BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on 16:00 - May 22 with 43674 views | Bluebacker | https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c3ggpj1j4y7o Talks with Ipswich are likely to take place this week and the Tractor Boys are expected to offer McKenna a new deal to convince him to stay at Portman Road. BBC Sport understands that is expected to fail with the manager, and assistant Martyn Pert, feeling the time is right to move. |  | | |  |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:02 - May 22 with 4120 views | muhrensleftfoot | Well I don’t usually go through pages of stuff on the forum. I find this all rather depressing. Phil’s comments have given me some hope that it’s not inevitable that he’s going. However it seems likely that money won’t be an issue if ITFC offer him a greatly improved contract, so if he does leave it will be because he wants a “bigger” club to fulfill his ambitions. You would think he has some attachment to Ipswich and the Project after all that he’s done, He has everything he needs here and the backing of the CEO, ownership and considerable funds and ambition. If he does leave, of course I’ll be grateful for what he’s done, but he will have proven to me that he’s just another football mercenary. Oh I do hope he stays and sees this wonderful project through. |  | |  |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:03 - May 22 with 4090 views | Europablue |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 16:54 - May 22 by GlasgowBlue | No way should it go sour. He’s turned this club around in two seasons. Got us to the Premier league. If he goes then he goes with our love, thanks and gratitude. |
That's the double-edged sword of being so involved with the club and making us feel like he cared more than for the sake of a job. We won't ever regret him being here and we will be grateful, but no doubt he will go down in a lot of people's estimations and he won't be a Town legend, just the one that got away and gave up on his project when there was so much more potential. |  | |  |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:04 - May 22 with 4072 views | Europablue |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 16:54 - May 22 by Cheltenham_Blue | If he's waiting on the Man U job, I can understand that. But, if that is holding up us moving on with planning for next season then his "the club will be in a very good position next season" ultimately means nothing. This needs to be settled asap. |
If that were the case he could just make it know through his agent that Brighton shouldn't offer him a contract at this time. |  | |  |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:09 - May 22 with 4027 views | itfcserbia |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 16:15 - May 22 by PhilTWTD | Not difficult to guess where that will have come from. Heard before that the agent favours Chelsea as KMc's next club. I don't see that happening. |
He should change the agent then. No sane agent that has his client's best interests at heart would suggest Chelsea manager position as the next best job. |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:13 - May 22 with 3949 views | Chris_ITFC |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 17:25 - May 22 by bazza | The second the club confirms he’s staying, I’m taping my McKenna poster back together and hanging it back on the wall. |
So much this. So many drama queens. If he stays, it’s all forgotten and “We’ve got Super Kieran McKenna” is belted out for 90 minutes on Day 1. |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:14 - May 22 with 3920 views | jayessess | For me the article is very peculiar all round. I like to think we've got a decent read over the past 2.5 years on how McKenna conducts himself in public. Even yesterday at the LMAs he was measured and diplomatic. It seems unlikely to me, even if he was desperate for any of the jobs he's been linked with that he'd send his agent out to go brief a BBC journalist that he'd be turning down all contract offers and now wants to move on. No way the McKenna we know would want any of that playing out in public. Either McKenna's had a personality transplant or someone has gone out on a limb here, either speaking too much or deliberately trying to stir things up. That could be the agent, it could just be someone else who thinks they know what's best for KM, someone connected enough to get a motivated journalist's ear. I get the stuff about "the tail wagging the dog" in relation to the agent-manager relationship, but sometimes you aren't 100% in control of what everyone connected to you is saying to every journalist. Might be motivated-reasoning or denial, but honestly can't see the manager we've come to know instructing his agent along the lines of "go on, tell the press I'm out of here asap" - even if he was up for these jobs! |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:16 - May 22 with 3846 views | Herbivore |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 18:16 - May 22 by Cheltenham_Blue | Come on Herbs. You know most of the work for early signings is done before the window opens. |
Not going to be much happening yet though. Prem sides only played their last game a few days ago. It's still May, it's not like we're being left behind as some seem to be implying. |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:19 - May 22 with 3773 views | strikalite |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 18:14 - May 22 by Battersea_Blue | They’ll have their process, yes, but would have loved to be a fly on the wall at the LMA dinner when Kieran probably had a private conversation with Sir Alex, who undoubtedly still pulls some strings at Utd and that was the perfect opportunity to tip him the wink. Based on no inside info whatsoever and part of the reason this is dragging on far too long, is I feel Utd want him. If so, they obviously have to wait until after the cup final to sack ETH, after which things can move quickly. Kieran/his agent are obviously treading water/buying time by being non committal. There must be reasons for this, or by now he would have it clear he was staying. For me, as mentioned by others, the euphoria from Huddersfield and the ensuing days has evaporated. Sorry Kieran, this whole situation has been handled very poorly. |
