| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… 22:10 - Jan 17 with 5302 views | pointofblue |
for Muric and Godfrey on Sunday?
Edit: Despite the -12 so far, I'm glad I started the thread as I did have the belief that everyone would be saying - even if many grudgingly - yes, particularly Godfrey for Woolfenden. Maybe I should have realised Muric for Walton would be more split. Perhaps what I should have done is add more to the OP when first posting, rather than just leaving it and the question. Lesson learned. [Post edited 18 Jan 23:22]
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 22:14 - Jan 17 with 4358 views | J2BLUE |
....no? |  |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 22:16 - Jan 17 with 4321 views | Horsham |
I would but not sure it’s a consensus! Muric for starters will never be a consensus pick! |  | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 22:17 - Jan 17 with 4305 views | pointofblue |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 22:14 - Jan 17 by J2BLUE |
....no? |
Only going off each of the predicted teams I see being posted. All seem to be suggesting that.
Have to admit, I’m angling that way and I’m not a great fan of Muric and think Woolfenden has done well for the most part this season. | |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 22:21 - Jan 17 with 4265 views | Swansea_Blue |
Nope. Also, are we going to be playing Godfrey at CB? He played on the right in the cup and that’s where we’re shortest. |  |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 22:22 - Jan 17 with 4253 views | pointofblue |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 22:21 - Jan 17 by Swansea_Blue |
Nope. Also, are we going to be playing Godfrey at CB? He played on the right in the cup and that’s where we’re shortest. |
If we stick to a back three I imagine he’d play RCB with O’Shea moving central. | |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 22:57 - Jan 17 with 4027 views | Sarge |
No. Walton is better than Muric and Woolfenden has been immense since coming back into the team. | | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 23:10 - Jan 17 with 3965 views | GlasgowBlue |
Woolfie has impressed since his return but he was beaten for pace a couple of times last night. If Godfrey comes into the team it makes sense to play O'shea in the middle. And he has loads of pace. |  |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 23:17 - Jan 17 with 3924 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 23:10 - Jan 17 by GlasgowBlue |
Woolfie has impressed since his return but he was beaten for pace a couple of times last night. If Godfrey comes into the team it makes sense to play O'shea in the middle. And he has loads of pace. |
Godfrey has bags of Prem experience and was the fastest player at Everton. Makes sense to use him. [Post edited 17 Jan 23:18]
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 23:28 - Jan 17 with 3877 views | Stenvict |
Walton had a poor game, so naturally Slicker should start.
And if he has a poor game, we revert back to Muric, and so on and so forth. | |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 23:37 - Jan 17 with 3839 views | pointofblue |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 23:10 - Jan 17 by GlasgowBlue |
Woolfie has impressed since his return but he was beaten for pace a couple of times last night. If Godfrey comes into the team it makes sense to play O'shea in the middle. And he has loads of pace. |
I think it was itfcjoe who made a really good point about how it seemed to be tactical for Pedro to move deeper to try and unsettle our defence. I don’t think it particularly worked until we switched to a back four - that’s when Woolfenden became slightly exposed.
I was surprised at the time we didn’t bring Godfrey on for Woolfenden at that point, which is not meant as criticism of the latter, but he does come across - particularly at this level - as more comfortable in a three than a flat four. | |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 23:56 - Jan 17 with 3759 views | Garv |
Seems harsh.
Defender wanders across Walton's line of vision just as Mitoma hits a daisy cutter more or less into the middle of the goal, and it goes in via a nick off said defender. There was one slightly misjudged pass first half that led to a half chance from 20 yards out, and a pass out for a corner second half. Both occasions Brighton's press was spot on and we were at desperation stages by the time of the latter.
Woolfy again was good on the whole in my view. He took a yellow card at one stage because JP did him for pace, but that can happen. The (fair) tackle first half that injured JP was a highlight for me and that led to us keeping pressure on them and getting a chance. He definitely wouldn't be the CB I'd be looking to drop right now, and he's rarely flustered, if we're going to keep trying to play from deep he's an important cog. |  |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 02:11 - Jan 18 with 3533 views | eddiespearitt03 |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 23:56 - Jan 17 by Garv |
Seems harsh.
Defender wanders across Walton's line of vision just as Mitoma hits a daisy cutter more or less into the middle of the goal, and it goes in via a nick off said defender. There was one slightly misjudged pass first half that led to a half chance from 20 yards out, and a pass out for a corner second half. Both occasions Brighton's press was spot on and we were at desperation stages by the time of the latter.
Woolfy again was good on the whole in my view. He took a yellow card at one stage because JP did him for pace, but that can happen. The (fair) tackle first half that injured JP was a highlight for me and that led to us keeping pressure on them and getting a chance. He definitely wouldn't be the CB I'd be looking to drop right now, and he's rarely flustered, if we're going to keep trying to play from deep he's an important cog. |
We are lucky to have 3 half decent goal keepers at the club.
