| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here 21:59 - Mar 26 with 3096 views | blueM3 |
Firstly, if Mark Ashton has lied and tried to perform some cover up then by all means he should be held accountable in the position he’s in.
But…. What would the meltdown be like had Kier Starmer appeared in our ground? How about Kemi Badenoch?
Whatever your political allegiance, be it Labour, Tory, Reform, or Lord help us Green, this board is still a festering hole of bile and vitriol.
If I’m a labour voter am I allowed to pledge my allegiance here if the chance arises? May I wave my Tory flag here? Whether some of you like it or not, Reform is a political party that is getting votes. Just because it may not fit your political ideology, that doesn’t make you right. I’m not a Lib Dem fan, but am I going to chastise someone who is just because they filmed a few short clips at a football club?
I’m not sure if any of you are aware but Ipswich Town Football Club isn’t on the voting register…. It has no political allegiance. That said, if YOU are on the list to vote, you’re free to vote for whoever you want without a bunch of chimps on this board saying who you can or cannot support.
The meltdown here is truly staggering. The fact that a supporters group is wheeling themselves out with statements is laughable along with it all. They don’t represent my political views and have no need to support or act against the club in anything in my name.
Let’s just concentrate on the football. I couldn’t care less if the Jolly Roger was flying above the cobbold at the next home game. I’m there for the football and i think people need to realise what they actually support a club for. The football on the pitch.
Marcus Evans was supposedly involved in shady deals. Probably somewhat worse than a politician meeting a few people at the club. Especially as the club has stated they don’t promote any political allegiance. Were any videos released by the club to the contrary? No.
So everybody just get off their high horse, let people vote how they wish and just carry on with the 22 players and a bag of air being hoofed around a pitch each Saturday |  | | |  |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:02 - Mar 26 with 2039 views | redrickstuhaart |
Absolutely nothing to do with freedom of speech.
Claiming that is straight out fo the bottom rung Maga playbook.
Embarrassing. Didn't read the rest. | |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:02 - Mar 26 with 2035 views | bartyg |
What's freedom of speech got to do with anything? |  |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:03 - Mar 26 with 2010 views | Vic |
1. I doubt Ashton and the club woukd have lied.
2. None of the other leaders have spoken the bile and vitriol Farage has. |  |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:03 - Mar 26 with 1980 views | vapour_trail |
What an absolute waste of time typing that lot out. |  |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:04 - Mar 26 with 1967 views | Zx1988 |
P*ss off, Mark. Don't you have a letter of resignation to be drafting? | |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:05 - Mar 26 with 1944 views | jayessess |
I would dearly love the club to have "no political allegiance", rather than printing off free shirts so Reform UK can use the club as a free location for filming their propaganda. |  |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:05 - Mar 26 with 1937 views | J2BLUE |
Your first sentence is really all that matters. |  |
| "I am a genuine believer in free speech, in the real sense, not the left wing sense, the 'I think free speech is important for people I agree with' Guardian readers" - Jonathan Pie ///// "These middle class, perma-offended, virtue-signalling woke w@nkers have declared that the great unwashed are just one tasteless joke away from turning into fascists" - Jonathan Pie ///// "In a sense, the political left’s attempts to silence ideas they cannot, or will not, debate are a confession of intellectual bankruptcy" - Thomas Sowell
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:05 - Mar 26 with 1942 views | NedPlimpton |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:02 - Mar 26 by redrickstuhaart |
Absolutely nothing to do with freedom of speech.
Claiming that is straight out fo the bottom rung Maga playbook.
Embarrassing. Didn't read the rest. |
Something about itfc not having a political allegiance. This chap must have missed the part where Ashton gifted reform 6 shirts with Farage 10 on the back |  | | |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:05 - Mar 26 with 1940 views | Nordic_nutty |
Ffs this is boring now. This same tired and boring stance has been destroyed several times already in the last few days. Can't even be bothered with this one. |  | | |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:05 - Mar 26 with 1919 views | Butterbing |
Staggering ridiculous post. |  | | |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:06 - Mar 26 with 1904 views | ITFC_Forever |
Completely missing the point.
The naivety, the lies and the dishonesty.
