Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? 22:37 - Sep 14 with 2870 views | 3_5_2 | One thing which is obvious is the owners will have a limited amount of time before pulling the plug and Ashton would lose no sleep doing it. None of us realistically expected to win every game but Christ, this is getting serious now. We look completely rudderless and I’m dreading Lincoln away Saturday Would take a draw right here and now but can’t see it happening Cook must be under pressure from above surely? [Post edited 14 Sep 2021 22:39]
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:39 - Sep 14 with 2823 views | BanksterDebtSlave | Maybe... ....maybe not. |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:39 - Sep 14 with 2812 views | RonFearonsHair | I've gone from being sick to the back teeth of dull 0-0 draws to absolutely craving one. |  | |  |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:42 - Sep 14 with 2758 views | unstableblue | Lincoln is frightening - it should test the squad resolve, but I think the players heads have gone. Gamechanger will be worried, BUT they have committed to patience, O Leary will be advising that premature manager change can be bad, there is a record of managers having been given time can often prosper. But critically they’ll only sack Cook if we continue lose even when Morsy, Celina are playing. For me though time is running out - we have to beat Doncaster. A draw Saturday would be positive. A clean sheet brilliant. |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:45 - Sep 14 with 2712 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:42 - Sep 14 by unstableblue | Lincoln is frightening - it should test the squad resolve, but I think the players heads have gone. Gamechanger will be worried, BUT they have committed to patience, O Leary will be advising that premature manager change can be bad, there is a record of managers having been given time can often prosper. But critically they’ll only sack Cook if we continue lose even when Morsy, Celina are playing. For me though time is running out - we have to beat Doncaster. A draw Saturday would be positive. A clean sheet brilliant. |
If we haven't won by the end of the month he will be gone. Cook has had half a season now, no one will bat an eye lid if he was sacked. |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:46 - Sep 14 with 2705 views | BlueBadger |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:42 - Sep 14 by unstableblue | Lincoln is frightening - it should test the squad resolve, but I think the players heads have gone. Gamechanger will be worried, BUT they have committed to patience, O Leary will be advising that premature manager change can be bad, there is a record of managers having been given time can often prosper. But critically they’ll only sack Cook if we continue lose even when Morsy, Celina are playing. For me though time is running out - we have to beat Doncaster. A draw Saturday would be positive. A clean sheet brilliant. |
Christ alive. |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 23:19 - Sep 14 with 2545 views | MaySixth | No. |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 23:21 - Sep 14 with 2525 views | unstableblue |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:45 - Sep 14 by Marshalls_Mullet | If we haven't won by the end of the month he will be gone. Cook has had half a season now, no one will bat an eye lid if he was sacked. |
If we don’t win against Doncaster he has to go I’m afraid It’s the MUST win game we’ve all been waiting for |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 23:32 - Sep 14 with 2472 views | timothyeo | I mean, from a more medium term outlook, and I'm hesitant to say this, a rough patch at the start might not be the worst thing from an ownership point of view. I know people don't like to hear negatives about our new owners but within English football, American investors and owners are internally ridiculed for having this preconceived idea that its actually quite easy, that English football is this massive cash cow that simply needs milking. That they've stumbled badly at the first hurdle with Cook might be a bit of a slap in the face to not take our club for granted. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 23:58 - Sep 14 with 2335 views | rgp1 | Hes in big trouble I think. Interesting that in his interview tonight he said Celina is available Saturday. I thought he was going to take a few weeks to get up to speed if he has been Ill. Sounds a bit desperate to me. |  | |  |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 00:00 - Sep 15 with 2315 views | eireblue |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:39 - Sep 14 by RonFearonsHair | I've gone from being sick to the back teeth of dull 0-0 draws to absolutely craving one. |
Hmmmm, we could try not scoring first…. |  | |  |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 00:03 - Sep 15 with 2303 views | pointofblue |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 00:00 - Sep 15 by eireblue | Hmmmm, we could try not scoring first…. |
Doesn't work either - see Morecambe, Newport and Burton. |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 00:27 - Sep 15 with 2219 views | Illinoisblue |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 23:58 - Sep 14 by rgp1 | Hes in big trouble I think. Interesting that in his interview tonight he said Celina is available Saturday. I thought he was going to take a few weeks to get up to speed if he has been Ill. Sounds a bit desperate to me. |
