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and why he hired Wayne Rooney. I've just watched this and I'm puzzled by his response that results don't matter. Maybe he'll be proven right we will just have to wait and see but a strange interview.
If I recall he worked at Everton when Rooney was there and has hired four scouse managers in a row.
They may well have been the best available candidate every single time, you’d argue that Schumacher and Lowe were both good appointments but now it’s hard to say that Foster and especially Rooney were the best options at the time.
I don't get the hate for Wayne Rooney, i suspect its a legacy from his playing days.
I thought he did well at Derby considering how much of the mire they were in, he showed them loyalty when allegedly Celtic/Everton was knocking on the door, he kept them up in the first season and only left once they had gone down to L1 the following season. His time at Birmingham and DC United were a mixed bag (ok it wasn't always great) but he is a young manager learning his way in the managerial game.
Maybe what he needs is a team like Plymouth who will give him more than a handful of games, irrespective of results. It sometimes takes time for people to find their feet in a new role.
I don't get the hate for Wayne Rooney, i suspect its a legacy from his playing days.
I thought he did well at Derby considering how much of the mire they were in, he showed them loyalty when allegedly Celtic/Everton was knocking on the door, he kept them up in the first season and only left once they had gone down to L1 the following season. His time at Birmingham and DC United were a mixed bag (ok it wasn't always great) but he is a young manager learning his way in the managerial game.
Maybe what he needs is a team like Plymouth who will give him more than a handful of games, irrespective of results. It sometimes takes time for people to find their feet in a new role.
A win percentage of 26 over 153 games with some of the biggest budgeted team probably has something to do with it.
Terrible appointment for Argyle, don’t know what they were thinking.
A win percentage of 26 over 153 games with some of the biggest budgeted team probably has something to do with it.
Terrible appointment for Argyle, don’t know what they were thinking.
He hasn't ever had the chance to spend money at clubs. At Derby, he took over midseason and then got the job full-time. Derby spent nearly all the time he was there in administration for his only full season there, so his hands were very tied. He took over Birmingham in October and got sacked in Jan, so not really much time to spend there either, especially with the transfer window closed already before he joined.
His loss percentage is at ~44%, which is high but not as extreme as some people who get the sack.
I don't get the hate for Wayne Rooney, i suspect its a legacy from his playing days.
I thought he did well at Derby considering how much of the mire they were in, he showed them loyalty when allegedly Celtic/Everton was knocking on the door, he kept them up in the first season and only left once they had gone down to L1 the following season. His time at Birmingham and DC United were a mixed bag (ok it wasn't always great) but he is a young manager learning his way in the managerial game.
Maybe what he needs is a team like Plymouth who will give him more than a handful of games, irrespective of results. It sometimes takes time for people to find their feet in a new role.
He is VERY famous.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
I don't get the hate for Wayne Rooney, i suspect its a legacy from his playing days.
I thought he did well at Derby considering how much of the mire they were in, he showed them loyalty when allegedly Celtic/Everton was knocking on the door, he kept them up in the first season and only left once they had gone down to L1 the following season. His time at Birmingham and DC United were a mixed bag (ok it wasn't always great) but he is a young manager learning his way in the managerial game.
Maybe what he needs is a team like Plymouth who will give him more than a handful of games, irrespective of results. It sometimes takes time for people to find their feet in a new role.
Do you also wonder why Frank Lampard isn't considered a very good manager? It's because he hasn't been able to achieve much with the resources he's been given. Really good players - like Lampard & Rooney - rarely make good managers, but these days they seem to get appointed by clueless owners, bewitched by their reputations players. Wasn't Lampard close to getting the Town job & might even have turned it down?
He hasn't ever had the chance to spend money at clubs. At Derby, he took over midseason and then got the job full-time. Derby spent nearly all the time he was there in administration for his only full season there, so his hands were very tied. He took over Birmingham in October and got sacked in Jan, so not really much time to spend there either, especially with the transfer window closed already before he joined.
His loss percentage is at ~44%, which is high but not as extreme as some people who get the sack.
Think he is generally viewed as having done a good job at Derby in very difficult circumstances. I think he made the mistake of trying to change things too quickly with someone else's players at Birmingham and it all went very awry very quickly. Spoke well after our game there - when the played well barring the last 10 minutes - and was liked by their media, from what I recall.
Do you also wonder why Frank Lampard isn't considered a very good manager? It's because he hasn't been able to achieve much with the resources he's been given. Really good players - like Lampard & Rooney - rarely make good managers, but these days they seem to get appointed by clueless owners, bewitched by their reputations players. Wasn't Lampard close to getting the Town job & might even have turned it down?
