| WTF has happened to this Country? 12:35 - Jan 27 with 13459 views | TalkingBlues |
I can't believe how poor just about everything is in the UK, I have honestly never felt so depressed about living and working in this Country, I now truly appreciate why people are so keen to move abroad.
Every company you deal with is out to screw you over and you need to be a Consumer Contracts expert just to get what you're entitled to, as the standard line now appears to be to mis-sell and misinform customers. Service sector? My God, it's non existent and couriers, WTAF is going on there!?!?! I am struggling to continue to operate a business due to the sheer quantity of failed collections/deliveries from a variety of couriers, blue chip (lol) and other, leading to customer cancellations and refunds. They all say the same thing "can't get drivers due to Brexit" these appear to be some of the unappreciated consequences for small businesses such as mine, we have the same issue trying to find Lorry Drivers, massive shortage and a huge hike in wages as a result of the demand also crippling profits.
I've not even mentioned the strikes of just about every industry in the UK, poor pay, poor living conditions, huge wealth inequality etc etc etc. For the first time in my life, I truly feel that the UK has "had it" it's finished, we have been well and truly flushed down the sh1tter and I just don't know how we are going to get out of a mess this big, it's scary, I am genuinely mortified at what lies ahead for my kids.
How the hell have we allowed all this to happen? |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 12:52 - Jan 27 with 5803 views | Lord_Lucan |
I'm one of those stiff upper lip and get on with it boring bastards and I get instantly annoyed when I hear people running my great country down.....
.....but yes, it's all a bit sh1t isn't it. It's like the 70's revisited.
Everything is broken.
I can't really speak for other countries as I have no first hand experience however my good friend Lorenzo the Italian Stallion says it's the same there and another old friend has decided to emigrate from Germany to Canada because he reckons it's all broken there as well.
Things were sort of heading this way a few years back but Covid has really screwed the coffin lid down. The effects of Covid will linger for years and years |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 12:58 - Jan 27 with 5757 views | NthQldITFC |
It's the pressures of over-population and the deep-seated, almost universal, idiocy of believing that a system which relies on perpetual growth in a finite world can remain stable.
Emperor's new clothes.
Couple that with a human brain which can't handle its new tools, and half of the population have shut down in a tech-obsessed zombie state without even realising it. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:20 - Jan 27 with 5601 views | TalkingBlues |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 12:52 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
I'm one of those stiff upper lip and get on with it boring bastards and I get instantly annoyed when I hear people running my great country down.....
.....but yes, it's all a bit sh1t isn't it. It's like the 70's revisited.
Everything is broken.
I can't really speak for other countries as I have no first hand experience however my good friend Lorenzo the Italian Stallion says it's the same there and another old friend has decided to emigrate from Germany to Canada because he reckons it's all broken there as well.
Things were sort of heading this way a few years back but Covid has really screwed the coffin lid down. The effects of Covid will linger for years and years |
I think you're right, it was definitely headed this way, but retrievable, until Covid.
Makes me so angry when I look at the huge sums of taxpayer money effectively gifted to Politicians and their mates (even fookin pub landlords ffs) and straight into organised crime groups via the mental PPE and "Covid bounce back loans scheme" not insignificant sums either, but £6 Billion/£7 Billion misappropriated, unbelievable really, £4.5 Billion fraudulently claimed they reckon, applications never checked, PPE that didn't meet basic specifications etc etc. The team set up by HMRC (at massive cost) to recover the money from fraudulent claims shut down due to their complete inability to actually recover anything. Honestly, I can't understand why there hasn't been a film about it, you couldn't make a lot of this stuff up and the fact that it actually took place, is fantasy come to life. The Covid escape from lab and International outbreak to the global daylight robbery occurring behind it, is actually completely mental when you think about it, it's the biggest heist that has ever taken place. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:20 - Jan 27 with 5601 views | homer_123 |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 12:52 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
I'm one of those stiff upper lip and get on with it boring bastards and I get instantly annoyed when I hear people running my great country down.....
