| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 12:53 - Sep 29 with 2497 views | sjg |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 09:41 - Sep 29 by dirtyboy |
Reading this I was thinking of Evans and how a few fans treated him.
I don't think he was a bad owner, just not progressive and felt that the managers should run everything perhaps? Difficult to tell.
The football world moved quickly and is progressive and he simply fell behind in that respect and in terms of the money needed.
He wasn't a bad owner, just not a good one, or perhaps not a good fit. Let's be honest, he was unluck with managers, we all thought Roy would be great with us to start....what a pigs ear that was, same for others....all on paper looked a good start before quickly unravelling.
Would say I feel for Wednesday fans, but they do treat people like s**t, at least we didn't resort to personal attacks on Evans.
Chansiri is a clown though! |
I completely disagree to be honest, and think you would do well to find a metric by which he was not a bad owner. I completely agree that when he joined the club had its issues, he did well to keep us afloat (barely), but before the Gamechanger takeover we were in a downward spiral, which to be honest I could only have seen getting worse. No tangible achievements in Evans' tenure, everything around the club in a worse position on the day before the Gamechanger takeover compared to the day after Evans joined (although the finances were significantly better after he wrote off the debt, so fair play).
I think it was mainly just ignorance - he thought he would be able to run a football club with no experience of running a football club, and no one around him with experience of running a football club. That is terrible ownership - apply the scenario to any other business and you will get the same, or very similar results. I do also think he was our owner in a period where football, particularly the English lower leagues, have gone bananas financially - when you compare the wage bills of many clubs to their turnover, there is obvious market failure everywhere.
However, expecting to be able to manoeuvre your way through all of those challenges that with no football experience or no one around you with any experience in the business side of football is either lunacy or arrogance. With Evans, I suspect there is a large amount of both of those things involved. |  | |  |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 13:00 - Sep 29 with 2486 views | Swansea_Blue |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 10:28 - Sep 29 by stonojnr |
But it is unacceptable if their fans,and I use the term loosely, are approaching his family and causing them problems because of where the club is both on and off pitch.
It is just a game of football. People shouldn't need to be reminded of where the boundaries are. |
100%. There’s definitely a line and harassing him or his family personally is well over it. There’s probably an interesting debate over how much of the chanting in grounds is acceptable too. |  |
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| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 13:12 - Sep 29 with 2457 views | GeoffSentence |
Feck me, I am actually beginning to feel sorry for coin throwing, elbow in face supporting Sheffield Wednesday fans now. Chansiri is like a paranoid, schizophrenic version of Marcus Evans.
Now he says he is not going to inject anymore money. If that's true, and the 'spending 2m a month' statement is also true, then Wednesday are properly fecked. |  |
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| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 13:24 - Sep 29 with 2431 views | Zx1988 |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 13:12 - Sep 29 by GeoffSentence |
Feck me, I am actually beginning to feel sorry for coin throwing, elbow in face supporting Sheffield Wednesday fans now. Chansiri is like a paranoid, schizophrenic version of Marcus Evans.
Now he says he is not going to inject anymore money. If that's true, and the 'spending 2m a month' statement is also true, then Wednesday are properly fecked. |
This is the sort of thing where the EFL drastically needs to change its systems.
Even if the Owners & Directors tests could weed out the proper wrong-uns before they even lay hands on a club, they probably can't do anything about the tinpot dictators until it's too late.
Perhaps owners should have to lodge a certain amount of funding with the EFL on a season-by-season basis as a condition for receiving a licence for the coming season. Then, at least, clubs can be somewhat insulated against what's happened at Scunthorpe and Wednesday by owners holding clubs to ransom. | |
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| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 13:34 - Sep 29 with 2418 views | Mookamoo |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 10:28 - Sep 29 by stonojnr |
But it is unacceptable if their fans,and I use the term loosely, are approaching his family and causing them problems because of where the club is both on and off pitch.
It is just a game of football. People shouldn't need to be reminded of where the boundaries are. |
Its of course abhorrent if fans are hassling his family, but has there been evidence of this? I'm not sure Chansiri's grasp of reality can be completely trusted |  | | |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 15:41 - Sep 29 with 2338 views | dirtyboy |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 12:53 - Sep 29 by sjg |
I completely disagree to be honest, and think you would do well to find a metric by which he was not a bad owner. I completely agree that when he joined the club had its issues, he did well to keep us afloat (barely), but before the Gamechanger takeover we were in a downward spiral, which to be honest I could only have seen getting worse. No tangible achievements in Evans' tenure, everything around the club in a worse position on the day before the Gamechanger takeover compared to the day after Evans joined (although the finances were significantly better after he wrote off the debt, so fair play).
I think it was mainly just ignorance - he thought he would be able to run a football club with no experience of running a football club, and no one around him with experience of running a football club. That is terrible ownership - apply the scenario to any other business and you will get the same, or very similar results. I do also think he was our owner in a period where football, particularly the English lower leagues, have gone bananas financially - when you compare the wage bills of many clubs to their turnover, there is obvious market failure everywhere.