No. He said a week ago that Celina would be available for Lincoln away |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 01:24 - Sep 15 with 2051 views | HARRY10 | Pressure ? To what end ? If Cook had the ability, he would have shown it by now (23 games) I don't doubt he is doing his absolute best, as are others. Much as 'Eddie the Eagle' was when ski jumping. But could Eddie have jumped any better had there been pressure put on him ? I don't doubt that there are various targets etc, some if not met would lead to sacking. But I doubt they are solely based on league position at this stage. However there will undoubtedly be questions being raised about the goalkeeping situation where Hladky was brought in and is not even deemed good enough to sit on the bench for league games, Players looking 'lost' on the pitch. If the squad looks to be developing and improving then it will just have to be a matter of giving it more time. Unfortunately things seem to be getting worse. No sense of Cook having a settled side, or how to cope with the opposition changing things round in the second half. Eddie the Eagles distance was pretty much the same each time he jumped, woefully short. Much as with Cooks management - and nothing suggests it will change. |  | |  |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 06:21 - Sep 15 with 1837 views | textbackup |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:42 - Sep 14 by unstableblue | Lincoln is frightening - it should test the squad resolve, but I think the players heads have gone. Gamechanger will be worried, BUT they have committed to patience, O Leary will be advising that premature manager change can be bad, there is a record of managers having been given time can often prosper. But critically they’ll only sack Cook if we continue lose even when Morsy, Celina are playing. For me though time is running out - we have to beat Doncaster. A draw Saturday would be positive. A clean sheet brilliant. |
How can a new squad have their heads gone already, after 7/8 games? Heard about 35 interviews now where Ashton tells us how they look into players and their mentalities, surely we have put together a bunch of blokes that look good on a football manager game? If the new lot are as weak and pointless as the old lot, but score a few more goals whilst conceding even more, then that (I’m affraid) falls in the laps of those that signed them all. Fwiw I think Morsy will end up losing his sht and fly into tackles left right and centre, and refs and this level will send him off more often than not |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 06:51 - Sep 15 with 1729 views | chicoazul |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 22:42 - Sep 14 by unstableblue | Lincoln is frightening - it should test the squad resolve, but I think the players heads have gone. Gamechanger will be worried, BUT they have committed to patience, O Leary will be advising that premature manager change can be bad, there is a record of managers having been given time can often prosper. But critically they’ll only sack Cook if we continue lose even when Morsy, Celina are playing. For me though time is running out - we have to beat Doncaster. A draw Saturday would be positive. A clean sheet brilliant. |
Hahahah What has the world come to when a 0-0 away to Lincoln is described as “brilliant” You have to laugh |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 08:18 - Sep 15 with 1508 views | itfcjoe |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 06:21 - Sep 15 by textbackup | How can a new squad have their heads gone already, after 7/8 games? Heard about 35 interviews now where Ashton tells us how they look into players and their mentalities, surely we have put together a bunch of blokes that look good on a football manager game? If the new lot are as weak and pointless as the old lot, but score a few more goals whilst conceding even more, then that (I’m affraid) falls in the laps of those that signed them all. Fwiw I think Morsy will end up losing his sht and fly into tackles left right and centre, and refs and this level will send him off more often than not |
And when you see us getting outcoached all you hear is need to 'work harder', 'show more desire' and other such bobbins - which whilst being important is not the reason we are losing. You can show as much desire as you want v Bolton, but if they just stick widemen in areas of the pitch that are totally free and drag you around then you are in trouble |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 08:35 - Sep 15 with 1450 views | mylittletown | I would hope that Ashton is under severe pressure from above. So far, he has presided over a complete stuff up. Cook will be the first fall guy, but O'Leary and Ashton allowed the wholesale demolition of the squad, the signing of almost two entire teams and the assembly of an apparently hopeless coaching staff. |  | |  |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 08:36 - Sep 15 with 1440 views | saffers12 |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 08:18 - Sep 15 by itfcjoe | And when you see us getting outcoached all you hear is need to 'work harder', 'show more desire' and other such bobbins - which whilst being important is not the reason we are losing. You can show as much desire as you want v Bolton, but if they just stick widemen in areas of the pitch that are totally free and drag you around then you are in trouble |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 08:39 - Sep 15 with 1413 views | ElderGrizzly | Cook isn't their appointee. I don't think they or Ashton will bat an eyelid to remove him and bring in their own people. Ashton always talked about having 4 replacements for every position. It would be naïve to think he doesn't have the same for the manager. |  | |  |
This is KEY POINT on 10:24 - Sep 15 with 1230 views | unstableblue |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 08:18 - Sep 15 by itfcjoe | And when you see us getting outcoached all you hear is need to 'work harder', 'show more desire' and other such bobbins - which whilst being important is not the reason we are losing. You can show as much desire as you want v Bolton, but if they just stick widemen in areas of the pitch that are totally free and drag you around then you are in trouble |
