| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman 15:45 - Aug 22 with 3660 views | Bluefish |
There are so many interviews with people that worked with him that say he was the kiitman. Surely our divs can use Google to stop themselves looking so silly? |  |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:18 - Aug 22 with 913 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:09 - Aug 22 by Illinoisblue |
It’s one of those things that nobody would care about it if we were winning and in the top six. The longer our woeful, atrocious run goes on, the more these things get magnified. If Craney is there to coordinate the bantz that’s great but how much does one get paid for that? |
£11.75 an hour. |  | | |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:18 - Aug 22 with 917 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
Why do so many divs claim Cook knew absolutely nothing about the takeover? | | | |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:23 - Aug 22 with 887 views | Skip_Intro |
Why do we have so many divs desperately trolling for attention |  | | |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:24 - Aug 22 with 883 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:18 - Aug 22 by _sanctimoanious_ |
Why do so many divs claim Cook knew absolutely nothing about the takeover? |
Bit unnecessary calling Phil a div
Everything is awesome by PhilTWTD 16 Aug 2021 8:43One report said Cook would come in as part of the takeover. It was wrong, he was Marcus's appointment at a time Marcus hadn't decided to sell the club, indeed he was trying to work a situation where investment came in rather than a takeover. Once he was in position, Gamechanger weren't too unhappy, hence their public backing, but from what I was told prior to the Cook story their preferred candidate was Michael Appleton, who MA and MOL had previously worked with at West Brom and Oxford.
Cook very definitely didn't know anything about the takeover, other than what had been reported, until it happened. He was shocked when it went through as he'd not been kept in the loop while discussions were ongoing.
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:25 - Aug 22 with 879 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:18 - Aug 22 by _sanctimoanious_ |
Why do so many divs claim Cook knew absolutely nothing about the takeover? |
At the risk of people thinking I have an opinion either way...
Because it was what they were told. [Post edited 22 Aug 2021 17:26]
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:27 - Aug 22 with 862 views | Mullet |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:24 - Aug 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Bit unnecessary calling Phil a div
Everything is awesome by PhilTWTD 16 Aug 2021 8:43One report said Cook would come in as part of the takeover. It was wrong, he was Marcus's appointment at a time Marcus hadn't decided to sell the club, indeed he was trying to work a situation where investment came in rather than a takeover. Once he was in position, Gamechanger weren't too unhappy, hence their public backing, but from what I was told prior to the Cook story their preferred candidate was Michael Appleton, who MA and MOL had previously worked with at West Brom and Oxford.
Cook very definitely didn't know anything about the takeover, other than what had been reported, until it happened. He was shocked when it went through as he'd not been kept in the loop while discussions were ongoing.
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Or making such an account, let alone still getting it wrong eh? |  |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:28 - Aug 22 with 862 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:24 - Aug 22 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Bit unnecessary calling Phil a div
Everything is awesome by PhilTWTD 16 Aug 2021 8:43One report said Cook would come in as part of the takeover. It was wrong, he was Marcus's appointment at a time Marcus hadn't decided to sell the club, indeed he was trying to work a situation where investment came in rather than a takeover. Once he was in position, Gamechanger weren't too unhappy, hence their public backing, but from what I was told prior to the Cook story their preferred candidate was Michael Appleton, who MA and MOL had previously worked with at West Brom and Oxford.
Cook very definitely didn't know anything about the takeover, other than what had been reported, until it happened. He was shocked when it went through as he'd not been kept in the loop while discussions were ongoing.
