| Media Speculation 09:58 - May 28 with 13317 views | bluesbrothers |
These people that keep pedaling the line "Ashton told us not to listen to the media etc". Are you suggesting that you think it's all been a load of b*ll*cks and that it's made up, just because he's ended up staying? I don't really understand why that's being chucked out there at people who were worried or did believe he was off elsewhere.
FWIW a source close to it at the Brighton end thought it was all wrapped up pre the interest from bigger clubs and they're v.surprised it's ended up with him not going anywhere.
Media speculation can be true, even if that same speculation doesn't end up playing out. He's now essentially said yes to two different clubs, and ended up back-tracking. I love it, but just cause he hasn't gone, doesn't mean he wasn't very close. |  | | |  |
| Media Speculation on 11:09 - May 28 with 1497 views | hoppy |
| Media Speculation on 11:00 - May 28 by Asa |
Absolutely not.
There are definitely elements here such as the relationship with the fans, the time you'd be given and so on.
But McKenna may well think that his limit here is survival and at a club like Brighton he'd back himself for Top 4 or Top 6 with the right recruitment. Villa have got Champions League. Last season it was Newcastle. So I guess it depends on all the bits we can't see.
Are you suggesting when I walk into the office people don't sing my name? You'd be right! Lol. |
Do they not even sing any of your songs? Rude. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:11 - May 28 with 1476 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Media Speculation on 11:07 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
It may be far healthier getting players
It might however make it harder to keep players
Big part of this Is might. Not will not won't. Its might.
There is nothing wrong for people to support KM directly. There's nothing wrong with those who's only interest is ipswich.
Is it loyal to almost leave twice? Is it loyal to stay twice? There's the fence and there's two sides to it. |
I'd imagine all of these players are absolutely elated that the best manager they've ever worked under (I think we've heard most of them say that at one point or another) is staying. More likely to have unsettled players if somebody new came in that they didn't get on with or rate. | | | |
| Media Speculation on 11:12 - May 28 with 1456 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Media Speculation on 10:56 - May 28 by Herbivore |
We don't know exactly how close he came to leaving, all we know if he's not ended up pursuing the chance to manage Palace or Brighton. A more positive spin is that he's chosen to remain here when he could have moved to more established Prem sides. But some of our fans seem allergic to positive takes it seems.
Don't agree that the current players or prospective signings will be remotely bothered by any of this. It's only some of our more flouncy fans that are really shook by him being in discussions about other jobs, a lot of fans recognise it's part of the game and players will be even more pragmatic about it. |
Depends if you believe Phil herbz. According to him KM was all but signed for palace and looked almost signed for at Brighton.
You seem allergic to the thought that it's not that dignified to have pretty much all but joined 2 clubs In such a short time span. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:18 - May 28 with 1417 views | mutters |
| Media Speculation on 11:12 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Depends if you believe Phil herbz. According to him KM was all but signed for palace and looked almost signed for at Brighton.
You seem allergic to the thought that it's not that dignified to have pretty much all but joined 2 clubs In such a short time span. |
Its context though isn't it?
Earlier this year if he was talking about joining Middlesborough then yes I'd be slightly aggrieved, however, it was Palace which is an established PL club. At that point, we were potentially going up but stuck in a massive battle with three other clubs who on paper should have finished above us. He'd be mad not to even think about it, especially as we all know how fickle football can be. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:20 - May 28 with 1413 views | Guthrum |
| Media Speculation on 11:12 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Depends if you believe Phil herbz. According to him KM was all but signed for palace and looked almost signed for at Brighton.
You seem allergic to the thought that it's not that dignified to have pretty much all but joined 2 clubs In such a short time span. |
But in both instances having chosen to stick with Town. Turned down two tempting job offers for us. I'd say that's showing positive commitment by continuing the more difficult project at Ipswich. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:23 - May 28 with 1379 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Media Speculation on 11:18 - May 28 by mutters |
Its context though isn't it?
Earlier this year if he was talking about joining Middlesborough then yes I'd be slightly aggrieved, however, it was Palace which is an established PL club. At that point, we were potentially going up but stuck in a massive battle with three other clubs who on paper should have finished above us. He'd be mad not to even think about it, especially as we all know how fickle football can be. |
The context isn't lost we get it
But when we are talking about players thinking of moving you'd think it would be to clubs that could be seen as career progress moves.. so that's what we mean by KM not being best placed to plead loyalty when trying to get players to commit.
Truth Is. As town fans we are chuffed.
But what happens in Jan. We were top 3 In the champ last time he almost joined palace.
So come Jan is he gonna go looking regardless of how good a season we are having.
He's just come across as a manager who's desperate to leave but the numbers don't match. | |
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| Media Speculation on 11:23 - May 28 with 1401 views | Whos_blue |
| Media Speculation on 11:12 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Depends if you believe Phil herbz. According to him KM was all but signed for palace and looked almost signed for at Brighton.
