| World War 3 08:44 - Mar 1 with 8137 views | onceablue |
Trump has received a lot of criticism on this page in the last 24 hours and rightly so
However him so called cosying up with Putin at least puts a hold on World War 3 in the short term
If Trump and Putin hated each other the World would be over |  | | |  |
| World War 3 on 08:46 - Mar 1 with 4108 views | Keno |
Chamberlain and Hitler got on quite well, that ended up ok
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| World War 3 on 08:47 - Mar 1 with 4098 views | bluelagos |
WW3 would mean we avoid relegation, if they get on with it. |  |
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| World War 3 on 08:57 - Mar 1 with 4009 views | Mullet |
Cosying up is incredibly euphemistic. All he’s done is ratchet up the potential for more violence across more places with the fallout. |  |
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| World War 3 on 09:04 - Mar 1 with 3967 views | Dubtractor |
| World War 3 on 08:47 - Mar 1 by bluelagos |
WW3 would mean we avoid relegation, if they get on with it. |
Every cloud and all that.... |  |
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| World War 3 on 09:04 - Mar 1 with 3969 views | MattinLondon |
| World War 3 on 08:47 - Mar 1 by bluelagos |
WW3 would mean we avoid relegation, if they get on with it. |
Nah - conscription will mean all of our players will get called up and we’ll need ex-players to play against Wolves in a winner stays up match.
Wolves will field Steve Bull and we’ll have Tony Dinning and managed by Lambert. |  | | |
| World War 3 on 09:05 - Mar 1 with 3947 views | Herbivore |
Yes, because appeasing a dictator carrying out a land grab has historically been a great way to avoid world wars. |  |
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| World War 3 on 09:07 - Mar 1 with 3920 views | bluelagos |
| World War 3 on 09:04 - Mar 1 by MattinLondon |
Nah - conscription will mean all of our players will get called up and we’ll need ex-players to play against Wolves in a winner stays up match.
Wolves will field Steve Bull and we’ll have Tony Dinning and managed by Lambert. |
And Graham Harbey putting in some of his crosses... | |
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| World War 3 on 09:31 - Mar 1 with 3821 views | BlueBadger |
If there's one thing that history has taught us, it's that appeasement is a sure fire method of stopping global conflict from breaking out. [Post edited 1 Mar 10:12]
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| World War 3 on 10:05 - Mar 1 with 3680 views | Churchman |
| World War 3 on 09:04 - Mar 1 by MattinLondon |
Nah - conscription will mean all of our players will get called up and we’ll need ex-players to play against Wolves in a winner stays up match.
Wolves will field Steve Bull and we’ll have Tony Dinning and managed by Lambert. |
At least Jonathan Douglas won’t have lost any pace if we wheel him in. |  | | |
| World War 3 on 10:15 - Mar 1 with 3646 views | Leaky |
| World War 3 on 09:04 - Mar 1 by MattinLondon |
Nah - conscription will mean all of our players will get called up and we’ll need ex-players to play against Wolves in a winner stays up match.
Wolves will field Steve Bull and we’ll have Tony Dinning and managed by Lambert. |
Gives a huge advantage to teams full of foriegn players though |  | | |
| World War 3 on 10:16 - Mar 1 with 3648 views | Guthrum |
Putin doesn't want a World War and would only start one in extremis, i.e. if Russia - or he - was facing and existential threat. It's what all their nuclear doctrines say. He is a Russian Nationalist. Last thing he wants is for the country to be destroyed.
Some of Trump's backers, on the other hand, might be quite happy with a nuclear holocaust, as it could bring on the End Times  .
For that matter, Hitler didn't want a World War, but blundered into one by accident having misjudged the situation. |  |
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| World War 3 on 10:34 - Mar 1 with 3561 views | Churchman |
| World War 3 on 10:16 - Mar 1 by Guthrum |
Putin doesn't want a World War and would only start one in extremis, i.e. if Russia - or he - was facing and existential threat. It's what all their nuclear doctrines say. He is a Russian Nationalist. Last thing he wants is for the country to be destroyed.
Some of Trump's backers, on the other hand, might be quite happy with a nuclear holocaust, as it could bring on the End Times .
For that matter, Hitler didn't want a World War, but blundered into one by accident having misjudged the situation. |
No Hitler didn’t want a world war. He wanted to swallow it piece by piece, exactly as Putin wants to do in Europe. Yes, Hitler certainly feared war on two fronts. Who wouldn’t? But in the end he was a chancer, a gambler in addition to being a maniac.
