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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions 14:08 - Jun 14 with 7579 viewsitfcjoe

Celina - one year loan, total cost - approx £800k to £1m. No resale at end obviously.

Twine - £4m transfer fee, 4 year contract on £15k a week, total investment ~£7m, with potential resale if he does well.

What would you go with, personally I'd normally go for the permanent transfer - but feel as though any investment we'd have to make in Twine (if we could get him) would be so large and risky

I'd edge towards the safer choice of Celina and spend elsewhere

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:02 - Jun 14 with 1747 viewsitfcjoe

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 14:39 - Jun 14 by EssexBloo

Do you think there’s a chance Twine would come here Joe? For me it just seems he will get better offers. Would love to get him though!


I think we prob have more financial muscle than anyone bar the top 10 or so clubs in the Champ, so always have a chance

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:13 - Jun 14 with 1703 viewsSitfcB

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 14:34 - Jun 14 by portmanking

Is this even worth debate? Surely Twine will have his pick of Championship and even newly promoted PL clubs this summer?


I heard that Twine’s Mrs fancies a job at Ipswich Hospital, may be the deal breaker.

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:22 - Jun 14 with 1676 viewsWallingford_Boy

Not even a debate.

Twine.

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:36 - Jun 14 with 1637 viewstrncbluearmy

Not even close,Celina every time.
Proven quality, proper pre season

Twine could just as easily turn out to be another Nolan
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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:40 - Jun 14 with 1613 viewsSTYG

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:36 - Jun 14 by trncbluearmy

Not even close,Celina every time.
Proven quality, proper pre season

Twine could just as easily turn out to be another Nolan


Cheers for that. Tea spat everywhere.

Twine and Nolan shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. Apart from the one I just used to confirm they shouldn't be in the same sentence.

Twine is (22 and) an absolute talent on a trajectory to be in the Premier League in the next few years. Nolan was about 26 and a decent player in a Shrewbury team that punched above it's weight.

It's like comparing MK Dons Dele Ali and when we loaned Josh Harrop.
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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:46 - Jun 14 with 1586 viewstrncbluearmy

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:40 - Jun 14 by STYG

Cheers for that. Tea spat everywhere.

Twine and Nolan shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. Apart from the one I just used to confirm they shouldn't be in the same sentence.

Twine is (22 and) an absolute talent on a trajectory to be in the Premier League in the next few years. Nolan was about 26 and a decent player in a Shrewbury team that punched above it's weight.

It's like comparing MK Dons Dele Ali and when we loaned Josh Harrop.


Seen plenty of promising players fail over the years ,Connor Wickham being an obvious one you maybe right you maybe wrong,

what isn't up for debate is the quality Celina has though

Celina every time,Twine would be an expensive risk
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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:50 - Jun 14 with 1567 viewswkj

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 14:59 - Jun 14 by MattinLondon

Twine would be an excellent signing and Celina would be a very good signing.

Unfortunately there is absolutely no chance that we’ll get Twine. And I’ll be surprised if Celina comes back even on a loan.


I agree about twine, though I am not so sure Celina won't come back - the problem with him coming back is the same as last year, we have a lot of bodies for that position that all have green patches

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:59 - Jun 14 with 1534 viewsdirtyboy

Don't get me wrong, I'd love Twine here, but like someone else mentioned, if we don't get promoted and he gets injured or simply doesn't fit in or enjoy it, things can go pear shaped pretty quickly for a League 1 club spending that kind of money on a transfer fee.

Celina loan is still insane money in this league.

I think I trust the team we have in place to get the right players at the right point though, so if Twine turns up, i'll be happy still.
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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:59 - Jun 14 with 1531 viewshype313

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:46 - Jun 14 by trncbluearmy

Seen plenty of promising players fail over the years ,Connor Wickham being an obvious one you maybe right you maybe wrong,

what isn't up for debate is the quality Celina has though

Celina every time,Twine would be an expensive risk


Twine 20 in 45.

Celina 6 in 32.

Twine is 3 years younger too.

Every transfer is a risk.

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:00 - Jun 14 with 1529 viewsBlueBoots

Don't know why we're even having this discussion when Keanan Bennetts is available on a free transfer...

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:04 - Jun 14 with 1513 viewsjayessess

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:46 - Jun 14 by trncbluearmy

Seen plenty of promising players fail over the years ,Connor Wickham being an obvious one you maybe right you maybe wrong,

what isn't up for debate is the quality Celina has though

Celina every time,Twine would be an expensive risk


I think you'd have to be very sure that Twine is the one.