I think you might be right about waiting until after the cup final, the way things have taken off in the last few days could suggest that ManU, his Club, have now come calling, Fergie "having a word"....we'll see, hope that's not the case obviously, just a total guess.. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:19 - May 22 with 3779 views | ibbleobble |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 16:54 - May 22 by PhilTWTD | I don't get the impression Brighton's going to happen and I'd be sceptical that Chelsea or Man U would offer him the job. |
For what it’s worth, it’s what I’ve been hearing and saying too. He’s still too high a risk for Chelsea and United right now, neither of those clubs can afford that for the same reason. Zidane is a more likely candidate for either of those clubs given he’s won it all as a player and a manager. Brighton is nonsense and always has been. Nothing to fear here. All this chat is highly likely from his agent driving the price of his new contract offer up fuelled by time poor journos who have to fill in the blanks to fill spaces and generate clicks. |  | |  |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:25 - May 22 with 3667 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:19 - May 22 by ibbleobble | For what it’s worth, it’s what I’ve been hearing and saying too. He’s still too high a risk for Chelsea and United right now, neither of those clubs can afford that for the same reason. Zidane is a more likely candidate for either of those clubs given he’s won it all as a player and a manager. Brighton is nonsense and always has been. Nothing to fear here. All this chat is highly likely from his agent driving the price of his new contract offer up fuelled by time poor journos who have to fill in the blanks to fill spaces and generate clicks. |
Zidane ?! McKenna is certainly more likely than Zidane |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:27 - May 22 with 3621 views | N2_Blue |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 18:43 - May 22 by baxterbasics | I'll be distraught if he goes. But.. After the last two seasons, McKenna owes us nothing. HIs legendary status is assured. I just hope it isn't to Chelsea, their fans are *such* twits. |
He owes us nothing and I’d be grateful for all he’s done. But he kills ‘legendary’ status if he leaves us without a ball being kicked in the PL. Sorry but if definitely tarnishes it. It’s a brilliant two seasons and will never forget what he did but a legend doesn’t walk away without even giving us a chance. |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:30 - May 22 with 3574 views | ibbleobble |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:25 - May 22 by TRUE_BLUE123 | Zidane ?! McKenna is certainly more likely than Zidane |
You think McKenna is less of a gamble than Zidane??? |  | |  |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:32 - May 22 with 3526 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:30 - May 22 by ibbleobble | You think McKenna is less of a gamble than Zidane??? |
considering Zidane has ruled himself out of management pretty much, and doesn't even get approached for jobs anymore. McKenna is more likely ahah |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:35 - May 22 with 3476 views | rkc123 |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:27 - May 22 by N2_Blue | He owes us nothing and I’d be grateful for all he’s done. But he kills ‘legendary’ status if he leaves us without a ball being kicked in the PL. Sorry but if definitely tarnishes it. It’s a brilliant two seasons and will never forget what he did but a legend doesn’t walk away without even giving us a chance. |
Yeah I agree with this. Also it's the 'what could have been' that will be with us all season. I honestly don't think there's a manager in world football that could do better with us next season than McKenna. I'm not saying he's the best manager in the world, but given the relationship he has with the players, the understanding of what we need to make the next step etc, I just don't think anyone could step in and do a better job, so whoever we get if he does leave will just feel like a big step down, which is a hard way to start off for any said hypothetical new manager. |  | |  |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:35 - May 22 with 3449 views | N2_Blue |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:19 - May 22 by ibbleobble | For what it’s worth, it’s what I’ve been hearing and saying too. He’s still too high a risk for Chelsea and United right now, neither of those clubs can afford that for the same reason. Zidane is a more likely candidate for either of those clubs given he’s won it all as a player and a manager. Brighton is nonsense and always has been. Nothing to fear here. All this chat is highly likely from his agent driving the price of his new contract offer up fuelled by time poor journos who have to fill in the blanks to fill spaces and generate clicks. |
I’d stick to dribbling over Paul Cook if you think Zidane is a more likely candidate for those clubs. |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:39 - May 22 with 3370 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:27 - May 22 by N2_Blue | He owes us nothing and I’d be grateful for all he’s done. But he kills ‘legendary’ status if he leaves us without a ball being kicked in the PL. Sorry but if definitely tarnishes it. It’s a brilliant two seasons and will never forget what he did but a legend doesn’t walk away without even giving us a chance. |