Putin is much more calculating, if still a maniac. Our latest tyrant Trump is neither a gambler or calculating. He is as simple as it’s possible to be. A puffed up arrogant idiot that sees dollars alone and lives in a made up world of weak flunkeys fighting each other to wipe the dribble off his chin. Because they too only think about the dollar.
If somebody challenges makeup man Trump in any way, watch him blow up. Yesterday’s fiasco showed how weak he is. Anybody strong would never have allowed that to happen - unless it was pre-planned/choreographed. | | | |
| World War 3 on 10:35 - Mar 1 with 3560 views | NthQldITFC |
| World War 3 on 10:05 - Mar 1 by Churchman |
At least Jonathan Douglas won’t have lost any pace if we wheel him in. |
Poor sod's only just made it back to the dressing room after his last appearance - you're not going to make him turn straight round and go back out there, are you? |  |
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| World War 3 on 10:46 - Mar 1 with 3491 views | Churchman |
| World War 3 on 10:35 - Mar 1 by NthQldITFC |
Poor sod's only just made it back to the dressing room after his last appearance - you're not going to make him turn straight round and go back out there, are you? |
Yep. With an electric cattle prod. That should inject a little bit of pace into him. | | | |
| World War 3 on 10:49 - Mar 1 with 3495 views | StokieBlue |
Trump literally accused Zelenskyy of risking WW3 in the awful bullying episode yesterday.
As for your second paragraph, it's just total nonsense. Lots of leaders of the Western and Eastern blocks have hated each other but there hasn't been a war because in reality there is nothing it for either party, they don't want to die or have their countries wrecked. Fighting through proxies is much less dangerous.
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| World War 3 on 10:54 - Mar 1 with 3445 views | redrickstuhaart |
| World War 3 on 10:49 - Mar 1 by StokieBlue |
Trump literally accused Zelenskyy of risking WW3 in the awful bullying episode yesterday.
As for your second paragraph, it's just total nonsense. Lots of leaders of the Western and Eastern blocks have hated each other but there hasn't been a war because in reality there is nothing it for either party, they don't want to die or have their countries wrecked. Fighting through proxies is much less dangerous.
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When putin invades Lithuania because he is confident that America wont intervene, then we can talk about who is gambling with ww3.
Perhaps we will then have to give him an ultimatum about invading Poland... | | | |
| World War 3 on 11:01 - Mar 1 with 3363 views | Guthrum |
| World War 3 on 10:34 - Mar 1 by Churchman |
No Hitler didn’t want a world war. He wanted to swallow it piece by piece, exactly as Putin wants to do in Europe. Yes, Hitler certainly feared war on two fronts. Who wouldn’t? But in the end he was a chancer, a gambler in addition to being a maniac.
Putin is much more calculating, if still a maniac. Our latest tyrant Trump is neither a gambler or calculating. He is as simple as it’s possible to be. A puffed up arrogant idiot that sees dollars alone and lives in a made up world of weak flunkeys fighting each other to wipe the dribble off his chin. Because they too only think about the dollar.
If somebody challenges makeup man Trump in any way, watch him blow up. Yesterday’s fiasco showed how weak he is. Anybody strong would never have allowed that to happen - unless it was pre-planned/choreographed. |
I think it was pre-planned. Not necessarily by Trump (easy enough to rile him up to join in). Worth noting that is was little-American-in-chief Vance who led off against Zelensky.
Trump is calculating, but only in the very short term and - more even than money - what will maximally boost his "ratings" (with his cultists). | |
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| World War 3 on 11:01 - Mar 1 with 3362 views | StokieBlue |
| World War 3 on 10:54 - Mar 1 by redrickstuhaart |
When putin invades Lithuania because he is confident that America wont intervene, then we can talk about who is gambling with ww3.
Perhaps we will then have to give him an ultimatum about invading Poland... |
Surely it would be Estonia or Latvia first given they have a land border? Can't see them building up in Kaliningrad and going in that way.
The UK has a unit and Eurofighters stationed in Estonia, god knows what would happen.
Still not sure it'll happen though, just doesn't seem anything in it for Putin and it's a NATO country so would be risky. US might not intervene but the European countries might.
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| World War 3 on 11:06 - Mar 1 with 3335 views | redrickstuhaart |
| World War 3 on 11:01 - Mar 1 by StokieBlue |
Surely it would be Estonia or Latvia first given they have a land border? Can't see them building up in Kaliningrad and going in that way.
