| Brandon Williams (again) 15:07 - Jun 10 with 15110 views | BlueNomad |
Thinking how, in many ways, he would be a good signing; PL experience, no transfer fee and can play left and right back. If successful he would fit the player-trading model. BUT with a court date set for early next year would he be worth the risk? |  | | |  |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 15:10 - Jun 10 with 7779 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
The risk is behavioural and not financial.
Only KM can decide. None of us know his state of mind and attitude / ability to reform. |  |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 15:19 - Jun 10 with 7685 views | Basuco |
Getting him out of Manchester may have been thought of a way of helping him, as it did not work particularly well last season, KMc might move his search elsewhere. Without doubt a great player and huge talent, but has to be fully focused on his football. |  | | |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 15:47 - Jun 10 with 7480 views | NeedhamChris |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 15:10 - Jun 10 by Marshalls_Mullet |
The risk is behavioural and not financial.
Only KM can decide. None of us know his state of mind and attitude / ability to reform. |
Surely a behavioural risk makes it a financial risk? |  |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 16:08 - Jun 10 with 7403 views | ParisBlue |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 15:19 - Jun 10 by Basuco |
Getting him out of Manchester may have been thought of a way of helping him, as it did not work particularly well last season, KMc might move his search elsewhere. Without doubt a great player and huge talent, but has to be fully focused on his football. |
The motoring offense occurred prior to the commencement of his loan spell here. |  |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 16:21 - Jun 10 with 7295 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 15:47 - Jun 10 by NeedhamChris |
Surely a behavioural risk makes it a financial risk? |
Not materially.
If there are suitable termination clauses in the contract, then the risk can be minimised. | |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 16:23 - Jun 10 with 7266 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 16:08 - Jun 10 by ParisBlue |
The motoring offense occurred prior to the commencement of his loan spell here. |
Something certainly happened during his loan spell. | |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 16:47 - Jun 10 with 7151 views | GlasgowBlue |
Any free signings in key positions frees up funds for marque players throughout the squad. So if we can get his head right then it's a yes for me. |  |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 17:01 - Jun 10 with 7081 views | Vegtablue |
He was a very exciting prospect in 19/20 when parachuted in to play a third of Man Utd's season. Dropped down Ole's pecking order in 20/21, hardly playing. Mostly first-choice for Norwich in 21/22, who finished bottom of the PL with 22 points. Zero playing time in 22/23.
I thought he was very exciting offensively, positionally a bit suspect, and lived his football life on the edge. If not for the off-field issues it would be a no-brainer, but I didn't think he hit the heights whereby we'd be tempted to overlook the serious off-field baggage. My gut feeling is it will be a 'no' from us this season. | | | |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 17:08 - Jun 10 with 7004 views | benrhyddingblue |
I thought this was covered the other day. He has a court trial starting next March doesn’t he? why on earth would we take on a player who has that hanging over him? | | | |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 17:20 - Jun 10 with 6912 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 17:08 - Jun 10 by benrhyddingblue |
I thought this was covered the other day. He has a court trial starting next March doesn’t he? why on earth would we take on a player who has that hanging over him? |
Because if it's determined that he's remorseful, wants to knuckle down and get his career back on track, and if you believe in giving people a second chance, he'd be a low-risk bargain (with 'behave yourself' clauses written in).
He's not in a position to charge big wages now, so the only real risk I can see is in taking up a squad place. The potential upside is huge. [Post edited 10 Jun 2024 17:22]
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 17:27 - Jun 10 with 6874 views | textbackup |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 17:20 - Jun 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Because if it's determined that he's remorseful, wants to knuckle down and get his career back on track, and if you believe in giving people a second chance, he'd be a low-risk bargain (with 'behave yourself' clauses written in).
He's not in a position to charge big wages now, so the only real risk I can see is in taking up a squad place. The potential upside is huge. [Post edited 10 Jun 2024 17:22]
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And when he’s found in his car in a lay-by with a balloon hanging out of his arse we can all laugh at those that constantly pushed for this signing |  |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 17:59 - Jun 10 with 6699 views | MK1 |
I would sign him with his contract terminated if he is a naughty boy. I think he needs to get away from Manchester and restart his career. Obviously McKenna, Ashton and the rest know the truth and the current circumstances, but from the outside looking in, I would bring him in and give him all the help and guidance he may or may not need. |  |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 18:05 - Jun 10 with 6673 views | acj |
It's a no from me.
Went AWOL on us last year and we were lucky that Tuanzebe did such a great job at right back, as otherwise we were left very thin in that area of the pitch. |  |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 18:10 - Jun 10 with 6632 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 15:10 - Jun 10 by Marshalls_Mullet |
The risk is behavioural and not financial.