You seem allergic to the thought that it's not that dignified to have pretty much all but joined 2 clubs In such a short time span. |
"All but joined" is the key phrase here for me.
He didn't join anyone else.
That may be for a whole host of reasons. Wages, money for transfers, further investment in the infrustructure, committment to the "project", anything, but he hasn't left.
Why we'd begrudge anyone moving on to bigger and better things is beyond me. Every single one of us would at least look at a new opportunity should it be presented to us.
I've know idea why KM seems to held to a higher loyalty bar than anyone else.
To keep digging away at him just seems odd.
It changes absolutely nothing. [Post edited 28 May 2024 11:28]
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| Media Speculation on 11:25 - May 28 with 1388 views | footers |
| Media Speculation on 11:23 - May 28 by Whos_blue |
"All but joined" is the key phrase here for me.
He didn't join anyone else.
That may be for a whole host of reasons. Wages, money for transfers, further investment in the infrustructure, committment to the "project", anything, but he hasn't left.
Why we'd begrudge anyone moving on to bigger and better things is beyond me. Every single one of us would at least look at a new opportunity should it be presented to us.
I've know idea why KM seems to held to a higher loyalty bar than anyone else.
To keep digging away at him just seems odd.
It changes absolutely nothing. [Post edited 28 May 2024 11:28]
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I can't believe there seems to be more blubbing now that he's staying!
Incredible.
This country, etc. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:33 - May 28 with 1328 views | victorysquad |
| Media Speculation on 11:25 - May 28 by footers |
I can't believe there seems to be more blubbing now that he's staying!
Incredible.
This country, etc. |
Well there seems to be a distinct lack of ambition and belief in our ability to grow from this point. I think it needs addressing. I am not travelling all over the country next season for the sh*ts and giggles. I want us back to where we were under Robson + Ramsey. | |
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| Media Speculation on 11:33 - May 28 with 1327 views | Whos_blue |
| Media Speculation on 11:07 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
It may be far healthier getting players
It might however make it harder to keep players
Big part of this Is might. Not will not won't. Its might.
There is nothing wrong for people to support KM directly. There's nothing wrong with those who's only interest is ipswich.
Is it loyal to almost leave twice? Is it loyal to stay twice? There's the fence and there's two sides to it. |
SBR almost left twice.
Where does he feature on the loyalty scale? | |
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| Media Speculation on 11:35 - May 28 with 1312 views | footers |
| Media Speculation on 11:33 - May 28 by victorysquad |
Well there seems to be a distinct lack of ambition and belief in our ability to grow from this point. I think it needs addressing. I am not travelling all over the country next season for the sh*ts and giggles. I want us back to where we were under Robson + Ramsey. |
I want a 12-inch penis but that's not going to happen either.
Can't afford the reduction surgery. | |
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| Media Speculation on 11:36 - May 28 with 1293 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Media Speculation on 11:33 - May 28 by Whos_blue |
SBR almost left twice.
Where does he feature on the loyalty scale? |
I wasn't around them so I don't know who. What. When. How soon were the two together.
He did 13 years at town. So if it was only twice in 13 years then yeah that's pretty loyal in the end
If KM is still here after a few more years then brilliant too. But at the moment it's twice in 4 months. Not so good. Imo. | |
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| No it doesn't depend on that on 11:38 - May 28 with 1294 views | Dyland |
| Media Speculation on 11:12 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Depends if you believe Phil herbz. According to him KM was all but signed for palace and looked almost signed for at Brighton.
You seem allergic to the thought that it's not that dignified to have pretty much all but joined 2 clubs In such a short time span. |
Believing the Hammer he was v close to leaving and believing that players won't be adversely affected aren't mutually exclusive beliefs.
The players aren't emotional fans. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:40 - May 28 with 1278 views | Ryorry |
"He's now essentially said yes to two different clubs, and ended up back-tracking".
Source? Because I don't think even Phil has said this re *"two"* different clubs. (Happy to be corrected if wrong). |  |
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| badabing (n/t) on 11:40 - May 28 with 1276 views | Dyland |
| Media Speculation on 10:54 - May 28 by Asa |
I love my job. Absolutely love it. Can't imagine doing many things better. I work long hours and am paid very well to do something I love and am very lucky. For the first 20 years of my working life I did things I liked for okay money, or things that I didn't particularly enjoy for even less.
But if a bigger company came along or one a lot further down the line of where I want to one day be, with a greater reputation and offered me twice the money I was on, or three times the money I was on then I'm going to come very close to leaving or I'd be leaving.
Most people are the same. I'm not sure why anyone expects McKenna to be any different.