However, expecting to be able to manoeuvre your way through all of those challenges that with no football experience or no one around you with any experience in the business side of football is either lunacy or arrogance. With Evans, I suspect there is a large amount of both of those things involved. |
I think the metric of being derided as a bad owner cannot be laid out on the basis that he simply didn't put enough money in, which is essentially what's happened.
His biggest failure was that he made poor appointments, but not being a football man, he's clearly placed his trust in people who many of us throughout his tenure thought would have done a job.
Ultimately, we'll never know how hard the brakes were put on and we'll never know his true wealth/ability to keep up in the football world was, never did I believe he had enough cash spare to take us forward though.
In hindsight, yeah, he was pony though. |  | | |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 15:53 - Sep 29 with 2312 views | tractordownsouth |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 09:19 - Sep 29 by davblue |
That's an appalling statement, not sure i can recall too many worse than that. |
Apart from his last two! |  |
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| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 16:08 - Sep 29 with 2300 views | Steve_M |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 15:41 - Sep 29 by dirtyboy |
I think the metric of being derided as a bad owner cannot be laid out on the basis that he simply didn't put enough money in, which is essentially what's happened.
His biggest failure was that he made poor appointments, but not being a football man, he's clearly placed his trust in people who many of us throughout his tenure thought would have done a job.
Ultimately, we'll never know how hard the brakes were put on and we'll never know his true wealth/ability to keep up in the football world was, never did I believe he had enough cash spare to take us forward though.
In hindsight, yeah, he was pony though. |
I think his biggest failing was to micromanage everything but then was rarely at the club to make a decision latterly. The result was inertia and the sense of drift.
His sporadic attention probably cost him more than implementing a footballing structure would have done given the churn of players each time the manager changed.
Not malicious but incompetent really. |  |
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| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 22:27 - Sep 29 with 2179 views | SitfcB |
He’s emailing fans now…
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| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 22:52 - Sep 29 with 2148 views | ReusersTown |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 12:43 - Sep 29 by hype313 |
Its straight out of the Gerald Ratner playbook. |
That fanbase and him are made for each other. | | | |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 23:44 - Sep 29 with 2118 views | SE1blue |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 11:13 - Sep 29 by Mookamoo |
I'm not a successful businessman, but how do the economics of - if you're not buying enough of it, I'm going to up the prices work?
The moment a fan feels exploited, you've lost. The man is an idiot. |
And the line telling them to teach him how to run the club… Even if you have no clue what you’re doing, you never reveal you have no clue what you’re doing. |  |
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| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 00:01 - Sep 30 with 2102 views | JackNorthStand |
That statement is a complete mess. Not just the content but the way it is constructed it’s just a jumble of rambling paragraphs that seem to get more shouty the longer the statement goes on. | | | |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 00:06 - Sep 30 with 2099 views | patrickswell |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 15:41 - Sep 29 by dirtyboy |
I think the metric of being derided as a bad owner cannot be laid out on the basis that he simply didn't put enough money in, which is essentially what's happened.
His biggest failure was that he made poor appointments, but not being a football man, he's clearly placed his trust in people who many of us throughout his tenure thought would have done a job.
Ultimately, we'll never know how hard the brakes were put on and we'll never know his true wealth/ability to keep up in the football world was, never did I believe he had enough cash spare to take us forward though.
In hindsight, yeah, he was pony though. |
He was very fortunate that the fanbase at large focused the failure to build on 2014/15 on to McCarthy’s shoulders and that McCarthy didn’t throw him under the bus.
He was equally lucky that when that fanbase woke up that Evans was the problem, COVID came along and shut things down. Can you imagine if fans had been in the grounds over October 2020 - March 2021. He AND Lambert would have been barracked to hell! |  | | |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 09:43 - Sep 30 with 1968 views | NeedhamChris |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 11:18 - Sep 29 by textbackup |
Hope they go bang. And cease to exist |
I don't think any genuine football fan would really wish that on others. | |
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| Hahahah is that real?! on 10:39 - Sep 30 with 1953 views | Dyland |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 22:27 - Sep 29 by SitfcB |
He’s emailing fans now…
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What a humungous knobber. |  |
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| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 11:19 - Sep 30 with 1921 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
He was doing alright up until "Some fans say I am the custodian..." If he'd stopped there it would've been fair, but then it goes rapidly downhill... |  |
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| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 12:38 - Sep 30 with 1867 views | pointofblue |
| They’ll end up with more statements than wins this season… on 22:27 - Sep 29 by SitfcB |
He’s emailing fans now…
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Anyone would have the right to dismiss that as a fake to try and discredit Chansiri further, but it appears to be legitimate. Which is astounding.
He needs to leave urgently. Not matter what has happened in the past, no one deserves to see their club run into the ground like this. | |
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