One thing the Boris reign taught me 13:37 - Jul 7 with 4933 views | The_Romford_Blue | I think I (and probably many others) were way too harsh on Theresa May. She was way out of her depth and at the end it was tough to watch. Realistically though she tried her best in a difficult job (the Brexit deal issue) but had every intention to serve the interests of the country. You never once felt she was deliberately lying or trying to cover up scandal after scandal. Compare that to the era of Boris who was quite clearly in it for himself with no care for his party, his constituents or his country. My respect for her over the last three years have gone up 10-fold. Also respect that she carried on as an MP for her area where she’s apparently very popular (done a lot for the area so I read) and intending to stand in the next general election. Good luck to her - the last PM with some actual morals |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 16:50 - Jul 7 with 1178 views | Swansea_Blue |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 15:36 - Jul 7 by MattinLondon | That baggers the question ‘what was, or is Brexit? Brexit - leaving the EU, yes I understand that. But non-EU countries have access to the singke market as well. Telling the largest most successful single market to ‘do one’ isn’t the most sensible thing to do. |
It was never defined was it. And anyone who tries to tell you anything different is being disingenuous. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 16:56 - Jul 7 with 1165 views | MattinLondon |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 16:50 - Jul 7 by Swansea_Blue | It was never defined was it. And anyone who tries to tell you anything different is being disingenuous. |
Instead we got meaningless phrases like ‘Brexit means Brexit’ which in turn should be ‘red, white and blue. On a side note imagine the history lessons in around 100 years time regarding Brexit - Miss, people back then must have been really thick. Next thing you’ll be saying is that Covid was a huge hoax Miss - Well, lockdown is for next term - but some parts of it is also comic gold as well. |  | |  |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 17:05 - Jul 7 with 1154 views | bluelagos | I think you make a fair point Rommers. There have been plenty of inept and nasty PMs. But has there ever been one whose sole reason for being in politics was self promotion? The entitlement, the dishonesty, the narcasim, the self promotion....guy remains a tosser of the highest order who has debased the office of PM. He casually lied to the country, to parliament, to his colleagjes....it's what he is, how he functions. Good riddance to bad rubbish. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 17:19 - Jul 7 with 1120 views | dickie |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 16:36 - Jul 7 by TractorWood | It was to appease the Lib Dems wasn't it? No one really wanted that referendum, no one cared enough to have a big campaign before it, no one turned up and no one voted for AV. |
Yup but in my humble opinion FPTP is the root of all problems in our electoral system. That was our one and only opportunity to fix the broken system and we wasted it |  | |  |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 21:07 - Jul 7 with 1066 views | Swansea_Blue |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 15:31 - Jul 7 by Lord_Lucan | I disagree I wanted to remain but if we were out then my feeling was we ought to be out out and tell EU to do one. May would have kept us in single market and customs union which wasn't Brexit, I admit that it would have made life for me a whole lot easier but I just thought if we were out then we needed to be fully out |
I’ll never understand this. Why do you think you deserve a harder life for no reason? Why support the hardest Brexit stance when that wasn’t inevitable (Brexit really wasn’t defined). It makes no sense at all. We could have left and preserved some of the things that made your life easier (access to the EU market presumably). Why aren’t you angry about people sabotaging that instead of supporting them? The architects of the hardest type of Brexit don’t give a crap about you or me, so why now defend them when you can see the damage being done and you’re even acknowledging they’ve made your life harder? Crackers imo. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 21:26 - Jul 7 with 1059 views | Kropotkin123 |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 15:31 - Jul 7 by dickie | Oh how we wasted that AV referendum! |