It's the way of the world. We got Burley because it was a better option for him. Same with Hurst. Works both ways.
Losing McKenna might have seen us go for anything between the Stuttgart manager, the Brentford manager or the Sheffield Wednesday manager or QPR manager and offer them more than they were on to get them.
I tell you what as well. If I got offered a lot more elsewhere and my current employers were that desperate to keep me they matched it, I'd be even more determined to pay them back for what they'd done for me. [Post edited 28 May 2024 10:54]
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| Media Speculation on 11:40 - May 28 with 1279 views | PhilTWTD |
| Media Speculation on 11:00 - May 28 by RegencyBlue |
We’ve been very well played as a club here by KM and his agent!
The public auction element of this must have ruffled a few feathers amongst the PR hierarchy though. Would like to have thought there was a better way of handling it but clearly not these days. |
Welcome to the Premier League! Yes, could have been handled better and I'm sure some ruffled feathers. |  | | |
| Media Speculation on 11:43 - May 28 with 1253 views | PhilTWTD |
| Media Speculation on 11:40 - May 28 by Ryorry |
"He's now essentially said yes to two different clubs, and ended up back-tracking".
Source? Because I don't think even Phil has said this re *"two"* different clubs. (Happy to be corrected if wrong). |
Brighton now and Palace in February. | | | |
| Media Speculation on 11:44 - May 28 with 1226 views | Herbivore |
| Media Speculation on 11:12 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Depends if you believe Phil herbz. According to him KM was all but signed for palace and looked almost signed for at Brighton.
You seem allergic to the thought that it's not that dignified to have pretty much all but joined 2 clubs In such a short time span. |
Pretty much all but joined and yet he's still here, so he didn't join, and ultimately isn't that the key bit here? He could have left us twice for established Prem sides and he's chosen not to, that you and others are desperate to spin that as a negative is really quite something, though sadly not all that surprising. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:45 - May 28 with 1206 views | Ryorry |
| Media Speculation on 11:43 - May 28 by PhilTWTD |
Brighton now and Palace in February. |
Oh OK, sorry! | |
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| Media Speculation on 11:45 - May 28 with 1213 views | BlueMoon |
| Media Speculation on 11:25 - May 28 by footers |
I can't believe there seems to be more blubbing now that he's staying!
Incredible.
This country, etc. |
The outcome is great but also a reminder that McKenna isn’t blindly wedded to a lifelong career at ITFC in the same way that we are as supporters. Hardly big news but needs spelling out & a prudent reminder to us all nonetheless.
I will be behind McKenna 100% and, when he signs, will be back to the optimism and excitement I have for next season that I felt a fortnight ago. | | | |
| Media Speculation on 11:45 - May 28 with 1210 views | bsw72 |
I think the simple fact is that there is an element of truth from all parties - and then the demand to fill media web pages and TV screens 24x7 drives a need to sensationalize facts into headlines, which others read and derive more headlines.
It's basically like throwing the chum of factual rumours into the water of media hungry sharks and then having to deal with the feeding frenzy.
At least it's filled the first couple of weeks of post season malaise, let's now move on to which players we are going to sign, based upon someone seeing a personalized plate near PR. |  | | |
| Media Speculation on 11:45 - May 28 with 1210 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Media Speculation on 11:43 - May 28 by PhilTWTD |
Brighton now and Palace in February. |
Phil, reckon the rest of the staff will sign new deals alongside McKenna's? Similar to last summer? |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:46 - May 28 with 1199 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Media Speculation on 11:08 - May 28 by Stewart27 |
Not a great look?
It’s literally life. Actual every day life. |
Well we could say that about everything. 'Football is life' as the saying goes....
As I said, I'm pleased he's staying after being sorely tempted by Palace and Brighton.
I hope he's now committed for the season. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:46 - May 28 with 1197 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Media Speculation on 11:45 - May 28 by Ryorry |
Oh OK, sorry! |
I think that apology is for the OP, not Phil.  | |
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| Media Speculation on 11:47 - May 28 with 1194 views | Herbivore |
| Media Speculation on 11:23 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
The context isn't lost we get it
But when we are talking about players thinking of moving you'd think it would be to clubs that could be seen as career progress moves.. so that's what we mean by KM not being best placed to plead loyalty when trying to get players to commit.
Truth Is. As town fans we are chuffed.
But what happens in Jan. We were top 3 In the champ last time he almost joined palace.
So come Jan is he gonna go looking regardless of how good a season we are having.
He's just come across as a manager who's desperate to leave but the numbers don't match. |
Don't you ever tire of talking utter gubbins. He's come across as desperate to leave? He's had, apparently, two concrete chances to leave for objectively better posts than he has at Ipswich and he hasn't left. How the feck can anyone conclude from that that he's desperate to leave? | |
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