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Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 20:51 - Nov 22 by Nthsuffolkblue
The point Chico makes (quite accurately) is that whoever it is will be worse than Johnson.
The issue is not with which Tory is Prime Minister, but rather that sufficient of the electorate supports whichever Tory is Prime Minister.
One of the reasons I am so in favour of a constitutional monarchy. Can you imagine what kind of horrendous individual we'd end up with as president if it was a public vote...
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Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 22:27 - Nov 22 with 1537 views
Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 22:19 - Nov 22 by Clapham_Junction
One of the reasons I am so in favour of a constitutional monarchy. Can you imagine what kind of horrendous individual we'd end up with as president if it was a public vote...
I agree. My only objection is that a dog (or similar) could fulfil the role as monarch. Or we could have a new random selection for someone who'd take it up for a year or so and let their family move into Buck House for a bit.
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Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 22:27 - Nov 22 by footers
I agree. My only objection is that a dog (or similar) could fulfil the role as monarch. Or we could have a new random selection for someone who'd take it up for a year or so and let their family move into Buck House for a bit.
I'll have a go at that.
I reckon I'd do a decent job.
I was born underwater, I dried out in the sun.
I started humping volcanoes baby, when I was too young.
Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 22:27 - Nov 22 by footers
I agree. My only objection is that a dog (or similar) could fulfil the role as monarch. Or we could have a new random selection for someone who'd take it up for a year or so and let their family move into Buck House for a bit.
yeah, but just imagine if it was a random selection and prince andrew got it. it could happen.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 22:30 - Nov 22 with 1518 views
Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 22:19 - Nov 22 by Clapham_Junction
One of the reasons I am so in favour of a constitutional monarchy. Can you imagine what kind of horrendous individual we'd end up with as president if it was a public vote...
Very good point.
We’re more than capable of a Trump. Or a Blair.
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Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 22:33 - Nov 22 with 1498 views
Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 22:19 - Nov 22 by Clapham_Junction
One of the reasons I am so in favour of a constitutional monarchy. Can you imagine what kind of horrendous individual we'd end up with as president if it was a public vote...
We'd end up with Ant and Dec I reckon, not sure they'd be much worse either.
Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 20:51 - Nov 22 by Nthsuffolkblue
The point Chico makes (quite accurately) is that whoever it is will be worse than Johnson.
The issue is not with which Tory is Prime Minister, but rather that sufficient of the electorate supports whichever Tory is Prime Minister.
Whilst in one sense that's true, in another I think it may signal the end of the tory grip, as they'll still be trying to sneak in all the sh1t policies but won't have the buffer of padding that Johnson's "ruffled blond hair affable man you could have a pint with down the pub" gave them.
It's pretty shocking, but the UK tory-voting population have only been keeping quiet because of their woolly forelocks being pulled over their eyes by his "charisma" imo.
Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 23:50 - Nov 22 by Ryorry
Whilst in one sense that's true, in another I think it may signal the end of the tory grip, as they'll still be trying to sneak in all the sh1t policies but won't have the buffer of padding that Johnson's "ruffled blond hair affable man you could have a pint with down the pub" gave them.
It's pretty shocking, but the UK tory-voting population have only been keeping quiet because of their woolly forelocks being pulled over their eyes by his "charisma" imo.
Agreed. Johnson has/ had a time-limited x-factor with a certain demographic that gave them sufficient support to do the damage to the country they've done.
The tories don't have a like-for-like sub. Any replacement will not be able to escape reality with the public and press in the way he has.
Johnson himself will end up in prison and bankrupt. Sarkozy, Netanyahu, Johnson.
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Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 00:53 - Nov 23 with 1345 views
I think it is interesting, of course it highlights how he had not prepared for the speech at all, and i am assuming he was at Peppa Pig world whilst he should have been doing that prep.
But was he actually right in spending time with his child and wife and taking the day off, that is the question.
It was a balls up though no doubt, he should have got someone else to do the prep, or get someone else to do the speech. But still must be pretty tough juggling fatherhood and being PM.
Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 06:07 - Nov 23 by pennblue
I think it is interesting, of course it highlights how he had not prepared for the speech at all, and i am assuming he was at Peppa Pig world whilst he should have been doing that prep.
But was he actually right in spending time with his child and wife and taking the day off, that is the question.
It was a balls up though no doubt, he should have got someone else to do the prep, or get someone else to do the speech. But still must be pretty tough juggling fatherhood and being PM.
This is nothing new. For most of his adult life Johnson has 'winged it'. Whether through laziness, or that he is just not up to it - which would explain the former.