.....but yes, it's all a bit sh1t isn't it. It's like the 70's revisited.
Everything is broken.
I can't really speak for other countries as I have no first hand experience however my good friend Lorenzo the Italian Stallion says it's the same there and another old friend has decided to emigrate from Germany to Canada because he reckons it's all broken there as well.
Things were sort of heading this way a few years back but Covid has really screwed the coffin lid down. The effects of Covid will linger for years and years |
With ya Lucs.
I hate to see people run down this country - would be very interesting to see how people coped abroad. Even other so called westernised countries.
There's an assumption the grass is always greener and it isn't.
That said, I also agree, it is feeling very 70s at the moment and we certainly have got ourselves into a right mess, much our own doing. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:29 - Jan 27 with 5514 views | Slimitfc91 |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 12:58 - Jan 27 by NthQldITFC |
It's the pressures of over-population and the deep-seated, almost universal, idiocy of believing that a system which relies on perpetual growth in a finite world can remain stable.
Emperor's new clothes.
Couple that with a human brain which can't handle its new tools, and half of the population have shut down in a tech-obsessed zombie state without even realising it. |
Population of just over 68 million, on a land mass half the size of countries like France or Spain, we are full up |  | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:31 - Jan 27 with 5495 views | Bluesky |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 12:58 - Jan 27 by NthQldITFC |
It's the pressures of over-population and the deep-seated, almost universal, idiocy of believing that a system which relies on perpetual growth in a finite world can remain stable.
Emperor's new clothes.
Couple that with a human brain which can't handle its new tools, and half of the population have shut down in a tech-obsessed zombie state without even realising it. |
Nailed it. Add in dismal education standards over the last twenty years. |  | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:31 - Jan 27 with 5505 views | sotd78 |
Ken Clarke on Radio 4 World At One has just in one sentence told us the fix: get a free trade agreement with the EC.
Of course that's a simplistic comment. Because it implies accepting all the rules that we had before Brexit but with none of the advantages like the veto and the rebate. At some point - possibly two years into a Labour Govt we'll do a deal. So about another four more years of sh!t. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:33 - Jan 27 with 5455 views | EdwardStone |
I think this was foretold in the Book of Revelations ...the very End of Times
The 4 harbingers of doom.... the 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse are
1 Pestilence.... global disease; Covid
2 War.... Putin's invasion of Ukraine
3 Famine .... Hunger caused by austerity, climate change, war, Covid and general inflation
brought about by Brexit
4 Farage.... (and Johnson, Trump) blowhard gobsh1tes puffed up on vanity and stupidity
with literally nothing to offer the human race |  | | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:33 - Jan 27 with 5437 views | StochesStotasBlewe |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:20 - Jan 27 by homer_123 |
With ya Lucs.
I hate to see people run down this country - would be very interesting to see how people coped abroad. Even other so called westernised countries.
There's an assumption the grass is always greener and it isn't.
That said, I also agree, it is feeling very 70s at the moment and we certainly have got ourselves into a right mess, much our own doing. |
Indeed.
Two different sets of good friends have moved to different parts of rural France in the last year or so and both are having doubts about how wise their decisions have been. Prices on the rise like here, not being able to work and indifference from some of the locals appear to have put the dampener on things a tad.
On the flip side, another friend of mine moved to rural Spain and hasn’t regretted it for a moment.
Our country has many problems but it would appear most of our neighbours and further afield are having it tough also to a greater or lesser degree. |  |
| We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub. |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:34 - Jan 27 with 5414 views | thebooks |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 12:52 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
I'm one of those stiff upper lip and get on with it boring bastards and I get instantly annoyed when I hear people running my great country down.....
.....but yes, it's all a bit sh1t isn't it. It's like the 70's revisited.
Everything is broken.
I can't really speak for other countries as I have no first hand experience however my good friend Lorenzo the Italian Stallion says it's the same there and another old friend has decided to emigrate from Germany to Canada because he reckons it's all broken there as well.
