| Led by Donkeys sting 18:55 - Mar 25 with 4188 views | BrianTablet |
Yeah, this may show the unending greed of Tory MPs and their sheer disdain for their role as Member of Parliament at a time of financial toil for many, but Corbyn...
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| Led by Donkeys sting on 19:16 - Mar 25 with 3097 views | BlueNomad |
They continue to surpass themselves |  | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 19:24 - Mar 25 with 3077 views | GeoffSentence |
Got to prepare for losing their job. |  |
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| Led by Donkeys sting on 19:45 - Mar 25 with 3034 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 19:16 - Mar 25 by BlueNomad |
They continue to surpass themselves |
Given Kwarteng’s economics, i’m surprised he didn’t offer to pay them |  | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 19:59 - Mar 25 with 3004 views | le2blue |
Not sure it's much of a revelation that MPs will do anything for cash. A lot of them take money from lobbying and most have second jobs. |  | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 20:00 - Mar 25 with 3003 views | Swansea_Blue |
It’s worth pointing out that additional income is endemic whatever the party. I don’t mean that as whataboutery, as it’s an issue for parliament as a whole. It’s a difficult one to deal with though, as some roles for MPs could well be useful. Then there are those who are just about grabbing money for themselves, not using their expertise for ‘the greater good’ (
Kearteng though, thick as pig do doos  And Hancock £10k per day  |  |
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| Led by Donkeys sting on 23:55 - Mar 25 with 2784 views | tractordownsouth |
I love how Kwarteng initially quoted his 10k in dollars then quickly changed it to pound sterling.
He eventually remembered that we’re not in the immediate aftermath of his mini budget where the dollar was briefly worth more. |  |
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| Led by Donkeys sting on 09:38 - Mar 26 with 2408 views | EdwardStone |
Ten thou a day each
Bargain.... I need to hire in a couple of strapping lads to clear out the septic tank and flush through the drains..... cash in hand, natch.
This pair seem to have time on their hands and ready and willing to work
I just need to win the lottery and then I will contact them for availabilty
#Grifters gonna Grift |  | | |
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| Led by Donkeys sting on 09:51 - Mar 26 with 2359 views | MattinLondon |
In my naïvety I always thought that a MP, what with their Parliamentary duties such as reading and analysing bills etc. And helping the areas and people that they represent, would have little spare time for a second job. Obviously that’s a naïve view to hold.
I’m not against a MP getting valuable insights into how sectors operate in order to understand legislation but not as a way to simply line their pockets.
I thought that MPs weren’t allowed to blatantly use their parliamentary position to influence and advise a commercial company for their own profit? |  | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 10:23 - Mar 26 with 2267 views | noggin |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 09:51 - Mar 26 by MattinLondon |
In my naïvety I always thought that a MP, what with their Parliamentary duties such as reading and analysing bills etc. And helping the areas and people that they represent, would have little spare time for a second job. Obviously that’s a naïve view to hold.
I’m not against a MP getting valuable insights into how sectors operate in order to understand legislation but not as a way to simply line their pockets.
I thought that MPs weren’t allowed to blatantly use their parliamentary position to influence and advise a commercial company for their own profit? |
No consequences is the problem. Nobody really cares. |  |
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| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:19 - Mar 26 with 2176 views | gtsb1966 |
Someone offers me 10 grand a time to do something entirely within the rules am I going to turn it down? Of course not. Nothing to see here really . |  | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:25 - Mar 26 with 2149 views | Mullet |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:19 - Mar 26 by gtsb1966 |
Someone offers me 10 grand a time to do something entirely within the rules am I going to turn it down? Of course not. Nothing to see here really . |
Have you missed the billions of examples of corruption and greed on their watch? All whilst you and I pick up the tab?
Let alone hundreds of thousands of public servants denied real terms pay, whilst these ones barely do the job they're paid for and spend their time creaming it off like some tinpot banana republic.
There's a lot to see here, and the more people start lifting the rug up to take a look the more sickening it appears. |  |
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| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:29 - Mar 26 with 2121 views | gtsb1966 |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:25 - Mar 26 by Mullet |
Have you missed the billions of examples of corruption and greed on their watch? All whilst you and I pick up the tab?
Let alone hundreds of thousands of public servants denied real terms pay, whilst these ones barely do the job they're paid for and spend their time creaming it off like some tinpot banana republic.