We have the better players on paper But we are tactically inept at present And the players heads and confidence have gone.... The issue Cook is raising is that he thinks he has set out the right formulae and player are simply not giving the energy and focus to it I do think there is something in this Joe.... those first 3 Bolton goals could be seen as tactical or player error.. its a mix in my mind But we do look to loose at present |  |
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This is KEY POINT on 10:42 - Sep 15 with 1168 views | Pinewoodblue |
This is KEY POINT on 10:24 - Sep 15 by unstableblue | We have the better players on paper But we are tactically inept at present And the players heads and confidence have gone.... The issue Cook is raising is that he thinks he has set out the right formulae and player are simply not giving the energy and focus to it I do think there is something in this Joe.... those first 3 Bolton goals could be seen as tactical or player error.. its a mix in my mind But we do look to loose at present |
To get out of this, or any , division you have to assemble a good enough squad and then get the best out of them. We are half way there but don’t seem to have any clue about the second part of that. Take yesterday’s team selection a wasted opportunity. Instead of looking to build key partnerships he abdicated responsibility choosing instead to leave it to players, not selected in the last game, to show they were worthy of selection for Lincoln. Cook failed last season and is doing it again. You always want a manager to succeed, even if you aren’t particularly happy about their appointment. I haven’t really liked any of the appointments since Joe Royle but honestly thought PC was the right choice. Guess I was wrong. |  |
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This is KEY POINT on 11:50 - Sep 15 with 1062 views | BlueBadger |
This is KEY POINT on 10:24 - Sep 15 by unstableblue | We have the better players on paper But we are tactically inept at present And the players heads and confidence have gone.... The issue Cook is raising is that he thinks he has set out the right formulae and player are simply not giving the energy and focus to it I do think there is something in this Joe.... those first 3 Bolton goals could be seen as tactical or player error.. its a mix in my mind But we do look to loose at present |
What a terribly unlucky chap Paul Cook must be to have had TWO whole squads full of players that won't play for him. I wonder if there's a common root to it? |  |
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Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 14:50 - Sep 15 with 952 views | HARRY10 |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 08:39 - Sep 15 by ElderGrizzly | Cook isn't their appointee. I don't think they or Ashton will bat an eyelid to remove him and bring in their own people. Ashton always talked about having 4 replacements for every position. It would be naïve to think he doesn't have the same for the manager. |
eh ? Of course Cook is their appointment. The negotiations had been ongoing for some while (up to a year), so the idea that Evans would then appoint a new manager days before the takeover is absurd. The real intent of the three stooges and the others is what counts. I cannot see any great sums being earned by being promoted to the Championship. Not any amount that would service the loans and deliver a healthy profit at the same time. The cost of assembling another squad to challenge for promotion appears to be way above the budget seen so far. Even basic maintenance has been held back, with only the worst of Evans neglect being addressed. Is the reasoning there that this work will become cheaper the longer it is left, or that there is not the money available ? The squad assembled does not smack of huge spending, and what wages were freed up by departures, and the £3m (?) from player sales would not require a huge amount to top up the signings made. The question that throws up, is how much could we raise in January if there was a need to raise money ? Not that we would, as this is more a question of the value of the squad than any financial shortfall. Hladky, Holy, Evans, Barry, Chaplin, Penney, Nolan, KVY...... we would be lucky to give away any of them. Mediocrity runs right through the squad - as has been seen in the 8 competitive games so far. |  | |  |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 14:59 - Sep 15 with 924 views | PhilTWTD |
Do you think Gamechanger are exerting pressure on Cook via Ashton yet? on 14:50 - Sep 15 by HARRY10 | eh ? Of course Cook is their appointment. The negotiations had been ongoing for some while (up to a year), so the idea that Evans would then appoint a new manager days before the takeover is absurd. The real intent of the three stooges and the others is what counts. I cannot see any great sums being earned by being promoted to the Championship. Not any amount that would service the loans and deliver a healthy profit at the same time. The cost of assembling another squad to challenge for promotion appears to be way above the budget seen so far. Even basic maintenance has been held back, with only the worst of Evans neglect being addressed. Is the reasoning there that this work will become cheaper the longer it is left, or that there is not the money available ? The squad assembled does not smack of huge spending, and what wages were freed up by departures, and the £3m (?) from player sales would not require a huge amount to top up the signings made. The question that throws up, is how much could we raise in January if there was a need to raise money ? Not that we would, as this is more a question of the value of the squad than any financial shortfall. Hladky, Holy, Evans, Barry, Chaplin, Penney, Nolan, KVY...... we would be lucky to give away any of them. Mediocrity runs right through the squad - as has been seen in the 8 competitive games so far. |
He really wasn't. He was Evans's appointment. He hadn't made the decision to sell at that point. Indeed, he decided literally a couple of days before it was confirmed. |  | |  |
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