Things were sort of heading this way a few years back but Covid has really screwed the coffin lid down. The effects of Covid will linger for years and years |
Like the 70s, only without the high wages, free university education and functioning health service. |  | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:35 - Jan 27 with 5398 views | clive_baker |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 12:52 - Jan 27 by Lord_Lucan |
I'm one of those stiff upper lip and get on with it boring bastards and I get instantly annoyed when I hear people running my great country down.....
.....but yes, it's all a bit sh1t isn't it. It's like the 70's revisited.
Everything is broken.
I can't really speak for other countries as I have no first hand experience however my good friend Lorenzo the Italian Stallion says it's the same there and another old friend has decided to emigrate from Germany to Canada because he reckons it's all broken there as well.
Things were sort of heading this way a few years back but Covid has really screwed the coffin lid down. The effects of Covid will linger for years and years |
Europe's certainly in a sticky spot, while the talk is of the war between Russia and Ukraine it's arguably Europe that's at war. That's certainly the way a lot of the US sees it and the Capital markets right now. There's a lot of negative sentiment to Europe, a lack of investment, hyperinflation, and we're more exposed to the volatile fuel costs. The wider macroeconomic outlook is pretty bleak. I think a lot of Europe feels the same pain, but probably more so here as we've decided to cut our arm off by leaving the EU and we've been governed by a party of self serving charlatans for the past 12 years.
Public services in this country are massively underfunded and underpaid, but the public purse is empty. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:42 - Jan 27 with 5285 views | Darth_Koont |
This is decades coming.
Rather than see the UK and the world for what they are, the vast majority of politicians, lobbyists and media outlets have been pushing narratives for their own and their paymasters selfish interests.
The result has been little attention paid to the underlying, structural issues in the UK. From dangerously low productivity, wage stagnation, cost and availability of housing, regional imbalances, massive wealth inequality including up to 5 million kids living in poverty, low investment in infrastructure, the importance of immigration and free trade, regional imbalances and so on and so on.
Instead we get the same neoliberal hogwash about growth providing the answer (even when it clearly didn’t and clearly can’t in an economic downturn). The media and politicians will of course blame (red v blue) or Covid, Putin or whatever. But we should be blaming them for being utterly crap at actually working for the country’s best interests.
It’s obvious we need wholescale political and possibly media reform or we’ll never escape this rut. Just sleepwalk to the next crisis largely of our own making while the status quo-defenders wring their hands and shaft millions of people even more. Or diverting attention with culture wars and othering of minorities who are already under the cosh for that nice early-30s Germany vibe.
And all this while we are lagging behind in addressing the REAL global challenges and opportunities ...
Happy Friday anyway! 😀 |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:44 - Jan 27 with 5257 views | thebooks |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:35 - Jan 27 by clive_baker |
Europe's certainly in a sticky spot, while the talk is of the war between Russia and Ukraine it's arguably Europe that's at war. That's certainly the way a lot of the US sees it and the Capital markets right now. There's a lot of negative sentiment to Europe, a lack of investment, hyperinflation, and we're more exposed to the volatile fuel costs. The wider macroeconomic outlook is pretty bleak. I think a lot of Europe feels the same pain, but probably more so here as we've decided to cut our arm off by leaving the EU and we've been governed by a party of self serving charlatans for the past 12 years.
Public services in this country are massively underfunded and underpaid, but the public purse is empty. |
The public purse is not "empty".
One of the causes of our current malaise is this belief that services can **never** be afforded. It's nonsense. | | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:45 - Jan 27 with 5253 views | Swansea_Blue |
Bit of a mess innit. Covid's only part of the problem and something that in theory we should be able to recover from. Some of the other issues are more structural as a result of warped ideologies and sh*t policies. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:48 - Jan 27 with 5227 views | homer_123 |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:35 - Jan 27 by clive_baker |
Europe's certainly in a sticky spot, while the talk is of the war between Russia and Ukraine it's arguably Europe that's at war. That's certainly the way a lot of the US sees it and the Capital markets right now. There's a lot of negative sentiment to Europe, a lack of investment, hyperinflation, and we're more exposed to the volatile fuel costs. The wider macroeconomic outlook is pretty bleak. I think a lot of Europe feels the same pain, but probably more so here as we've decided to cut our arm off by leaving the EU and we've been governed by a party of self serving charlatans for the past 12 years.