There's a lot to see here, and the more people start lifting the rug up to take a look the more sickening it appears. |
I hate this government but it isn't about that. It's about individuals being offered a lot of money for little work which is something everyone on this forum would love. | | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:45 - Mar 26 with 2045 views | mrshallisfit |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:29 - Mar 26 by gtsb1966 |
I hate this government but it isn't about that. It's about individuals being offered a lot of money for little work which is something everyone on this forum would love. |
Yes but these people are public servants working for us. That's the difference. |  | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:58 - Mar 26 with 1994 views | mrshallisfit |
Looking at that clip you need to remember that Kwarteng was our Chancellor. Just let that sink in. How low have we gone with this lot. Hancock and Kwasi seem the most greedy. Probably because they must know they are on their last pay checks. | | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 12:29 - Mar 26 with 1907 views | HARRY10 |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:19 - Mar 26 by gtsb1966 |
Someone offers me 10 grand a time to do something entirely within the rules am I going to turn it down? Of course not. Nothing to see here really . |
Exceedingly silly, or perhaps just naive
Why do you think certain MPs are targeted, for their in depth knowledge of that company, or the field it trades in ? A numpty like Hancock perhaps, who .... err, just happened to have been
health secretary.
Now it's unlikely he carries a heap of facts and figures around in his head. But he will know those who do. Those that can influence decisions, award contracts etc.
That is why MPs are targetted. And the money they are paid is down to what it is worth to that company, not what it costs the MP. It might take a hours work to find out what certain criteria is in regard to a contract.
Does the MP charge for an hour's time, or does he/she charge a fee based on what it is worth to that company to land that contract ?
"Nothing to see here" sums it up. Corruption, sleaze malfeasance which saw health workers starved of life saving equipment....as it is supposedly 'within the rules' It's not so much OK, but should be lauded.
I have argued that the way o clean up politics starts within the house itself, whereas some cling to the bizarre notion that it is by having LESS scrutiny and accountability things will improve.
The comment replied to sums up that problem. Even when it is shown that questionable practices have unearthed, no action should be taken - in fact those accused deserve a pat on the back for exploiting their position for financial gain. | | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 12:45 - Mar 26 with 1857 views | gtsb1966 |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 12:29 - Mar 26 by HARRY10 |
Exceedingly silly, or perhaps just naive
Why do you think certain MPs are targeted, for their in depth knowledge of that company, or the field it trades in ? A numpty like Hancock perhaps, who .... err, just happened to have been
health secretary.
Now it's unlikely he carries a heap of facts and figures around in his head. But he will know those who do. Those that can influence decisions, award contracts etc.
That is why MPs are targetted. And the money they are paid is down to what it is worth to that company, not what it costs the MP. It might take a hours work to find out what certain criteria is in regard to a contract.
Does the MP charge for an hour's time, or does he/she charge a fee based on what it is worth to that company to land that contract ?
"Nothing to see here" sums it up. Corruption, sleaze malfeasance which saw health workers starved of life saving equipment....as it is supposedly 'within the rules' It's not so much OK, but should be lauded.
I have argued that the way o clean up politics starts within the house itself, whereas some cling to the bizarre notion that it is by having LESS scrutiny and accountability things will improve.
The comment replied to sums up that problem. Even when it is shown that questionable practices have unearthed, no action should be taken - in fact those accused deserve a pat on the back for exploiting their position for financial gain. |
Not naive or silly at all. I can't stand the MPs mentioned but it's hardly a 'sting' is it. They've legally not done anything wrong. It's a nothing story and if you could earn £10,000 for an hours work you would turn it down would you. Of course you wouldn't. | | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 12:50 - Mar 26 with 1837 views | eireblue |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:19 - Mar 26 by gtsb1966 |
Someone offers me 10 grand a time to do something entirely within the rules am I going to turn it down? Of course not. Nothing to see here really . |
I have employment contracts that don’t allow me to take a second job.
Ministers and MP’s really should be working for their constituents, not themselves.
That is the thing to see here. And it is going to be interesting to actually see it happening.