Voting reform should never have gone to referendum. The LDs should have made it their condition for a coalition. I don't recognize anyone's perceived right to judge whether my vote should be equal to theirs. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 22:11 - Jul 7 with 1012 views | Lord_Lucan |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 21:07 - Jul 7 by Swansea_Blue | I’ll never understand this. Why do you think you deserve a harder life for no reason? Why support the hardest Brexit stance when that wasn’t inevitable (Brexit really wasn’t defined). It makes no sense at all. We could have left and preserved some of the things that made your life easier (access to the EU market presumably). Why aren’t you angry about people sabotaging that instead of supporting them? The architects of the hardest type of Brexit don’t give a crap about you or me, so why now defend them when you can see the damage being done and you’re even acknowledging they’ve made your life harder? Crackers imo. |
Yes, I don't expect you to understand it. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 23:09 - Jul 7 with 960 views | HARRY10 |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 15:36 - Jul 7 by MattinLondon | That baggers the question ‘what was, or is Brexit? Brexit - leaving the EU, yes I understand that. But non-EU countries have access to the singke market as well. Telling the largest most successful single market to ‘do one’ isn’t the most sensible thing to do. |
" But non-EU countries have access to the singke market as well. " err, yes Pretty much every country has access to the single market. However they are not members as are EU countries. If you are a member there are no barriers, tariffs, or checks between countries ie free trade. As easy as moving goods between Suffolk & Essex. to facilitate this there are agreed standards - much as England agreeing a standard time back in the early days of rail. Now you and pretty much everyone else in the world sees that as not only sensible, but necessary. However Brexit folk had their silly heads filled with the nonsense that these were 'rules', imposed in poor britain by faceless booroocrats, that banned Xmas, made fish and chips illegal and outlawed the pint in the pub, among other lurid lies. It is one is the reasons there has only been one new deal (Japan) so far. And not the 40 from day one as promised. Else where the UK is still trading under EU standards (schedules) and will do so for a few years more if not decades To put it in a nutshell, the UK has gone back to metered phone calls on a landline and dial up broadband.... ' becoz we haint avin them furriners telling hus what calls we can make, innit' |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 23:45 - Jul 7 with 945 views | ZXBlue |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 16:50 - Jul 7 by Freddies_Ears | May screwed us over massively by insisting on no to the SM, no to the CU, and no to a border on the island of Ireland. The those three "red lines", as she called them, are legally incompatible, or irreconcilable. The NI Protocol creates a border between UK and NI. BJ "got Brexit done" by lying, claiming there would be no such border. May was clueless and dangerous. Remember her appalling "citizens of nowhere" speech... She was worse than the useless and dangerous Cameron. BJ was worse again, utterly amoral, both personally and politically. Even the Tories are going to struggle to find anyone worse. |
This is nonsense. Those red lines were inherent in the situation. The difference between her and Johnson was that she struggled and was embarrassed by her failure to deal with a problem which has no solution, whilst Boris pretended he had a solution and fudged it withotu a shred of concern for the consequences. |  | |  |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 02:41 - Jul 8 with 920 views | textbackup |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 14:45 - Jul 7 by Blueschev | She was awful, it's just her successor was worse. Same could be said for Cameron. That is why today is somewhat bittersweet, as I'm nervous of the pattern repeating itself once again. |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 07:49 - Jul 8 with 873 views | GlasgowBlue | Theresa May had a massive sense of public duty. That’s what sets her aside from Johnson. Her greatest legacy will be the modern slavery act. I also recall Logos saying that she was the first Home a secretary to actually ‘get’ Hillsborough. However, as Home a secretary she was responsible for the hostile environment and played up to the racists in sone of her speeches, in order to court their votes. She also sold her soul by going into a formal arrangement with the loathsome DUP to keep herself in power. She was on a hiding to nothing with Brexit. Had a majority in the HOC backed her deal then we’d still be in the customs union and Brexit wouldn’t be half the mess it is now. Especially with regards to the Northern Ireland backstop. She’s also the only PM who actually addressed the issue of social care. However, it cost her a 20+ point lead in the polls and her majority. After she lost her majority she had that disastrous conference speech when she lost her voice and the letters on the backdrop behind her started to fall down. You could see her confidence drain from her and she never really recovered. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 08:50 - Jul 8 with 843 views | ElephantintheRoom | I tend to agree, though she was also out of her depth as Home Secretary. In many ways she reminds me of John Major, who was not a terribly good prime minister but has been en excellent eX prime minister. I’m not sure how the Tories can repair the damage unless they clear the decks of Johnson’s acolytes in days rather weeks. Uniting a party of such different beliefs (or pretend beliefs) all of whom are sitting in safe seats is an impossible task. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 08:54 - Jul 8 with 842 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 07:49 - Jul 8 by GlasgowBlue | Theresa May had a massive sense of public duty. That’s what sets her aside from Johnson. Her greatest legacy will be the modern slavery act. I also recall Logos saying that she was the first Home a secretary to actually ‘get’ Hillsborough. However, as Home a secretary she was responsible for the hostile environment and played up to the racists in sone of her speeches, in order to court their votes. She also sold her soul by going into a formal arrangement with the loathsome DUP to keep herself in power. She was on a hiding to nothing with Brexit. Had a majority in the HOC backed her deal then we’d still be in the customs union and Brexit wouldn’t be half the mess it is now. Especially with regards to the Northern Ireland backstop. She’s also the only PM who actually addressed the issue of social care. However, it cost her a 20+ point lead in the polls and her majority. After she lost her majority she had that disastrous conference speech when she lost her voice and the letters on the backdrop behind her started to fall down. You could see her confidence drain from her and she never really recovered. |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 08:56 - Jul 8 with 838 views | GlasgowBlue |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 08:50 - Jul 8 by ElephantintheRoom | I tend to agree, though she was also out of her depth as Home Secretary. In many ways she reminds me of John Major, who was not a terribly good prime minister but has been en excellent eX prime minister. I’m not sure how the Tories can repair the damage unless they clear the decks of Johnson’s acolytes in days rather weeks. Uniting a party of such different beliefs (or pretend beliefs) all of whom are sitting in safe seats is an impossible task. |
It will take a decade to de louse the Tory party. Maybe it’s beyond repair and a new centre right party will emerge from people like Rory Stewart, David Gauke etc. Starmer is managing to do the same to Labour a lot quicker because the PLP was never pro Corbyn , whereas Johnson created the modern Conservative party in his image. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 09:30 - Jul 8 with 807 views | bluelagos |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 07:49 - Jul 8 by GlasgowBlue | Theresa May had a massive sense of public duty. That’s what sets her aside from Johnson. Her greatest legacy will be the modern slavery act. I also recall Logos saying that she was the first Home a secretary to actually ‘get’ Hillsborough. However, as Home a secretary she was responsible for the hostile environment and played up to the racists in sone of her speeches, in order to court their votes. She also sold her soul by going into a formal arrangement with the loathsome DUP to keep herself in power. She was on a hiding to nothing with Brexit. Had a majority in the HOC backed her deal then we’d still be in the customs union and Brexit wouldn’t be half the mess it is now. Especially with regards to the Northern Ireland backstop. She’s also the only PM who actually addressed the issue of social care. However, it cost her a 20+ point lead in the polls and her majority. After she lost her majority she had that disastrous conference speech when she lost her voice and the letters on the backdrop behind her started to fall down. You could see her confidence drain from her and she never really recovered. |
The comment came from family members, who recalled how she ensured they had lawyers, state funded, at the inquests for their loved ones. Without that funding, the police lies would have gone largely unchallenged and their attempts to avoid responsibility for killing 97 innocent people would have likely been successful at the most recent unquests. She has also pushed the introduction of a "Hillsborough Law" working with Andy Burnham and Steve Rotherham on a law that would do a few things (funding at inquests, duty of candour on state employees) to try and prevent future miscarriages of justices such as that we have seen over Hillsborough. She also attempted to address the issue of stop n search recognising the negative impact it has given the far higher rates of its use on people of colour. She recognised some of the many failings in the culture of british policing, a first step to addressing those failings is to accept them. Recent developments within the Met and other forces clearly demonstrate she was onto something, unlike the majority of politiicans who parrot support of the police whilst ignoring their systemic failings. I don't qgree with her politics, but recognise she did more for ensuring the truth came out over Hillsborough than any other Tory MP. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 09:53 - Jul 8 with 781 views | SaigonTractor | No. May was awful, just because Johnson was arguably worse doesn't mean she should get off the hook. Same thing happened to George Bush in the US. We SHOULD be harsh on the people who run the country. I'm sick of terrible people getting rehabilitated in the public eye. |  | |  |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 11:20 - Jul 8 with 762 views | Radlett_blue |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 16:01 - Jul 7 by The_Romford_Blue | Just to clarify seeing some of the replies.. I did say I thought she was a bad PM. And rightfully had to go. Just that she was at least someone with morals. Unlike Boris who is a disgrace not only to himself but as a representative of the UK as our PM |
Rather like praising a man (or a woman) for not robbing a bank. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 02:14 - Sep 16 with 605 views | The_Romford_Blue | Appears she queued up for over 24 hours with the rest of the common man to say her goodbyes to the Queen. No mention of it anywhere but someone just noticed her on the live stream of the lying in state queue. My respect for her has gone up another notch. [Post edited 16 Sep 2022 2:16]
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 07:48 - Sep 16 with 518 views | GlasgowBlue |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 02:14 - Sep 16 by The_Romford_Blue | Appears she queued up for over 24 hours with the rest of the common man to say her goodbyes to the Queen. No mention of it anywhere but someone just noticed her on the live stream of the lying in state queue. My respect for her has gone up another notch. [Post edited 16 Sep 2022 2:16]
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That’s incredible rommy. Thanks for sharing mate. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 07:53 - Sep 16 with 508 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 02:14 - Sep 16 by The_Romford_Blue | Appears she queued up for over 24 hours with the rest of the common man to say her goodbyes to the Queen. No mention of it anywhere but someone just noticed her on the live stream of the lying in state queue. My respect for her has gone up another notch. [Post edited 16 Sep 2022 2:16]
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Nobody has queued for over 24 hours Rommy (oh and from a previous thread it has never been 7 miles long either) Time will tell whether she queued or not. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 08:10 - Sep 16 with 479 views | GeoffSentence |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 07:53 - Sep 16 by BanksterDebtSlave | Nobody has queued for over 24 hours Rommy (oh and from a previous thread it has never been 7 miles long either) Time will tell whether she queued or not. |
That queue is between 5 and 8 hours long, with the world's TV cameras crawling all over it. If she had been in it she would have been seen. |  |
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One thing the Boris reign taught me on 08:15 - Sep 16 with 468 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 08:10 - Sep 16 by GeoffSentence | That queue is between 5 and 8 hours long, with the world's TV cameras crawling all over it. If she had been in it she would have been seen. |
Although Rommy did post this at 2 in the morning. I suspect that security concerns and the fact she is very special will have enabled a fence vault! Also she clearly doesn't feel the cold! |  |
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Many people were queuing….. on 08:15 - Sep 16 with 467 views | Bloots |
One thing the Boris reign taught me on 07:53 - Sep 16 by BanksterDebtSlave | Nobody has queued for over 24 hours Rommy (oh and from a previous thread it has never been 7 miles long either) Time will tell whether she queued or not. |
….for more than 24 hours before Westminster Hall was officially opened. |  |
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Many people were queuing….. on 08:16 - Sep 16 with 464 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Many people were queuing….. on 08:15 - Sep 16 by Bloots | ….for more than 24 hours before Westminster Hall was officially opened. |
Lol, that must have been when she did it then. |  |
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Indeed (n/t) on 08:16 - Sep 16 with 461 views | Bloots |
Many people were queuing….. on 08:16 - Sep 16 by BanksterDebtSlave | Lol, that must have been when she did it then. |
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