| Carsley wont sing the national anthem 08:01 - Sep 7 with 9620 views | gtsb1966 |
making the news today and even on the front page of the Mail. Can't see why they make such big news of it. I'm sure most of the country couldn't give a toss. |  | | |  |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 08:15 - Sep 7 with 5991 views | textbackup |
Course people don’t care, it’s an English thing to do, scum of the earth those that are patriot |  |
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| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 08:25 - Sep 7 with 5920 views | Ftnfwest |
As long as the players sing it or at least show it some respect who cares. Anyway he’s from Birmingham which is practically another country so excused. |  | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 08:26 - Sep 7 with 5914 views | Swansea_Blue |
Summary from BBC papers:
“ The Daily Telegraph takes a dim view of Lee Carsley's suggestion that he will not sing the national anthem, external as he takes charge of England for the first time.
The paper's chief football correspondent, Jason Burt, says Carsley is being naive and should not be managing the national side if he does not sing God Save The King ahead of his inaugural match.
The paper argues that even though the former Ireland international may not have sung it as a player or in charge of England under-21s this is - as it says - a whole new ball game, with new levels of responsibility and scrutiny.
The Daily Mail says the Football Association should sack Carsley if he does not sing, external the national anthem.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3563knelro
The state of the papers in England; absolutely crackers  . The Telegraph is certainly no longer a serious paper.
Anyway, he declared himself for ROI so it’s hardly surprising and who gives a monkeys. In the absence of us yet kicking a ball under his management I suppose they’ve got to find something to ho for. They’d look even more stupid if they attacked his U21 record. |  |
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| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 09:03 - Sep 7 with 5739 views | tonybied |
I'm firmly in the who gives a toss if someone doesn't want to join in singing along to a song camp! The mail really is a joke, I wouldn't wipe my arse with it. It beggars belief how much this kind of pap triggers a sizable portion of society, surely there are plenty more important things to be bothered by in the world today. [Post edited 7 Sep 2024 9:52]
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| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 09:10 - Sep 7 with 5692 views | The_Major |
(a) It's a dreadful dreadful dirge
(b) If you're an atheist, you're basically asking an entity that you think isn't real, a fictional creation, to "save" the King. You might as well ask Bagpuss, Oliver Twist or Ena Sharples to save him.
(c) He's probably the most protected person in the country, with access to the highest level of healthcare money can buy. He's extremely saved.
(d) An anthem should be about the country and it's people. Not some servile bootlicking nonsense about one individual. We're not serfs.
(e) The Daily Telegraph and those screaming at Carsley should grow the f**k up. |  | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 09:21 - Sep 7 with 5579 views | Linners |
I'm as English as afternoon tea, but I don't sing it either. Ridiculous nonsense about a King I couldn't give a sh*t about and a God I don't believe in. |  | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 09:24 - Sep 7 with 5564 views | Meadowlark |
Singing the national anthem was never even a thing until a few years ago.
I wouldn't sing it either, just to be clear. |  | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 09:29 - Sep 7 with 5540 views | Parky |
It’s cool to hate it nowadays and anything patriotic, so I’m sure you’ll see more people shouting about how they agree with him, than not. |  | | |
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| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 09:38 - Sep 7 with 5486 views | vilanovablue |
What a ludicrous storm in a teacup, he didn't sing the ROI one either. Frankly we've got a lot more to worry about than a non-existent god and aging relic of the monarchy an institution well past it's sell by date. |  | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 09:41 - Sep 7 with 5475 views | SomethingBlue |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 09:29 - Sep 7 by Parky |
It’s cool to hate it nowadays and anything patriotic, so I’m sure you’ll see more people shouting about how they agree with him, than not. |
Very impressive for the Mail's front page to detect such "disbelief and anger" when only about 15 people (I'm not exaggerating) knew about that quote from Carsley when the newspaper went to print.
Most of us know who has really wrecked this country. [Post edited 7 Sep 2024 9:42]
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| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:04 - Sep 7 with 5316 views | Plums |
Judging by one or two FB comments, it's clearly pushing the buttons of the usual suspects. The mental gymnastics are quite something
One minute it's:
"We want free speech"
The next:
"Sing you unpatriotic fecker" |  |
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| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:20 - Sep 7 with 5245 views | Swailsey |
Literally doesn’t matter in any way, shape or form. |  |
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| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:24 - Sep 7 with 5231 views | strikalite |
Well I think there are levels of responsibility when it comes to managing a national side, he doesn't mind taking on the role does he, you can't have both ways.
There's just no standards anymore .... |  | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:29 - Sep 7 with 5215 views | Guthrum |
Nothing wrong with a bit of patriotism, but better if it's directed towards improving, promoting and defending the country than just singing about it.
