| Media Speculation 09:58 - May 28 with 12758 views | bluesbrothers |
These people that keep pedaling the line "Ashton told us not to listen to the media etc". Are you suggesting that you think it's all been a load of b*ll*cks and that it's made up, just because he's ended up staying? I don't really understand why that's being chucked out there at people who were worried or did believe he was off elsewhere.
FWIW a source close to it at the Brighton end thought it was all wrapped up pre the interest from bigger clubs and they're v.surprised it's ended up with him not going anywhere.
Media speculation can be true, even if that same speculation doesn't end up playing out. He's now essentially said yes to two different clubs, and ended up back-tracking. I love it, but just cause he hasn't gone, doesn't mean he wasn't very close. |  | | |  |
| Media Speculation on 11:47 - May 28 with 1910 views | mutters |
| Media Speculation on 11:23 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
The context isn't lost we get it
But when we are talking about players thinking of moving you'd think it would be to clubs that could be seen as career progress moves.. so that's what we mean by KM not being best placed to plead loyalty when trying to get players to commit.
Truth Is. As town fans we are chuffed.
But what happens in Jan. We were top 3 In the champ last time he almost joined palace.
So come Jan is he gonna go looking regardless of how good a season we are having.
He's just come across as a manager who's desperate to leave but the numbers don't match. |
You are completely overthinking this imo. He isn't desperate to leave, otherwise he would have gone by now. He has had plenty of offers to go and has chosen to stay.
It feels like you are going after him and actively want to paint him in a negative light. Haven't you learnt anything from your experience with Wes Burns? |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:47 - May 28 with 1898 views | Ryorry |
| Media Speculation on 11:46 - May 28 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I think that apology is for the OP, not Phil.  |
It was for both. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:48 - May 28 with 1901 views | Herbivore |
| Media Speculation on 11:33 - May 28 by victorysquad |
Well there seems to be a distinct lack of ambition and belief in our ability to grow from this point. I think it needs addressing. I am not travelling all over the country next season for the sh*ts and giggles. I want us back to where we were under Robson + Ramsey. |
Really poor trolling, mate. No subtlety at all. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:48 - May 28 with 1890 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Media Speculation on 11:47 - May 28 by Ryorry |
It was for both. |
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| Media Speculation on 11:50 - May 28 with 1860 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Media Speculation on 11:44 - May 28 by Herbivore |
Pretty much all but joined and yet he's still here, so he didn't join, and ultimately isn't that the key bit here? He could have left us twice for established Prem sides and he's chosen not to, that you and others are desperate to spin that as a negative is really quite something, though sadly not all that surprising. |
The fact he's almost gone twice in just 4 months isn't that great herbz. The fact he's stayed is which us what we all agree on.
He's chosen not to.. why. That's the key.
But there's no way you can say it's commitment to the club otherwise he wouldn't have almost joined either.
What it does mean however we now spend our seasons wondering if and when he talks to his next club. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:51 - May 28 with 1853 views | Asa |
| Media Speculation on 11:09 - May 28 by hoppy |
Do they not even sing any of your songs? Rude. |
I'd hope not. Otherwise I'd be wanting to leave. | | | |
| Media Speculation on 11:52 - May 28 with 1838 views | Herbivore |
| Media Speculation on 11:50 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
The fact he's almost gone twice in just 4 months isn't that great herbz. The fact he's stayed is which us what we all agree on.
He's chosen not to.. why. That's the key.
But there's no way you can say it's commitment to the club otherwise he wouldn't have almost joined either.
What it does mean however we now spend our seasons wondering if and when he talks to his next club. |
This is all just your usual negative nonsense spin. I'm out. | |
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| Media Speculation on 11:53 - May 28 with 1835 views | WestSussexBlue |
| Media Speculation on 10:42 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Didn't see him write that tbh.
But if you're trying to get players to commit esp current ones then he's right. KM almost leaving twice can't help with those discussions. |
Let’s be clear, whilst KMc is the manager, this club is in a very strong position.
That said, such is the ambition, growth and focus from MA along with the ownership that when the time comes and KMc moves on, we will be in an even stronger and more established position. I fully trust the next appointment will be as diligently planned as KMc was.
