Cook had better know exactly what he's doing 12:43 - Jun 23 with 9741 views | SomethingBlue | (Which is different to saying "Cook doesn't know what he's doing") What's that, 11 players starting first-team training and nearly three times as many in the 23s? Even considering there won't be much ball work over the first week, this is one hell of a high wire act. Need to see four or five more players come in very quickly otherwise this will start to look pretty messy. |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:00 - Jun 23 with 1574 views | chrismakin |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 13:55 - Jun 23 by Kieran_Knows | How dare you talk against King Cook. |
Yep, much better to run around hands in the air panicking on the 23rd June |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:01 - Jun 23 with 1585 views | Kieran_Knows |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:00 - Jun 23 by chrismakin | Yep, much better to run around hands in the air panicking on the 23rd June |
Indeed. 10 players starting pre-season on Saturday, with 6 of those at least have been told they're available for transfer, with the rest of the squad training with the 23's. No rush though, apparently. |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:01 - Jun 23 with 1581 views | hoppy |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 13:59 - Jun 23 by WeWereZombies | I did a double take at your second paragraph - we were in for the Villa striker? And got beaten to his signing by Mansfield?? I think you mean Oli Hawkins... |
Wat, you've never got them confused with your Haw's? |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:04 - Jun 23 with 1561 views | Guthrum |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 13:36 - Jun 23 by reusersfreekicks | Think his mind is made up tbh |
Why put 'Subject to change at the Manager's discretion' on the bottom, if it's set in stone? |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:04 - Jun 23 with 1554 views | positivity |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:01 - Jun 23 by Kieran_Knows | Indeed. 10 players starting pre-season on Saturday, with 6 of those at least have been told they're available for transfer, with the rest of the squad training with the 23's. No rush though, apparently. |
how do you work that out? there's 11 on the list *if* it's true, 2 are new signings, are you saying that only 3 'legacy' players were told they could stay? [Post edited 23 Jun 2021 14:08]
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:05 - Jun 23 with 1551 views | hoppy |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:04 - Jun 23 by Guthrum | Why put 'Subject to change at the Manager's discretion' on the bottom, if it's set in stone? |
Presumably if a deal is done, and the manager agrees they can go, then they wouldn't HAVE to attend training with our under 23's or our first team after they've left? |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:06 - Jun 23 with 1530 views | chrismakin |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:01 - Jun 23 by Kieran_Knows | Indeed. 10 players starting pre-season on Saturday, with 6 of those at least have been told they're available for transfer, with the rest of the squad training with the 23's. No rush though, apparently. |
Nope, Plenty of time. |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:07 - Jun 23 with 1525 views | Kieran_Knows |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:04 - Jun 23 by positivity | how do you work that out? there's 11 on the list *if* it's true, 2 are new signings, are you saying that only 3 'legacy' players were told they could stay? [Post edited 23 Jun 2021 14:08]
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Apologies, 11 then. I make 5 players from that list available for transfer. So with 2 new signings, that leaves 4 of them he wanted to keep - which is in line with what I've heard, plus what Brett Johnson said about us keeping 10% of over 40+ players. |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:10 - Jun 23 with 1483 views | footers |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:04 - Jun 23 by Guthrum | Why put 'Subject to change at the Manager's discretion' on the bottom, if it's set in stone? |
One of those politenesses that people say but don't really mean, like: "We apologise for the late running of this service" "Please leave the pub quietly" Or "Cease and desist immediately. Any further unwarranted communication with our client could result in letigious action taken against you." |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:10 - Jun 23 with 1493 views | chicoazul |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:00 - Jun 23 by chrismakin | Yep, much better to run around hands in the air panicking on the 23rd June |
We have 11 players. Experienced TWTDers have seen this many times before though when people start accusing others concerns as being panic or flouncing. I remember it under Mini Roy in particular, and many like you said the same thing then; he knows what he’s doing. Guess what? He didn’t. |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:10 - Jun 23 with 1486 views | Guthrum |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:05 - Jun 23 by hoppy | Presumably if a deal is done, and the manager agrees they can go, then they wouldn't HAVE to attend training with our under 23's or our first team after they've left? |
But it could always be held over them as a threat if they don't behave. |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:10 - Jun 23 with 1479 views | positivity |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:07 - Jun 23 by Kieran_Knows | Apologies, 11 then. I make 5 players from that list available for transfer. So with 2 new signings, that leaves 4 of them he wanted to keep - which is in line with what I've heard, plus what Brett Johnson said about us keeping 10% of over 40+ players. |
another possibility is that they've persuaded cook that they're worth a go? for instance, woolfenden wasn't on many people's def info list to stay |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:12 - Jun 23 with 1464 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:07 - Jun 23 by Kieran_Knows | Apologies, 11 then. I make 5 players from that list available for transfer. So with 2 new signings, that leaves 4 of them he wanted to keep - which is in line with what I've heard, plus what Brett Johnson said about us keeping 10% of over 40+ players. |
Stand by the below post from the other day re out starting lineup, except Woolf perhaps slotting into one of the CB slots Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n by C_HealyIsAPleasure 18 Jun 2021 13:24Indeed. As it stands, by my reckoning we basically have a ‘wanted’ first XI that looks something like this:
GK-KVY-LB-CB-CB-Evans-CM-Burns-AM-LM-Norwood
Arguably Woolf and Downes could be part of that too although I’m guessing not from noises around the club, and perhaps even Norwood is seen as an option rather than our main striker
We need to start filling in some of those blanks fairly quickly, without a doubt