Nothing stopping an MP taking time out to learn about issues that are relevant to their work. |  | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 12:51 - Mar 26 with 1825 views | MattinLondon |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 12:45 - Mar 26 by gtsb1966 |
Not naive or silly at all. I can't stand the MPs mentioned but it's hardly a 'sting' is it. They've legally not done anything wrong. It's a nothing story and if you could earn £10,000 for an hours work you would turn it down would you. Of course you wouldn't. |
The difference being that they are paid to represent their constituents and to make their constituencies better. Not to swan off business class to South Korea to line their pockets. It’s just lining their own pockets and in a couple of years time they’ll no doubt be parachuted into the House of Lords for their services to public life. | | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 12:53 - Mar 26 with 1813 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 11:19 - Mar 26 by gtsb1966 |
Someone offers me 10 grand a time to do something entirely within the rules am I going to turn it down? Of course not. Nothing to see here really . |
Are you on £85k and the most generous expense allowance in the world? A nice paid for second home to build up some nice additional assets too.
It’s just greed plain and simple. | | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 14:02 - Mar 26 with 1713 views | HARRY10 |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 12:45 - Mar 26 by gtsb1966 |
Not naive or silly at all. I can't stand the MPs mentioned but it's hardly a 'sting' is it. They've legally not done anything wrong. It's a nothing story and if you could earn £10,000 for an hours work you would turn it down would you. Of course you wouldn't. |
Firstly you don't know what I would accept in the way of 'work' so don't tar me with your unprincipled attitude.
What do you think “help our clients navigate the shifting political, regulatory and legislative frameworks” means. And why was it phrased that way ?
It means can you help tip us off so as to benefit from being ahead of the game when regulation changes. If this stuff was freely available the MP could not ask £10,000.
All that was 'legal' is the MPs reported the approach. You would be a fool not to. They are warned about such stings. Those behind this would also know there is not much to be gained by this, without the inherent implications
Do you really think some investment group is going to be daft enough to hand over £10,000 for a days work, doing what ?
It should be clear to anyone why someone organisation would want to offer an MP a very large sum. It would be called insider trading elsewhere.
Disturbing to see your motivation is solely that based on greed. Perhaps when you are the victim of someone else's greed you might think again. | | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 14:11 - Mar 26 with 1697 views | gtsb1966 |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 14:02 - Mar 26 by HARRY10 |
Firstly you don't know what I would accept in the way of 'work' so don't tar me with your unprincipled attitude.
What do you think “help our clients navigate the shifting political, regulatory and legislative frameworks” means. And why was it phrased that way ?
It means can you help tip us off so as to benefit from being ahead of the game when regulation changes. If this stuff was freely available the MP could not ask £10,000.
All that was 'legal' is the MPs reported the approach. You would be a fool not to. They are warned about such stings. Those behind this would also know there is not much to be gained by this, without the inherent implications
Do you really think some investment group is going to be daft enough to hand over £10,000 for a days work, doing what ?
It should be clear to anyone why someone organisation would want to offer an MP a very large sum. It would be called insider trading elsewhere.
Disturbing to see your motivation is solely that based on greed. Perhaps when you are the victim of someone else's greed you might think again. |
So you're not denying you would take it then. | | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 14:15 - Mar 26 with 1681 views | J2BLUE |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 14:11 - Mar 26 by gtsb1966 |
So you're not denying you would take it then. |
This was a private company (or so they thought) basically asking to pay them to represent their interests. This is not complicated stuff. They are elected to represent their constituencies and instead take jobs like this to represent foreign companies. What do you think they are paying £10k a day for? They could pay someone a lot less to advise them on laws and regulations. This isn't about playing within the rules, it is about them wanting to pay for influence to change the rules. |  |
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| Led by Donkeys sting on 14:27 - Mar 26 with 1611 views | HARRY10 |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 14:11 - Mar 26 by gtsb1966 |
So you're not denying you would take it then. |
eh, how on earth do you come to that thought ? | | | |
| Led by Donkeys sting on 14:36 - Mar 26 with 1563 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
The big issue is the rules.
There should be an expectation that an MP's job is full time. As such, they should be prevented from taking on any second job which also then reduces the possibility of lobbying and conflicts of interests.
There also needs to be provision for part time/job sharing, parental leave, etc where an elected MP can appoint someone who represents their constituency in their place. An MP should be able to be trusted to choose someone who aligns with their political beliefs which is what they have been elected for. There could also be potential within this system for second jobs to be taken on. An advantage of this could be where someone gains continuing expertise in a field they are responsible for. Imagine a Health Secretary who worked in the NHS, an education secretary who taught in a state school, etc.
The system is broken and this report is symptomatic of the broken system more than anything. |  |
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