previously mentioned, Dalian Atkinson, Ian Redford, Sergei, Neil Thompson (think he was one of Duncan’s), Milton etc.

AllalallalSunderland

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John Duncan must be loving all this on 22:24 - Jan 27 with 1235 viewsChurchman

John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:38 - Jan 27 by chicoazul

Remember when we used to laugh at Duncan era players like Harbey David Hill and Louie Donowa? And how they would always crop up on worst player ever lists?
All of them would be a huge improvement now.


9000 crowds, home defeats in the rain, a manager running around the pitch before his first game with a little piece of paper giving instructions to players wearing an expression that said ‘wtf’. We lost.

Duncan was pretty awful and so was the football. But compared to four of the last five he was Juergen Klopp. He cared too and was around when the 92 Lyall side won the Second division.

Harbey? He was a bit of a joke. A desperately bad player who was slow, couldn’t tackle, head or anything else really. But he would of course walk into the current team.

Of the players at that time, I really rated in particular Brennan, Stockwell and David Lowe. The latter had a rather stooping posture, but knew where the goal was. Ian Cranson was a good player but made of glass. I think it was Duncan that brought in Paul Goddard. Over the top, but he did well for Town.

Were the Duncan years happy ones? No, they were poor in every way. That we have plumbed the depths over recent years does make me look back at them with nostalgia tbh, not least because Lyall turned A number of Duncan’s players into a decent team. I actually think Duncan will be upset at the disaster that’s befallen the club.
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 22:24 - Jan 27 by Churchman

9000 crowds, home defeats in the rain, a manager running around the pitch before his first game with a little piece of paper giving instructions to players wearing an expression that said ‘wtf’. We lost.

Duncan was pretty awful and so was the football. But compared to four of the last five he was Juergen Klopp. He cared too and was around when the 92 Lyall side won the Second division.

Harbey? He was a bit of a joke. A desperately bad player who was slow, couldn’t tackle, head or anything else really. But he would of course walk into the current team.

Of the players at that time, I really rated in particular Brennan, Stockwell and David Lowe. The latter had a rather stooping posture, but knew where the goal was. Ian Cranson was a good player but made of glass. I think it was Duncan that brought in Paul Goddard. Over the top, but he did well for Town.

Were the Duncan years happy ones? No, they were poor in every way. That we have plumbed the depths over recent years does make me look back at them with nostalgia tbh, not least because Lyall turned A number of Duncan’s players into a decent team. I actually think Duncan will be upset at the disaster that’s befallen the club.
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The frustrating inconsistency of the Duncan era can be summed up in three successive results from his final season in charge of us:

26 December 1989 vs West Ham (H) Won 1-0
30 December 1989 vs Middlesbrough (H) Won 3-0
Back to back home wins against two sides which had been relegated from the top flight the previous season. All of which teed us up for:

1 January 1990 vs Port Vale (A) Lost 5-0
Our heaviest league defeat since August 1985 (vs Liverpool) against a side promoted from Division 3....and we didn't win in the league until March.
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John Duncan must be loving all this on 22:46 - Jan 27 with 1183 viewsTrumptonBlue

John Duncan must be loving all this on 12:38 - Jan 27 by chicoazul

Remember when we used to laugh at Duncan era players like Harbey David Hill and Louie Donowa? And how they would always crop up on worst player ever lists?
All of them would be a huge improvement now.


I really liked Louie Donowa.
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