Public services in this country are massively underfunded and underpaid, but the public purse is empty. |
Yet, given the choice, the public deigned continuing with said Government better, largely, because the though of paying more tax was abhorrent.
If you want decent public services, they have to be paid for.
Note: not against trying to ensure public money is spent wisely and not inefficiently by the government [Post edited 27 Jan 2023 13:50]
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:49 - Jan 27 with 5211 views | homer_123 |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:45 - Jan 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Bit of a mess innit. Covid's only part of the problem and something that in theory we should be able to recover from. Some of the other issues are more structural as a result of warped ideologies and sh*t policies. |
Agreed, Covid hasn't helped but to place the blame entirely there is wrong. This is a long long standing situation coming to the fore. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:57 - Jan 27 with 5123 views | Churchman |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:31 - Jan 27 by sotd78 |
Ken Clarke on Radio 4 World At One has just in one sentence told us the fix: get a free trade agreement with the EC.
Of course that's a simplistic comment. Because it implies accepting all the rules that we had before Brexit but with none of the advantages like the veto and the rebate. At some point - possibly two years into a Labour Govt we'll do a deal. So about another four more years of sh!t. |
SM and CU would not solve all the problems, but it’d be one heck of a start. It doesn’t matter about the stupidity and madness of the past. It’s what’s done now that counts. Not got much time for Clarke, but he is right.
Most things in this country are rubbish at the moment. Bad news heaped on bad news. But most of the people aren’t rubbish. We can do better. But it requires leadership and that won’t happen until the dregs who run the country are replaced by people who are there to represent their constituents and do something for the people across the country, should they achieve high office.
My tax /investigator friend was told by the dude in charge of Parliamentary standards a couple of years ago that MPs all have to be treated like naughty schoolchildren. Where they can take liberties, they will. What an inditement of our pathetic politicians. |  | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:57 - Jan 27 with 5123 views | clive_baker |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:44 - Jan 27 by thebooks |
The public purse is not "empty".
One of the causes of our current malaise is this belief that services can **never** be afforded. It's nonsense. |
I've never said those services can't ever be afforded, but we now have a level of debt the equivalent to 1 years GDP, or £35,000 for every man, woman and child in the UK. Sadly we have a government who have led the country to a £50bn Brexit bill plus the associated car crash and spent Covid giving backhanders to mates. There's money, but not under this government who seem intent on misallocating it. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:00 - Jan 27 with 5098 views | Herbivore |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:35 - Jan 27 by clive_baker |
Europe's certainly in a sticky spot, while the talk is of the war between Russia and Ukraine it's arguably Europe that's at war. That's certainly the way a lot of the US sees it and the Capital markets right now. There's a lot of negative sentiment to Europe, a lack of investment, hyperinflation, and we're more exposed to the volatile fuel costs. The wider macroeconomic outlook is pretty bleak. I think a lot of Europe feels the same pain, but probably more so here as we've decided to cut our arm off by leaving the EU and we've been governed by a party of self serving charlatans for the past 12 years.