More important, IMO, that the players show respect for the nation they're representing on the world stage (that includes by their personal example) than the Manager who is not in the same way. |  |
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| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:32 - Sep 7 with 5182 views | Churchman |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:20 - Sep 7 by Swailsey |
Literally doesn’t matter in any way, shape or form. |
Absolutely agree. It’s a nothing story. Who cares if he sings the national anthem (it’s actually a prayer), hums the theme tune to the Archers or musically cracks one off as long as you are not down wind.
It’s an awful dirge anyway and since I can’t sing a note I leave that joy to others and stand respectfully, as I do any other country’s anthem. It doesn’t make any difference to me wanting my country to do well. |  | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:48 - Sep 7 with 5121 views | dickie |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:24 - Sep 7 by strikalite |
Well I think there are levels of responsibility when it comes to managing a national side, he doesn't mind taking on the role does he, you can't have both ways.
There's just no standards anymore .... |
What a load of tosh! Did Sven or Capello sing it? | | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:55 - Sep 7 with 5091 views | NedPlimpton |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:24 - Sep 7 by strikalite |
Well I think there are levels of responsibility when it comes to managing a national side, he doesn't mind taking on the role does he, you can't have both ways.
There's just no standards anymore .... |
I can't imagine singing the national anthem was in the job description
I'm much more concerned about his performance as manager rather than his vocals! |  | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:58 - Sep 7 with 5072 views | MattinLondon |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:24 - Sep 7 by strikalite |
Well I think there are levels of responsibility when it comes to managing a national side, he doesn't mind taking on the role does he, you can't have both ways.
There's just no standards anymore .... |
His responsibility is to the players and to try and win silverware.
I doubt if the essential criteria of his job description there’s a bit that reads ‘must sing the national anthem’.
Edit. I didn’t realise that the previous poster made the same point as me. [Post edited 7 Sep 2024 10:59]
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| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 11:08 - Sep 7 with 4989 views | Keno |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:58 - Sep 7 by MattinLondon |
His responsibility is to the players and to try and win silverware.
I doubt if the essential criteria of his job description there’s a bit that reads ‘must sing the national anthem’.
Edit. I didn’t realise that the previous poster made the same point as me. [Post edited 7 Sep 2024 10:59]
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I imagine the Italian FA will now sack off of their players and staff |  |
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| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 11:11 - Sep 7 with 4971 views | RIPbobby |
If I played for England I wouldn't sing the BRITISH national anthem either. Always grates on me that we use that. We are crying out for our own identity, instead of this union business. |  | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 11:41 - Sep 7 with 4799 views | strikalite |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 11:08 - Sep 7 by Keno |
I imagine the Italian FA will now sack off of their players and staff |
I love the way the Italian players sing their national anthem, to be honest most of our players are pretty pathetic in comparison.. | | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 11:45 - Sep 7 with 4766 views | NedPlimpton |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 11:41 - Sep 7 by strikalite |
I love the way the Italian players sing their national anthem, to be honest most of our players are pretty pathetic in comparison.. |
Perhaps if we had a better anthem that was about our country then they might feels more inspired to sing with some passion | | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 11:47 - Sep 7 with 4751 views | stonojnr |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 08:15 - Sep 7 by textbackup |
Course people don’t care, it’s an English thing to do, scum of the earth those that are patriot |
well feel free next time your at a baseball/nfl/basketball game in America to tell all the people singing the anthem that. They get upset if you dont stand up for it, let alone dont sing it, and have had to add a line to the announcement to the crowd stand if you are able to, just to make sure people who cant stand arent given grief.
Then goto Le Mans and tell all the French people that 100,000 people singing Le Marseillais is bad , or the Italian F1 GP and tell all the Italians that Il Canto degli Italiani is rubbish, and 1km of Ferrari fans singing it at the end of the race is stupid.
its a nonsense that the English are either the only ones who care and are passionate about national anthems, or that passion is wrong | | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 11:51 - Sep 7 with 4731 views | stonojnr |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:48 - Sep 7 by dickie |
What a load of tosh! Did Sven or Capello sing it? |
I believe youll find they did, because they respected the expectations put upon them as managers of the England team to do so and all that comes with the job, and they were being paid handsomely to do so. | | | |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 12:05 - Sep 7 with 4685 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Carsley wont sing the national anthem on 10:32 - Sep 7 by Churchman |
Absolutely agree. It’s a nothing story. Who cares if he sings the national anthem (it’s actually a prayer), hums the theme tune to the Archers or musically cracks one off as long as you are not down wind.
It’s an awful dirge anyway and since I can’t sing a note I leave that joy to others and stand respectfully, as I do any other country’s anthem. It doesn’t make any difference to me wanting my country to do well. |
Whoa, steady on! The Archers is a step too far. I’d deport him for that. | |
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