| F1 showdown thread 11:38 - Dec 12 with 16783 views | bluelagos |
In case anyone is unaware, is live on C4 today, coverage starts at 12, race at 1pm.
Winner takes all. We are watching history, have no doubt this season will be made into a film in time, much as the great "Rush" and "Senna" were.
I'll be shouting for Max. Much as I love Hamilton and his amazing career, the talent of Verstappen is undeniable.
Time for the new pretender or for the old guard to get the all time record for F1 championships? |  |
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| F1 showdown thread on 18:38 - Dec 12 with 2329 views | Kievthegreat |
| F1 showdown thread on 18:25 - Dec 12 by WD19 |
Folks on the radio described him winking and high fiving after coming out of the stewards.
Can’t see the result being changed. |
Me neither, good news for the lawyers though. I reckon it'll go to court. |  | | |
| F1 showdown thread on 18:40 - Dec 12 with 2324 views | pointofblue |
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| F1 showdown thread on 18:51 - Dec 12 with 2256 views | blueconscience |
| F1 showdown thread on 18:40 - Dec 12 by pointofblue |
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That’s F1 done for me. Can’t watch a sport that doesn’t apply its own rules. |  |
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| F1 showdown thread on 18:55 - Dec 12 with 2228 views | belgablue |
| F1 showdown thread on 18:51 - Dec 12 by blueconscience |
That’s F1 done for me. Can’t watch a sport that doesn’t apply its own rules. |
Have watched my entire life and what I saw today was a farce and essentially cheating, in the open, by the sport’s governing body. I won’t be watching again. |  |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:01 - Dec 12 with 2177 views | Kievthegreat |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:03 - Dec 12 with 2169 views | ZXBlue |
| F1 showdown thread on 18:40 - Dec 12 by pointofblue |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:04 - Dec 12 with 2162 views | Kievthegreat |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:14 - Dec 12 with 2093 views | StokieBlue |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:04 - Dec 12 by Kievthegreat |
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Don't think this will be the end of it.
The worry is there will now be plenty who won't watch next season and why should Mercedes spend 150m a year if the rules are random?
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:16 - Dec 12 with 2073 views | ZXBlue |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:14 - Dec 12 by StokieBlue |
Don't think this will be the end of it.
The worry is there will now be plenty who won't watch next season and why should Mercedes spend 150m a year if the rules are random?
SB |
Farcical. And dishonest. | | | |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:16 - Dec 12 with 2072 views | pointofblue |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:14 - Dec 12 by StokieBlue |
Don't think this will be the end of it.
The worry is there will now be plenty who won't watch next season and why should Mercedes spend 150m a year if the rules are random?
SB |
The only hope is the rules are strengthened and clarified off the back of this, with (even) less room for intepretation. Basically spell everything out word for word. | |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:20 - Dec 12 with 2043 views | chrismakin |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:14 - Dec 12 by StokieBlue |
Don't think this will be the end of it.
The worry is there will now be plenty who won't watch next season and why should Mercedes spend 150m a year if the rules are random?
SB |
It's incredible the answer they gave.
Yes. The race director can decide how to use the safety car but surely the fact that there was only going to be 1 outcome to the end of the race meant that the race director was himself deciding who wins the championship.
The argument about any not meaning all lapped cars is again stupid. Why again can you allow an individual to select the 5 lapped cars only... the reason why he didn't allow all lapped cars to pass is because had he done this, the safety would have missed the pitlane and it would have had to do the last lap. So again race director as an individual deciding how best to get the race back underway to give the championship to max.
If I were Lewis. I'd retire from the sport. It's not was f1 has always been about. Its the max and redbull show. Next season it'll all be about Russell or whoever Sky wants to win. |  |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:23 - Dec 12 with 2022 views | WicklowBlue |
Here are the details as to why the Safety Car protest was dismissed.