That said - I fully expect to see 4-5 signings arriving in the next week or so, in which case panic over So that’s 5 of what I believe to be Cook’s desired starting XI currently on the book, and 6 places to fill. No idea why people are getting nervy though |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:15 - Jun 23 with 1435 views | Guthrum |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:10 - Jun 23 by footers | One of those politenesses that people say but don't really mean, like: "We apologise for the late running of this service" "Please leave the pub quietly" Or "Cease and desist immediately. Any further unwarranted communication with our client could result in letigious action taken against you." |
My point is, the distribution of the players between squads is always at the Manager's discretion (in the absence of an all-powerful DoF or an overly interfering Owner). Why bother spelling it out, unless to send a message? |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:16 - Jun 23 with 1420 views | chrismakin |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:10 - Jun 23 by chicoazul | We have 11 players. Experienced TWTDers have seen this many times before though when people start accusing others concerns as being panic or flouncing. I remember it under Mini Roy in particular, and many like you said the same thing then; he knows what he’s doing. Guess what? He didn’t. |
ha i certainly didn't, I hated Hurst. Also, you can't compare the two anyway, Hurst had no experience of doing what he had to do and at a higher level, PC does. Also, we had Lee O'Neil and Evans in charge, now we have experienced footballing experienced CEO, Chairman etc involved. |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:18 - Jun 23 with 1406 views | Steve_M |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:10 - Jun 23 by chicoazul | We have 11 players. Experienced TWTDers have seen this many times before though when people start accusing others concerns as being panic or flouncing. I remember it under Mini Roy in particular, and many like you said the same thing then; he knows what he’s doing. Guess what? He didn’t. |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:34 - Jun 23 with 1325 views | SouperJim |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 13:33 - Jun 23 by hype313 | I do wonder if posting that U23's poster with names on it was a call to arms for anyone on that list to prove him wrong... |
This is very much in line with what I have heard from a source within the club. That Cook is very much throwing down the gauntlet to players like Dobra, to see who is up for the fight and who would rather walk away. |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:48 - Jun 23 with 1270 views | HARRY10 |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 12:47 - Jun 23 by Guthrum | Or for some of the U23 crew to come back fit, keen and then to push themselves forward in training. Grab the manager's attention and earn an upgrade. |
yep, that sounds about it Prove yourself good enough for the standard now expected - or move on. Maybe it won't be the coming season that we achieve promotion, but it will be the season that players realise they have to earn their wages on performance, not just appearance. |  | |  |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:49 - Jun 23 with 1260 views | Ewan_Oozami |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:10 - Jun 23 by footers | One of those politenesses that people say but don't really mean, like: "We apologise for the late running of this service" "Please leave the pub quietly" Or "Cease and desist immediately. Any further unwarranted communication with our client could result in letigious action taken against you." |
Do you get a lot of the third requests then? |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 15:15 - Jun 23 with 1197 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 13:33 - Jun 23 by hype313 | I do wonder if posting that U23's poster with names on it was a call to arms for anyone on that list to prove him wrong... |
Absolutely this. Alan Lee (who knows Cook very well) said in his BM interview he believes 100% that Cook saying everyone can go is a motivational tactic (with the implicit unsaid bit being "unless you prove to me you want to stay and fight for your place"). This is just an extension of that IMO. The bit about "this may change at the discretion of the manager" stands out by a mile. I can't believe people aren't seeing this, and I'm very surprised at another normally sensible and respected poster getting the jitters. |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 15:16 - Jun 23 with 1190 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 13:36 - Jun 23 by reusersfreekicks | Think his mind is made up tbh |
What evidence do you have of this? |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 15:22 - Jun 23 with 1167 views | urbanblue |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 14:34 - Jun 23 by SouperJim | This is very much in line with what I have heard from a source within the club. That Cook is very much throwing down the gauntlet to players like Dobra, to see who is up for the fight and who would rather walk away. |
That's good but surely Dobra has already proved that he's up for the fight by his performances at the end of last season and comments recently. Not sure what else he can do unless there is a question of his attitude within the club. |  | |  |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 15:22 - Jun 23 with 1165 views | chrismakin |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 15:15 - Jun 23 by The_Flashing_Smile | Absolutely this. Alan Lee (who knows Cook very well) said in his BM interview he believes 100% that Cook saying everyone can go is a motivational tactic (with the implicit unsaid bit being "unless you prove to me you want to stay and fight for your place"). This is just an extension of that IMO. The bit about "this may change at the discretion of the manager" stands out by a mile. I can't believe people aren't seeing this, and I'm very surprised at another normally sensible and respected poster getting the jitters. |
Still waiting for my apology where I was wrong to question the Dobra ban situation from one of those sensible posters ;) Joking aside, I like what he's doing, a nice small group to kick it off with, can have a look at those he hasn't seen whilst he gets to see who from the u23s does indeed step up. [Post edited 23 Jun 2021 15:23]
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 15:33 - Jun 23 with 1126 views | chrismakin |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 15:22 - Jun 23 by urbanblue | That's good but surely Dobra has already proved that he's up for the fight by his performances at the end of last season and comments recently. Not sure what else he can do unless there is a question of his attitude within the club. |
From what I got I told, it's a case of him thinking and acting bigger than he was, he's just got to take a step back and listen to those around him. |  |
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Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 15:37 - Jun 23 with 1103 views | urbanblue |
Cook had better know exactly what he's doing on 15:33 - Jun 23 by chrismakin | From what I got I told, it's a case of him thinking and acting bigger than he was, he's just got to take a step back and listen to those around him. |
That makes sense. I hope it works. |  | |  |
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