The fact ITFC should be, as you say apolitical means MA shouldn’t have allowed the club to be used for promotional material for a political party, especially one as divisive as Deform. |  |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:06 - Mar 26 with 1879 views | FBI |
Oh, blueM3
You're having a shocker here. |  |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:06 - Mar 26 with 1876 views | Lester_Freamon |
You're right, freedom of speech is irrelevant here, as it has absolutely nothing to do with anything that's happened in the last two days. |  | | |
| This has been explained ad nauseam ffs. on 22:06 - Mar 26 with 1873 views | Dyland |
It would still be outrageous if it were Starmer, Lord Buckethead or Greta Thunberg. All of whom would provoke a negative response from fans. You can't endorse any of them. Football clubs are meant to be apolitical. Ashton has allowed a political party to make a promotional video using the club's brand and property. The club represents a broad church and if he is indeed responsible he needs to do one. |  |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:07 - Mar 26 with 1864 views | TheMoralMajority |
Jesus christ.
For the umpteeth time it's not about f'ing reform. It's about platforming a political party, *any* political party, denying it, lying about it and gaslighting the fans, all whilst claiming to be 'apolitical'
Sure, carry on with the "whataboutery" if you want, serves no purpose.
We all, as fans, have been taken for absolute mugs. You may be ok with that. I am not.
There are those on the right who will go "yeah, but, what about Starmer, what about the Greens".
There are those on the left who will scream to high heaven "Farage is a Nazi!!".
None of these are the point (and neither side really do any service to the real issue)
OUR CLUB IS NOT A POLITICAL MOUTHPIECE
WE ARE NOT HERE TO HAVE OUR MONEY TAKEN OFF US AND BE LIED TO.
REPEATEDLY. |  |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:07 - Mar 26 with 1854 views | bluester |
Is anyone stopping anyone from having their say? | | | |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:12 - Mar 26 with 1752 views | Swansea_Blue |
“this board is still a festering hole of bile and vitriol.”
Missing the point by a mile. Most on the board are speaking out AGAINST bile and vitriol. It reflects very well on our fans that we don’t want to be associated with a person like Farage. I’m proud to see us reject hate, division, racism and homophobia. [Post edited 26 Mar 22:12]
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:12 - Mar 26 with 1743 views | mistert |
The same principles should apply. However, the difference is that no other main party leader would have tried to pull a stunt like this and make such shameless political capital, so your question becomes entirely hypothetical
If Nigel Farage was a genuine supporter or our local MP then I could hardly object in the slightest to him having a season ticket or attending matches. It's the lies and the shameful misuse and disrespect for our badge that I object to. [Post edited 26 Mar 22:27]
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:15 - Mar 26 with 1666 views | waveneyblue |
How dare you suggest such a balanced view.
Don't you know the rules here ? |  | | |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:18 - Mar 26 with 1564 views | Illinoisblue |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:15 - Mar 26 by waveneyblue |
How dare you suggest such a balanced view.
Don't you know the rules here ? |
None so blind as those who cannot see. |  |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:18 - Mar 26 with 1553 views | Swansea_Blue |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:15 - Mar 26 by waveneyblue |
How dare you suggest such a balanced view.
Don't you know the rules here ? |
It’s not. It’s a load of nonsense. Starts of complaining about free speach while being given a platform to speak and then goes down hill from there. | |
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| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:19 - Mar 26 with 1507 views | Butterbing |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:15 - Mar 26 by waveneyblue |
How dare you suggest such a balanced view.
Don't you know the rules here ? |
Balanced? Now you're really trolling. | | | |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:20 - Mar 26 with 1499 views | jasondozzell |
Obtuse post.
Does the club exist to represent the players and supporters or is it a plaything, a vehicle to be used for the promotion of political views? |  | | |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:21 - Mar 26 with 1454 views | waveneyblue |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:18 - Mar 26 by Illinoisblue |
None so blind as those who cannot see. |
Lovely stuff.
Got another ? | | | |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:24 - Mar 26 with 1380 views | vapour_trail |
| I see freedom of speech is irrelevant here on 22:21 - Mar 26 by waveneyblue |
Lovely stuff.
Got another ? |
Got another - suggests trolling.
Question for you Waveney. Has anything you’ve read today from the new reports had any impact on your view of the situation, the club or our response? | |
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