As London mayor he would turn up to meetings ill prepared, and attempt to waffle his way through proceedings. Much as he was prone to doing as Foreign Secretary. That was why he was sacked.
Whereas now he is more under the spotlight. Much of what he says is now recorded, and it has finally exposed him for the shallow incompetent he is. A man who will say what ever it takes to 'win the day'. Irrespective of the consequences.
Unfortunately the country has a large number of voters who want to believe the lie. The fishing industries delusion that they had finally found a man who could deliver what was not possible. Farming where the thought that leaving the freedom of movement would not hurt them, any more than umpteen extra forms and restrictions on exports would.
A man who at the beginning of the epidemic chose to take part in a photo opportunity with some Chinese street performers than attend the first Cobra meeting (he subsequently missed the following four). A month later took 12 days off when the pandemic was increasing. Only to recklessly be photographed visiting a hospital - with the consequent results for him and others.
His whole adult life has been one of failure, in both public and private. From his house master at Eton, through employers such as Max Hastings, Michael Howard and Teresa May all have said the same. Even his family, say he is not to be trusted. A long trail of failed and costly vanity projects that hav left the public purse extremely diminished. After the dropping of the HS3, comes the dropping of the NI bridge to Scotland. Maybe folk want to be lied to, as like purchasing a lottery ticket, there is that glorious period when you can dream it will come true. Rather than have the blunt truth told to you.
The fault therefore lies with us. By us, I mean those who closed their eyes to what was obvious to others. Thus, latter day Toad of Toad Hall whose failures are repeated time after time.
is this how we want to be represented on the world stage. By a serial incompetent and an habitual liar ?
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Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 08:30 - Nov 23 with 1184 views
Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 07:23 - Nov 23 by HARRY10
This is nothing new. For most of his adult life Johnson has 'winged it'. Whether through laziness, or that he is just not up to it - which would explain the former.
As London mayor he would turn up to meetings ill prepared, and attempt to waffle his way through proceedings. Much as he was prone to doing as Foreign Secretary. That was why he was sacked.
Whereas now he is more under the spotlight. Much of what he says is now recorded, and it has finally exposed him for the shallow incompetent he is. A man who will say what ever it takes to 'win the day'. Irrespective of the consequences.
Unfortunately the country has a large number of voters who want to believe the lie. The fishing industries delusion that they had finally found a man who could deliver what was not possible. Farming where the thought that leaving the freedom of movement would not hurt them, any more than umpteen extra forms and restrictions on exports would.
A man who at the beginning of the epidemic chose to take part in a photo opportunity with some Chinese street performers than attend the first Cobra meeting (he subsequently missed the following four). A month later took 12 days off when the pandemic was increasing. Only to recklessly be photographed visiting a hospital - with the consequent results for him and others.
His whole adult life has been one of failure, in both public and private. From his house master at Eton, through employers such as Max Hastings, Michael Howard and Teresa May all have said the same. Even his family, say he is not to be trusted. A long trail of failed and costly vanity projects that hav left the public purse extremely diminished. After the dropping of the HS3, comes the dropping of the NI bridge to Scotland. Maybe folk want to be lied to, as like purchasing a lottery ticket, there is that glorious period when you can dream it will come true. Rather than have the blunt truth told to you.
The fault therefore lies with us. By us, I mean those who closed their eyes to what was obvious to others. Thus, latter day Toad of Toad Hall whose failures are repeated time after time.
is this how we want to be represented on the world stage. By a serial incompetent and an habitual liar ?
Johnson wasn’t sacked as FS. He resigned along with David Davis in protest at May’s Brexit proposals.
Sunak 12/5 fav.... on 22:01 - Nov 22 by Darth_Koont
A choice between the Devil, the deep blue sea and whatever weird 6th form debater Starmer represents.
Are we not entertained?
Starmer would be miles ahead of any tory front bencher right now - but preferable as part of a Lab/SNP/Wales coalition - I would be surprised if Lib Dems were invited to form in the event of a hung parliament.
Starmer would be miles ahead of any tory front bencher right now - but preferable as part of a Lab/SNP/Wales coalition - I would be surprised if Lib Dems were invited to form in the event of a hung parliament.
Why would Labour, a Unionist party, go into coalition with the SNP? Up here Labour and the SNP are bigger enemies than Kabour and the Tories,
Have we covered Johnson's shambolic speech yet? on 22:19 - Nov 22 by Clapham_Junction
One of the reasons I am so in favour of a constitutional monarchy. Can you imagine what kind of horrendous individual we'd end up with as president if it was a public vote...
Indeed.
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!