Indeed - and you only have to listen to Rooney’s post match interviews to see why he can’t coherently message tactics to his player - a painful listen.
Aside from being a thoroughly unlikable chav, he’s keeping some upstart coaches out of a job by being constantly picked up on the manager merry go round, simply for having a famous name.
Saw Derby down, sent Brum on their way - surely a relegation hatrick becons with Plymouth.
A win percentage of 26 over 153 games with some of the biggest budgeted team probably has something to do with it.
Terrible appointment for Argyle, don’t know what they were thinking.
Biggest budgeted team?! When an earth has that been the case? His Derby team was full of youth team players and mercenaries who were signed by predecessors. His Birmingham team was all inherited. I think that he is the best of the bunch in terms of him, Gerrard and Lampard (I know that's not saying much) but the other 2 have been a lot more fortunate with their appointments.
Think he is generally viewed as having done a good job at Derby in very difficult circumstances. I think he made the mistake of trying to change things too quickly with someone else's players at Birmingham and it all went very awry very quickly. Spoke well after our game there - when the played well barring the last 10 minutes - and was liked by their media, from what I recall.
Wasn't Rosenior his assistant at Derby. I think Rooney has far more to prove than Rosenior.
Clearly appointed for the name and profile, especially given where Plymouth are located.
They need to be careful going for a brand manager as we found out with Keane, even though Keane at least had a promotion on his CV.
To be fair to Rooney, he doesn't have to work, hasn't taken the big jobs like Lampard and Gerrard, and is trying to navigate his way with clubs running lesser budgets.
Clearly appointed for the name and profile, especially given where Plymouth are located.
They need to be careful going for a brand manager as we found out with Keane, even though Keane at least had a promotion on his CV.
To be fair to Rooney, he doesn't have to work, hasn't taken the big jobs like Lampard and Gerrard, and is trying to navigate his way with clubs running lesser budgets.
So in defence of our owner I very much doubt he has brought Wazza in for his image rights
Simon Hallett is a bright guy. He believes in giving the manager a support network which he has built over the years. Hence when Lowe and Schumacher arrived and the Lowe took the Preston shilling everyone was shocked when Schumacher got the gig. It worked but Hallet always said the real test would be when Schumacher lost a few games. Indeed before that when Lowe had a bad run there was never any talk of getting rid
He also said is Schumacher lost the dressing room he would build him a new one rather than sack him
So when the stoke helicopter landed the recruitment process was Halley the ceo Andrew Parkinson and Neil Dewsnip. It’s very much a three man decision Same when they decided to remove Foster. Halley himself has said he felt Foster was the right choice from the candidates but results dictated that if they wanted to survive he had to go. Hallett view was that was the failure of the selection team more than that of Ian Foster
As for Rooney hallett says the data supports Rooney being a a better manager than his results show. At Derby as people have pointed out he was a mid table side that had a huge points deduction. At Brum he never had a pre season or a window Washington he improved the side.
It’s fair to say initial reaction at HP was luke warm. Rooney has turned that round. He seems to have bought into the club ethos. Playing style is aggressive and forward thinking. Signings are left field and exciting. Whittaker seems settled. cooper may be off but better now for cash then next season for nothing. Of course friendlies mean nothing. But assuming we don’t ship five goals for the first three games in a row then I think he will have the crowd Behind him.
So if we hired him it’s because we and more importantly the management team think it could work. Not because he is famous.
Not long to find out now. Now hurry up and buy szmodics !!
Robson was a good manager at Boro and Keane is well liked by Sunderland fans
Robson made a well funded Boro a yoyo team & I don't think that was a great achievement. His subsequent appointments at Bradford, WBA & Sheffield United were also unsuccessful. Keane took Sunderland up at in his first season & then kept them up, which was a good achievement.
I don't get the hate for Wayne Rooney, i suspect its a legacy from his playing days.
I thought he did well at Derby considering how much of the mire they were in, he showed them loyalty when allegedly Celtic/Everton was knocking on the door, he kept them up in the first season and only left once they had gone down to L1 the following season. His time at Birmingham and DC United were a mixed bag (ok it wasn't always great) but he is a young manager learning his way in the managerial game.
Maybe what he needs is a team like Plymouth who will give him more than a handful of games, irrespective of results. It sometimes takes time for people to find their feet in a new role.
Not sure it’s hate, there’s a general dislike however for people that are in a very privileged position earning thousands of pounds then consistently under achieving.
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