Hopefully , with the new signings and brave decisions our fortunes could change dramatically. | | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 04:59 - Jan 18 with 3392 views | ibbleobble |
😂 - it’s an obvious, no. Thankfully KM doesn’t manage the side using tabloid stats either. | | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 06:56 - Jan 18 with 3304 views | MK1 |
It's a no from me. |  |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 07:09 - Jan 18 with 3269 views | Blue_Heath |
Whatever the question not sure Muric or Walton are the answer to be honest. | | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 07:48 - Jan 18 with 3181 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 22:17 - Jan 17 by pointofblue |
Only going off each of the predicted teams I see being posted. All seem to be suggesting that.
Have to admit, I’m angling that way and I’m not a great fan of Muric and think Woolfenden has done well for the most part this season. |
How many predicted teams have you seen?!
I suggest you know full well it isn't a consensus, or even remotely close to one, so your title is more attention seeking than anything close to the truth. |  |
| Trust the process. Trust Phil. |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 08:08 - Jan 18 with 3124 views | Simonds92 |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 22:57 - Jan 17 by Sarge |
No. Walton is better than Muric and Woolfenden has been immense since coming back into the team. |
Walton is not a better keeper than Muric. However, so far he's made less mistakes. Muric is much the better goalkeeper but if he can't get rid of the moments of stupidity he's no good for us. I'd stick with Walton for the time being and hope he improves. I don't know when I'd bring Muric back in, but it doesn't feel like Sunday is the right time.
As for the CBs we should absolutely be looking at replacing Woolfenden with Godfrey with O'Shea moving central.... but I'd also be looking at bringing Burgess in for Greaves. | | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 08:09 - Jan 18 with 3120 views | ibbleobble |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 08:08 - Jan 18 by Simonds92 |
Walton is not a better keeper than Muric. However, so far he's made less mistakes. Muric is much the better goalkeeper but if he can't get rid of the moments of stupidity he's no good for us. I'd stick with Walton for the time being and hope he improves. I don't know when I'd bring Muric back in, but it doesn't feel like Sunday is the right time.
As for the CBs we should absolutely be looking at replacing Woolfenden with Godfrey with O'Shea moving central.... but I'd also be looking at bringing Burgess in for Greaves. |
How can he be a better keeper if he makes more mistakes? The logic circulating this forum is baffling. | | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 08:18 - Jan 18 with 3072 views | cressi |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 08:08 - Jan 18 by Simonds92 |
Walton is not a better keeper than Muric. However, so far he's made less mistakes. Muric is much the better goalkeeper but if he can't get rid of the moments of stupidity he's no good for us. I'd stick with Walton for the time being and hope he improves. I don't know when I'd bring Muric back in, but it doesn't feel like Sunday is the right time.
As for the CBs we should absolutely be looking at replacing Woolfenden with Godfrey with O'Shea moving central.... but I'd also be looking at bringing Burgess in for Greaves. |
Muric has a error in him every game even Bristol Rovers I do not believe even at 30 he will change even though people believe McKenna is God a poor buy in my humble opinion. | | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 08:26 - Jan 18 with 3051 views | Swansea_Blue |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 08:09 - Jan 18 by ibbleobble |
How can he be a better keeper if he makes more mistakes? The logic circulating this forum is baffling. |
Quite easily. There’s a lot more to being a keeper than just how many mistakes they make.
I suppose it would be clearer if people said Muric has several attributes* that are better, but it seems pretty obvious what people mean. If he continues making mistakes it will be his Achilles heel though and makes it a difficult choice for KM, as Walton might be the preferred option even if he’s technically inferior in a few areas.
*I think Muric is quicker, stronger, generally more decisive, commands his area and claims high balls better and is a slightly better shot stopper. | |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 08:33 - Jan 18 with 3006 views | Scuzzer |
No. |  |
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| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 10:08 - Jan 18 with 2776 views | OldFart71 |
Not sure about replacing Walton but I think despite what many think Godfrey will come in to replace Woolfenden. I'm all for local players, locally born and all that but there can be no room for sentiment and whilst Woolfenden has in the main performed to a decent level I don't see him as Premier League standard. It has to be remembered that before KM came in he was on his way out and seeing as value wise his worth sale wise is better than some others it may pay the club to cash in and we have to get rid of a couple of players and maybe more if any more new players come in. | | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 10:23 - Jan 18 with 2688 views | OldFart71 |
Adding to what I have said I'd just like to make a comment on our goalkeepers. Whilst both are decent I'm not sure either are good enough for the Prem. Recently we have seen where bigger teams have had to bring in their second keepers and they have performed to a very high standard. Cerainly to a higher standard than either of Town's. I remember back to the days of Sir Bobby when Paul Cooper was in goal. Souper Cooper was the spot kick king saving endless pens. Yet Bobby tried to get Pat Jennings in as he was a top keeper for Spurs. | | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 10:33 - Jan 18 with 2662 views | Churchman |
No.
Chopping and changing the team, albeit frequently not through choice, has not helped us this season. |  | | |
| So is consensus Walton and Woolfenden should be dropped… on 11:23 - Jan 18 with 2546 views | bournemouthblue |
Wolfy maybe?
Walton would be a bit harsh at this stage |  |
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