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:36 - Aug 22 with 856 views | itfcjoe |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:09 - Aug 22 by Illinoisblue |
It’s one of those things that nobody would care about it if we were winning and in the top six. The longer our woeful, atrocious run goes on, the more these things get magnified. If Craney is there to coordinate the bantz that’s great but how much does one get paid for that? |
For me Craneys role isn’t an issue for me, and from what I hear the players like him, like working with him and hes decent - the issue for me is where is the experience coach, both on and off pitch, who can challenge him, and is a student of the game sitting there coming up with things etc |  |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:43 - Aug 22 with 812 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:36 - Aug 22 by itfcjoe |
For me Craneys role isn’t an issue for me, and from what I hear the players like him, like working with him and hes decent - the issue for me is where is the experience coach, both on and off pitch, who can challenge him, and is a student of the game sitting there coming up with things etc |
It seems to me Jeffers is the one he leans on most on football matters. Cook is the experienced student of the game. For example if Dyer was manager and he appointed Cook as his assistant how would you feel? [Post edited 22 Aug 2021 17:46]
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:48 - Aug 22 with 792 views | WD19 |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 16:41 - Aug 22 by chrismakin |
Isn't he more of a moral man around the players.. the arm round the shoulder rather than an actual coach? |
Given the background of many of our coaches then I can see why a moral man could be useful to add balance. |  | | |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:49 - Aug 22 with 798 views | itfcjoe |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:43 - Aug 22 by _sanctimoanious_ |
It seems to me Jeffers is the one he leans on most on football matters. Cook is the experienced student of the game. For example if Dyer was manager and he appointed Cook as his assistant how would you feel? [Post edited 22 Aug 2021 17:46]
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Jeffers has a decent pedigree, and sure his move from an U23s coach at a higher level to senior football is well justified, but when you look at who he was surrounded with at Wigan - the very qualified Richardson and Barry who quit the game early to start coaching and did A licence before 30 etc. | |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:51 - Aug 22 with 791 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:49 - Aug 22 by itfcjoe |
Jeffers has a decent pedigree, and sure his move from an U23s coach at a higher level to senior football is well justified, but when you look at who he was surrounded with at Wigan - the very qualified Richardson and Barry who quit the game early to start coaching and did A licence before 30 etc. |
Agree those guys on paper look superior but it was Cook who gave them their opportunity so you have to think he knows what he wants in a coach? | | | |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:56 - Aug 22 with 776 views | itfcjoe |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:51 - Aug 22 by _sanctimoanious_ |
Agree those guys on paper look superior but it was Cook who gave them their opportunity so you have to think he knows what he wants in a coach? |
Richardson was a player coach at Accrington when Cook went it, not sure on Barry | |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 18:01 - Aug 22 with 751 views | chrismakin |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:56 - Aug 22 by itfcjoe |
Richardson was a player coach at Accrington when Cook went it, not sure on Barry |
Barry had been released as a player by wrexham |  |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 18:11 - Aug 22 with 752 views | Swansea_Blue |
It’s going to blow some people’s minds when they find out a translator has guided teams to the Champions League title, twice. |  |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 18:14 - Aug 22 with 732 views | Illinoisblue |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:36 - Aug 22 by itfcjoe |
For me Craneys role isn’t an issue for me, and from what I hear the players like him, like working with him and hes decent - the issue for me is where is the experience coach, both on and off pitch, who can challenge him, and is a student of the game sitting there coming up with things etc |
I seem to recall Burley twice brought in experienced people to help him; Gorman and Hamilton. |  |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 18:21 - Aug 22 with 710 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 18:11 - Aug 22 by Swansea_Blue |
It’s going to blow some people’s minds when they find out a translator has guided teams to the Champions League title, twice. |
imagine when they find out a mere chef can defeat a load of highly trained mercenaries and save the world from nuclear terrorism |  |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Gwion wasn't a footballer? on 18:40 - Aug 22 with 663 views | Fixed_It |
There are so many interviews with people that worked with him that say he was a footballer. Surely our divs can use Google to stop themselves looking so silly? |  |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 19:01 - Aug 22 with 623 views | Swansea_Blue |
And a former PE teacher too! That’s a decent read, thanks for posting. | |
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 19:22 - Aug 22 with 595 views | _sanctimoanious_ |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 19:01 - Aug 22 by Swansea_Blue |
And a former PE teacher too! That’s a decent read, thanks for posting. |
It’s narrative that sticks isn’t it.
The translator
The banker
The PE teacher
The kitman
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| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 19:51 - Aug 22 with 555 views | leitrimblue |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 18:21 - Aug 22 by OriginalMarkyP |
imagine when they find out a mere chef can defeat a load of highly trained mercenaries and save the world from nuclear terrorism |
Or that Hong Kong Phooey was just a mild mannered janitor |  | | |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 20:47 - Aug 22 with 514 views | timothyeo |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 17:08 - Aug 22 by waveneyblue |
Why are you so desperate to put a negative twist on everything.
Not a dig, just a genuine question |
Surely its not a negative twist, its just a fact? The guys a kitman. |  | | |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 20:52 - Aug 22 with 516 views | Bluearmy71 |
You failed with this one before and without reading a single comment I can already tell your going to badly fail with it again, a good troll knows not to cover old ground, especially ground that ended so shamefully for him, your ability truly is suffering this season what with the new owners, managers first full season with a completely new squad all that you can do is scrape the bottom of the barrel, do yourself a favour, have a year or so off, you'll come back stronger for it ;) |  | | |
| Why do we have so many divs desperately claiming Craney wasn't a kitman on 21:19 - Aug 22 with 479 views | istanblue |
He was also a baker too. Yes he might be a crap coach, but at least he can cook up a mean Victoria sponge! |  | | |
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