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:26 - Dec 12 with 1989 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| F1 showdown thread on 18:51 - Dec 12 by blueconscience |
That’s F1 done for me. Can’t watch a sport that doesn’t apply its own rules. |
Good to see you won’t lose any sleep over it |  |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:31 - Dec 12 with 1931 views | blueconscience |
| F1 showdown thread on 18:55 - Dec 12 by belgablue |
Have watched my entire life and what I saw today was a farce and essentially cheating, in the open, by the sport’s governing body. I won’t be watching again. |
You will upset young Healy with comments like this. Just warning you!! | |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:34 - Dec 12 with 1911 views | Kievthegreat |
Mercedes have already lodged their appeal.
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:35 - Dec 12 with 1905 views | belgablue |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:31 - Dec 12 by blueconscience |
You will upset young Healy with comments like this. Just warning you!! |
I still can’t quite believe it. If I was the other drivers I’d be livid as well as it’s brought the whole sport into disrepute. Any other race and that ends under the safety car. Race director essentially decided the championship. | |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:36 - Dec 12 with 1898 views | WicklowBlue |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:34 - Dec 12 by Kievthegreat |
Mercedes have already lodged their appeal.
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Something has to give at some stage doesn't it? From reading the Stewards judgement the laws just aren't specific enough legally imho. | | | |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:36 - Dec 12 with 1897 views | Trequartista |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:23 - Dec 12 by WicklowBlue |
Here are the details as to why the Safety Car protest was dismissed.
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I think that translates as 'the ref made a mistake, but any corrective action cannot include removing the last lap' so no scenario where Hamilton can be handed the race. |  |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:36 - Dec 12 with 1892 views | StokieBlue |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:20 - Dec 12 by chrismakin |
It's incredible the answer they gave.
Yes. The race director can decide how to use the safety car but surely the fact that there was only going to be 1 outcome to the end of the race meant that the race director was himself deciding who wins the championship.
The argument about any not meaning all lapped cars is again stupid. Why again can you allow an individual to select the 5 lapped cars only... the reason why he didn't allow all lapped cars to pass is because had he done this, the safety would have missed the pitlane and it would have had to do the last lap. So again race director as an individual deciding how best to get the race back underway to give the championship to max.
If I were Lewis. I'd retire from the sport. It's not was f1 has always been about. Its the max and redbull show. Next season it'll all be about Russell or whoever Sky wants to win. |
It's a nonsense.
If they wanted a race for the last lap why wasn't Sainz allowed to catch-up Max and race him as well?
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:37 - Dec 12 with 1884 views | Trequartista |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:14 - Dec 12 by StokieBlue |
Don't think this will be the end of it.
The worry is there will now be plenty who won't watch next season and why should Mercedes spend 150m a year if the rules are random?
SB |
The last 2 races have been brilliant. Better than watching Match of the Day of Penalty Kicks. | |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:40 - Dec 12 with 1864 views | Kievthegreat |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:36 - Dec 12 by WicklowBlue |
Something has to give at some stage doesn't it? From reading the Stewards judgement the laws just aren't specific enough legally imho. |
My reading was the FIA are giving themselves the let off that the Safety Car is at the Race Directors discretion, so whatever he says goes. | | | |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:40 - Dec 12 with 1861 views | blueconscience |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:35 - Dec 12 by belgablue |
I still can’t quite believe it. If I was the other drivers I’d be livid as well as it’s brought the whole sport into disrepute. Any other race and that ends under the safety car. Race director essentially decided the championship. |
What can you do, you don’t win things honestly now, it will offend some people!! | |
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:41 - Dec 12 with 1856 views | StokieBlue |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:37 - Dec 12 by Trequartista |
The last 2 races have been brilliant. Better than watching Match of the Day of Penalty Kicks. |
How was that ending brilliant?
It was manufactured nonsense which has never happened before and will never happen again.
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| F1 showdown thread on 19:42 - Dec 12 with 1835 views | bluelagos |
| F1 showdown thread on 19:40 - Dec 12 by blueconscience |
What can you do, you don’t win things honestly now, it will offend some people!! |
Accept that the ref had to make a highly pressured decision, in limited time and maybe made a mistake? | |
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