100% but I don't think KMc wants or will get legendary status. The best we can hope for is one more season, so unless he stays and wins a cup next season he won't stay long enough to be up there with Ramsey, Robson and Burley. He will however be remembered for the remarkable job he did. |  | |  |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:40 - May 22 with 3359 views | TheBoyBlue |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:14 - May 22 by jayessess | For me the article is very peculiar all round. I like to think we've got a decent read over the past 2.5 years on how McKenna conducts himself in public. Even yesterday at the LMAs he was measured and diplomatic. It seems unlikely to me, even if he was desperate for any of the jobs he's been linked with that he'd send his agent out to go brief a BBC journalist that he'd be turning down all contract offers and now wants to move on. No way the McKenna we know would want any of that playing out in public. Either McKenna's had a personality transplant or someone has gone out on a limb here, either speaking too much or deliberately trying to stir things up. That could be the agent, it could just be someone else who thinks they know what's best for KM, someone connected enough to get a motivated journalist's ear. I get the stuff about "the tail wagging the dog" in relation to the agent-manager relationship, but sometimes you aren't 100% in control of what everyone connected to you is saying to every journalist. Might be motivated-reasoning or denial, but honestly can't see the manager we've come to know instructing his agent along the lines of "go on, tell the press I'm out of here asap" - even if he was up for these jobs! |
This is it precisely. It is so out of character for him it makes me think there's not anything to it. |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:44 - May 22 with 3289 views | Mercian |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 16:08 - May 22 by Illinoisblue | Depressing, isn’t it. Clubs now treated as projects to work on for a couple years before bouncing off to the next project. Where’s the loyalty? |
We are the loyalty. Owners, managers and players come and go but WE will be Ipswich until we die! [Post edited 22 May 2024 19:45]
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:48 - May 22 with 3191 views | ibbleobble |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:32 - May 22 by TRUE_BLUE123 | considering Zidane has ruled himself out of management pretty much, and doesn't even get approached for jobs anymore. McKenna is more likely ahah |
…better tell the bookies that as he’s in the running for it and by far a better choice for United or Chelsea. He’s allegedly “opened the door” to a return to management and was heavily linked with Marseille last year. [Post edited 22 May 2024 19:50]
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:49 - May 22 with 3179 views | Herbivore |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 16:08 - May 22 by Illinoisblue | Depressing, isn’t it. Clubs now treated as projects to work on for a couple years before bouncing off to the next project. Where’s the loyalty? |
That cuts both ways though. McKenna has been with us 2 and a half years and he must be one of the longest serving managers out of the 92, teams don't piss about and are happy to cut a manager loose if they don't make an instant impact. There's no loyalty in football at all anymore. |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 20:03 - May 22 with 3016 views | pointofblue |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:49 - May 22 by Herbivore | That cuts both ways though. McKenna has been with us 2 and a half years and he must be one of the longest serving managers out of the 92, teams don't piss about and are happy to cut a manager loose if they don't make an instant impact. There's no loyalty in football at all anymore. |
I may be misremembering but I think I read yesterday someone say on here he's 14th longest serving as it stands. |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 20:07 - May 22 with 2943 views | Stewart27 |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:27 - May 22 by N2_Blue | He owes us nothing and I’d be grateful for all he’s done. But he kills ‘legendary’ status if he leaves us without a ball being kicked in the PL. Sorry but if definitely tarnishes it. It’s a brilliant two seasons and will never forget what he did but a legend doesn’t walk away without even giving us a chance. |
This is where I am. I hate the fact I’m even having negative thoughts about KM. I really hope he stays. |  | |  |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 20:10 - May 22 with 2889 views | Herbivore |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 20:03 - May 22 by pointofblue | I may be misremembering but I think I read yesterday someone say on here he's 14th longest serving as it stands. |
Which is mad when he's only been here two and a half years. Managers have no real reason to be loyal these days when they know they won't even get a full season if they make a shaky start. |  |
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BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 20:28 - May 22 with 2733 views | Swailsey |
BBC saying McKenna and Pert want to move on on 19:27 - May 22 by N2_Blue | He owes us nothing and I’d be grateful for all he’s done. But he kills ‘legendary’ status if he leaves us without a ball being kicked in the PL. Sorry but if definitely tarnishes it. It’s a brilliant two seasons and will never forget what he did but a legend doesn’t walk away without even giving us a chance. |
This is unfortunately very much where I am. |  |
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