You'd need 30+ goal contributions out of him next season for him to retain his value and a very good season in the Championship to realise much more out of him. There's always a risk of that happening with a transfer, but this would be a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiig bet.

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:06 - Jun 14 with 1509 viewswkj

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:00 - Jun 14 by BlueBoots

Don't know why we're even having this discussion when Keanan Bennetts is available on a free transfer...


I think someone last year tried to argue he is better than Celina.

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:32 - Jun 14 with 1430 viewscbower

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 15:46 - Jun 14 by trncbluearmy

Seen plenty of promising players fail over the years ,Connor Wickham being an obvious one you maybe right you maybe wrong,

what isn't up for debate is the quality Celina has though

Celina every time,Twine would be an expensive risk


Wickham did not fail due to a lack of talent, it was his fitness. No matter what player, fitness is always a potential risk. You have to speculate sometimes. Ollie Watkins a prime example at Brentford. They paid good money to Exeter (ca. £1.8 million) and a few years later sold him to Villa for £28 million. However,nothi g is guaranteed, that's for sure!

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:35 - Jun 14 with 1424 viewsgosblue

We need a left sided number 10 - Celina isn’t that.
We need someone who can play 90 minutes twice-a-week - Celina can’t do that once-a-week.
We need to be honest, Celina will always be a Town legend but I imagine his Town days are over.
He would be a wonderful luxury as would a £4m signing in League 1. I’d be surprised if either were to happen.
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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:35 - Jun 14 with 1423 viewsBiGDonnie

I'd go for Celina with these figures.

Can we have both?:

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:39 - Jun 14 with 1402 viewsElderGrizzly

Twine every day, but no way we are spending £4m in this league.

Celina still flits out of games too much for me and would have to be a very cheap option so not to blow our wage limit.
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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:54 - Jun 14 with 1350 viewsLeoMuff

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:39 - Jun 14 by ElderGrizzly

Twine every day, but no way we are spending £4m in this league.

Celina still flits out of games too much for me and would have to be a very cheap option so not to blow our wage limit.


Plus Twine would be mad to come here, he is too good for league 1 so why sign to play there again ? Will have offers from championship and maybe prem sides, he won’t be coming here sadly, whatever we are prepared to pay him, and rightly so, he should be looking to play higher.

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:57 - Jun 14 with 1339 viewsWeWereZombies

Almost two pages and no has said that alternatives to twine are up to the gaffa?

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 17:08 - Jun 14 with 1301 viewsibbleobble

No brainer for me. Celina.

After the Fraser flop and history of investing big and getting little return, I’d be inclined to learn from our mistakes and not go large. One bad injury away from a financially terrible burden.
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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 17:24 - Jun 14 with 1273 viewswkj

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 17:08 - Jun 14 by ibbleobble

No brainer for me. Celina.

After the Fraser flop and history of investing big and getting little return, I’d be inclined to learn from our mistakes and not go large. One bad injury away from a financially terrible burden.


Fraser is a really odd one - Whilst he didn't do much to shine, it also felt like he didn't get very much time to try either

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 17:29 - Jun 14 with 1261 viewsjayessess

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:39 - Jun 14 by ElderGrizzly

Twine every day, but no way we are spending £4m in this league.

Celina still flits out of games too much for me and would have to be a very cheap option so not to blow our wage limit.


IMO you can want more consistency and total output than Celina gave us or can you spend less money in that position, not sure you can do both (not without a gamble coming off anyway).

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 17:39 - Jun 14 with 1247 viewsFrimleyBlue

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 17:47 - Jun 14 with 1238 viewsSomethingBlue

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 16:39 - Jun 14 by ElderGrizzly

Twine every day, but no way we are spending £4m in this league.

Celina still flits out of games too much for me and would have to be a very cheap option so not to blow our wage limit.


Is Twine more consistently involved in games though? Takes a beautiful free-kick and can definitely finish from a range of angles but I'm not sure he's a guy that makes a team tick. Maybe I'm wrong.

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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 18:01 - Jun 14 with 1197 viewsNthQldITFC

Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 14:54 - Jun 14 by NthQldITFC

Celina. He loves the place, the place loves him and in a full season under McKenna with a decent target man in front of him every game, I can only see him getting more and more influential on games. Would prefer a permanent, but would be delighted to see him back on a one year loan with an option for permanent after promotion.

Twine would be great too though, but with unknowns in terms of settling into the team and the area.


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Celina or Twine......with the following conditions on 18:09 - Jun 14 with 1178 viewschicoazul

Is there really anything in this Twine business lads

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