Public services in this country are massively underfunded and underpaid, but the public purse is empty. |
The public purse is empty despite us having the highest tax burden on the general public in many years. Which begs the question, in such a large, wealthy (by global standards) economy, where is all the money going? The government is pleading poverty, the public sector has been stripped back and those working in it have seen stagnant (or worse) pay for over a decade, higher education is in a similar state, infrastructure isn't fit for purpose, the list goes on. And yet, big business continues to flourish and the top 1% continue to see their wealth increase, exponentially in some cases. It's almost like our economic and political systems aren't fit for purpose. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:03 - Jan 27 with 5057 views | clive_baker |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:00 - Jan 27 by Herbivore |
The public purse is empty despite us having the highest tax burden on the general public in many years. Which begs the question, in such a large, wealthy (by global standards) economy, where is all the money going? The government is pleading poverty, the public sector has been stripped back and those working in it have seen stagnant (or worse) pay for over a decade, higher education is in a similar state, infrastructure isn't fit for purpose, the list goes on. And yet, big business continues to flourish and the top 1% continue to see their wealth increase, exponentially in some cases. It's almost like our economic and political systems aren't fit for purpose. |
Quite, the tax system is fooked and the government we've been treated to for the past 12 years have been too busy spunking it on themselves, their mates, their personal business interests and decision making that is ultimately designed to help the few rather than the many. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:06 - Jan 27 with 5017 views | HARRY10 |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:45 - Jan 27 by Swansea_Blue |
Bit of a mess innit. Covid's only part of the problem and something that in theory we should be able to recover from. Some of the other issues are more structural as a result of warped ideologies and sh*t policies. |
"The country is full up... baa baa... master knows best.... baa baa ...they need us more than we need them "
There is a massive housing shortage. We have a government happy ro pay out billions for sub standard shoddy housing, rather than use that money to build decent homes.
A policy of privatisation whereby money goes to shareholders and executives, not providing the service...water, rail
A belief that everything can be cheaper, so we get mickey mouse courier companies undercutting each other and delivering a shoddy service, food, clothing and other goods, obliging awful work practices and low wages
That we have the worst bunch of unscrupolous shysters in government is because the voters put them there. If someone has been a lying cnt all his adult life and throughout his political career he is not going to change just because he is PM, or he has set up another 'company' to fleece voters.
Time we paid a bit more attention to experts, not liars. Those in charge of our health, tasked with looking after the environment, our kids at school, caring for the old.... not shtehawks who spew out lies in order to get elected.
It is voters who have facilitated this, it is voters who need to change themselves and then change how things operate.. | | | |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:12 - Jan 27 with 4977 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:31 - Jan 27 by sotd78 |
Ken Clarke on Radio 4 World At One has just in one sentence told us the fix: get a free trade agreement with the EC.
Of course that's a simplistic comment. Because it implies accepting all the rules that we had before Brexit but with none of the advantages like the veto and the rebate. At some point - possibly two years into a Labour Govt we'll do a deal. So about another four more years of sh!t. |
Yes it was definitely milk and honey for all pre Brexit. |  |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:19 - Jan 27 with 4928 views | Herbivore |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:12 - Jan 27 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Yes it was definitely milk and honey for all pre Brexit. |
Nobody is claiming that, but burying your head in the sand and thinking Brexit is a solution rather than a problem isn't going to get us very far either. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:21 - Jan 27 with 4904 views | Swansea_Blue |
| WTF has happened to this Country? on 13:57 - Jan 27 by clive_baker |
I've never said those services can't ever be afforded, but we now have a level of debt the equivalent to 1 years GDP, or £35,000 for every man, woman and child in the UK. Sadly we have a government who have led the country to a £50bn Brexit bill plus the associated car crash and spent Covid giving backhanders to mates. There's money, but not under this government who seem intent on misallocating it. |
That's it isn't it. They (we!) can afford the cost of their warped ideologies, kick backs and incompetence. Decent services are affordable if prioritised aren't they (at least to the point of being better, if not necessarily perfect).
Anyway on the point of rising prices, it cost me nearly £9 for a sandwich bag of crisps and a coffee yesterday on campus - ridiculous. And that's supposedly subsidised. World's gone mad. | |
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| WTF has happened to this Country? on 14:27 - Jan 27 with 4868 views | ElephantintheRoom |
You need to listen to Jeremy Hunt’s speech this morning. Everything is utterly wonderful | |
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