The UK has a unit and Eurofighters stationed in Estonia, god knows what would happen.
Still not sure it'll happen though, just doesn't seem anything in it for Putin and it's a NATO country so would be risky. US might not intervene but the European countries might.
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They are going to be emboldened and europe is in difficulty without us weaponry and supplies. Putin is always looking to push at boundaries and see what happens. | | | |
| World War 3 on 11:16 - Mar 1 with 3274 views | StokieBlue |
| World War 3 on 11:06 - Mar 1 by redrickstuhaart |
They are going to be emboldened and europe is in difficulty without us weaponry and supplies. Putin is always looking to push at boundaries and see what happens. |
I'm not convinced Europe is in that much difficultly in a conventional confrontation with Russia given their performance in Ukraine.
A lot of stuff is still built and manufactured in Europe.
I'm still not convinced Putin will push those boundaries but we will see.
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| World War 3 on 11:29 - Mar 1 with 3205 views | NeedhamChris |
| World War 3 on 11:16 - Mar 1 by StokieBlue |
I'm not convinced Europe is in that much difficultly in a conventional confrontation with Russia given their performance in Ukraine.
A lot of stuff is still built and manufactured in Europe.
I'm still not convinced Putin will push those boundaries but we will see.
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I would agree with this - from a conventional armed forces perspective I think it's been quite embarrassing for them compared to the rhetoric they put out.
My biggest concern is what would happen if Putin realised he was going to lose. | |
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| World War 3 on 11:38 - Mar 1 with 3128 views | pointofblue |
| World War 3 on 11:29 - Mar 1 by NeedhamChris |
I would agree with this - from a conventional armed forces perspective I think it's been quite embarrassing for them compared to the rhetoric they put out.
My biggest concern is what would happen if Putin realised he was going to lose. |
I think this is where countries have to tread carefully. Whilst they should not give Russia total victory, as Trump and Vance seem desperate to do, they cannot look to grind Russia into the dust because Putin is so unpredictable and could use the last resort if it looks like complete surrender on the battlefield. Europe/NATO should have been open to talking to him long before now, long before Trump returned to the White House. Not to give him everything he wanted but to find a path through where everyone could claim a degree of success. That's looking less likely now. | |
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| World War 3 on 11:43 - Mar 1 with 3106 views | Herbivore |
| World War 3 on 11:29 - Mar 1 by NeedhamChris |
I would agree with this - from a conventional armed forces perspective I think it's been quite embarrassing for them compared to the rhetoric they put out.
My biggest concern is what would happen if Putin realised he was going to lose. |
He won't start a conflict he thinks he'll lose, which is why I can't see him starting another conflict in Europe soon when his conventional resources have been so depleted by the war in Ukraine. | |
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| World War 3 on 11:49 - Mar 1 with 3072 views | Trequartista |
True, i think it puts the doomsday clock back a few minutes.
My fear is once they get talking and fail to reach a deal they will fall out big time. |  |
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| World War 3 on 11:49 - Mar 1 with 3061 views | Churchman |
| World War 3 on 11:38 - Mar 1 by pointofblue |
I think this is where countries have to tread carefully. Whilst they should not give Russia total victory, as Trump and Vance seem desperate to do, they cannot look to grind Russia into the dust because Putin is so unpredictable and could use the last resort if it looks like complete surrender on the battlefield. Europe/NATO should have been open to talking to him long before now, long before Trump returned to the White House. Not to give him everything he wanted but to find a path through where everyone could claim a degree of success. That's looking less likely now. |
He won’t use nuclear. Putin’s an utter coward. He bluffed three years ago and Europe’s leaders promptly messed the bed which emboldened the dictator further. If people in Russia truly believed the U.K. and or France were actually prepared to retaliate, they’d get rid of Putin in a minute if he threatened that. Nobody is keen on dying, even if they are, in the case of Putin and best most revered mate Trump, happy to see other people die.
Trump mentions he just wants peace a lot. He clearly doesn’t. People being killed? He doesn’t care. If he did he’d get the numbers right at the very least. The dead are just currency to him.
He wants the loot. It’s all that matters. If he’d wanted the war to end, he’d have pressured Putin to end it. Financially and militarily after three years, Russia isn’t in the best place. But Trump sees more booty in supporting Putin than stopping him. It’s as simple as that. [Post edited 1 Mar 11:54]
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