Only KM can decide. None of us know his state of mind and attitude / ability to reform. |
This. None of us have any idea if he's salvageable. I hope so, but the game is littered with people who weren't.
If he can put the past behind him and get fit, it's a no-brainer and I'd sign him like a shot. |  |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 18:15 - Jun 10 with 6607 views | cressi |
I would prefer Ben Johnson at West ham 24 yrs old also available on a free offered a contract but turned it down. Just comes without the drama and problems. Also a London boy so reasonably near home. | | | |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 18:16 - Jun 10 with 6600 views | stonojnr |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 16:23 - Jun 10 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Something certainly happened during his loan spell. |
yes his...injury | | | |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 18:20 - Jun 10 with 6575 views | cressi |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 18:16 - Jun 10 by stonojnr |
yes his...injury |
A brain injury 😕 | | | |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 18:26 - Jun 10 with 6559 views | MK1 |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 17:27 - Jun 10 by textbackup |
And when he’s found in his car in a lay-by with a balloon hanging out of his arse we can all laugh at those that constantly pushed for this signing |
I don't think anybody has said sign him and sod the rest. The one's I've seen have all be with a hint of caution. We ain't the Samaritans. We haven't really got a clue what happened here last season and nor should we. IF, and yes, it's a big IF, but IF those in the know think they can sort his off the field issues, then yes, I would sign him. We need a right back and you are not going to get potentially better value than Brandon Williams. Not without risks, but if those that really know are convinced, then so am I. | |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 18:44 - Jun 10 with 6478 views | Sharkey |
As he's banned from driving for a year, my guess is he'll be hoping for a club in the north west. I know he's a much higher calibre of player than League 1, but Stockport are very ambitious and I can see him getting his act back together there for a year ... and cycling to training. |  | | |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 19:29 - Jun 10 with 6380 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 17:27 - Jun 10 by textbackup |
And when he’s found in his car in a lay-by with a balloon hanging out of his arse we can all laugh at those that constantly pushed for this signing |
Did you miss the "with 'behave yourself' clauses written in" bit? | |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 19:31 - Jun 10 with 6367 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 18:26 - Jun 10 by MK1 |
I don't think anybody has said sign him and sod the rest. The one's I've seen have all be with a hint of caution. We ain't the Samaritans. We haven't really got a clue what happened here last season and nor should we. IF, and yes, it's a big IF, but IF those in the know think they can sort his off the field issues, then yes, I would sign him. We need a right back and you are not going to get potentially better value than Brandon Williams. Not without risks, but if those that really know are convinced, then so am I. |
Texters definitely ain't the Samaritans. | |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 19:42 - Jun 10 with 6337 views | Dubtractor |
I would be staggered if we sign him. Absolutely flabbergasted.
So much effort has gone into getting a squad full of absolutely amazing characters, as referenced by the comments from a few outgoing players, and Williams just doesn't fit that template at all.
He may learn from all that's gone on, may be a reformed character, but I simply don't see McKenna or Ashton wanting to take the same risk (that didn't work first time with him) a second time. |  |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 19:46 - Jun 10 with 6295 views | MK1 |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 19:42 - Jun 10 by Dubtractor |
I would be staggered if we sign him. Absolutely flabbergasted.
So much effort has gone into getting a squad full of absolutely amazing characters, as referenced by the comments from a few outgoing players, and Williams just doesn't fit that template at all.
He may learn from all that's gone on, may be a reformed character, but I simply don't see McKenna or Ashton wanting to take the same risk (that didn't work first time with him) a second time. |
If the club, players and fans show him some love, wouldn't that make him want to succeed with us and be part of our upward trajectory? He is young enough to change his ways. | |
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| Brandon Williams (again) on 19:46 - Jun 10 with 6293 views | bazza |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 17:27 - Jun 10 by textbackup |
And when he’s found in his car in a lay-by with a balloon hanging out of his arse we can all laugh at those that constantly pushed for this signing |
He’d be literally laughing his arse off. |  | | |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 19:47 - Jun 10 with 6281 views | farkenhell |
| Brandon Williams (again) on 18:44 - Jun 10 by Sharkey |
As he's banned from driving for a year, my guess is he'll be hoping for a club in the north west. I know he's a much higher calibre of player than League 1, but Stockport are very ambitious and I can see him getting his act back together there for a year ... and cycling to training. |
With the sort of money that your average premier league footballer earns, I'm sure he'd be able to afford the odd taxi or two, if not his own personal chauffeur! | | | |
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