The last few weeks if not years have shown how ambitious our manager is, for now we grow together. | | | |
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| So ridiculous on 11:53 - May 28 with 1839 views | Dyland |
| Media Speculation on 11:50 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
The fact he's almost gone twice in just 4 months isn't that great herbz. The fact he's stayed is which us what we all agree on.
He's chosen not to.. why. That's the key.
But there's no way you can say it's commitment to the club otherwise he wouldn't have almost joined either.
What it does mean however we now spend our seasons wondering if and when he talks to his next club. |
"... we now spend our seasons wondering if and when he talks to his next club."
Football probably isn't for you. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 11:54 - May 28 with 1827 views | pointofblue |
| Media Speculation on 11:44 - May 28 by Herbivore |
Pretty much all but joined and yet he's still here, so he didn't join, and ultimately isn't that the key bit here? He could have left us twice for established Prem sides and he's chosen not to, that you and others are desperate to spin that as a negative is really quite something, though sadly not all that surprising. |
I think the Palace one is the big one for me. We were in a poor run of form, relatively speaking, with one league win in nine and had just lost to Maidstone in the cup. The club couldn’t make any in-season promises about improving the squad as the transfer window had come and gone. He didn’t sign/wasn’t offered a new contract - possibly there was a promise of a new deal in the summer. Anyone should see how tempting it would have been for him to move on at that point yet, no matter how close it actually got, he didn’t. He held all the cards. The club held few, other than making a contract offer then and there. Yet he elected to stay and see it through. | |
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| Media Speculation on 11:55 - May 28 with 1816 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Media Speculation on 11:47 - May 28 by mutters |
You are completely overthinking this imo. He isn't desperate to leave, otherwise he would have gone by now. He has had plenty of offers to go and has chosen to stay.
It feels like you are going after him and actively want to paint him in a negative light. Haven't you learnt anything from your experience with Wes Burns? |
Yes. It taught me that twtd users don't actually know what happend with the burns stuff but are keen to bring it up without knowing the details. But anyways not here to dicuss the past.
I'm not going after KM. I'm discussing what's been openly discussed by everyone on here. | |
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| So ridiculous on 11:55 - May 28 with 1815 views | Herbivore |
| So ridiculous on 11:53 - May 28 by Dyland |
"... we now spend our seasons wondering if and when he talks to his next club."
Football probably isn't for you. |
Those of us that go to games will be spending our season enjoying watching Prem football, not clutching our pearls and worrying about if and when our manager might be linked to another job again. | |
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| Media Speculation on 11:55 - May 28 with 1814 views | PhilTWTD |
| Media Speculation on 11:45 - May 28 by Kieran_Knows |
Phil, reckon the rest of the staff will sign new deals alongside McKenna's? Similar to last summer? |
Assume so, is usually the way things are done. |  | | |
| Media Speculation on 11:56 - May 28 with 1800 views | Ryorry |
| Media Speculation on 11:50 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
The fact he's almost gone twice in just 4 months isn't that great herbz. The fact he's stayed is which us what we all agree on.
He's chosen not to.. why. That's the key.
But there's no way you can say it's commitment to the club otherwise he wouldn't have almost joined either.
What it does mean however we now spend our seasons wondering if and when he talks to his next club. |
Fgs man, put yer bloody spade down & take a break with a cuppa tea or three. | |
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| So ridiculous on 11:57 - May 28 with 1785 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So ridiculous on 11:55 - May 28 by Herbivore |
Those of us that go to games will be spending our season enjoying watching Prem football, not clutching our pearls and worrying about if and when our manager might be linked to another job again. |
Don't worry I'm sure if he goes you'll say how positive the move was. Claim your Internet wins. | |
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| Media Speculation on 11:59 - May 28 with 1769 views | CrockerITFC |
| Media Speculation on 10:29 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Let's be honest here. He's stayed because we've offered 100k a week. Got for him. But let's not pretend his loyal committed and all this rubbish that goes with it. He's clearly not otherwise all this wouldn't have happend.
He shall continue to get support as the manager of the club I support but I don't be falling for all this guff about his loyalty and how he's remained dignified through it all. |
Let's be honest, it's "fans" like you that make the decision to leave our club a lot easier |  | | |
| Media Speculation on 12:08 - May 28 with 1713 views | mutters |
| Media Speculation on 11:55 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Yes. It taught me that twtd users don't actually know what happend with the burns stuff but are keen to bring it up without knowing the details. But anyways not here to dicuss the past.
I'm not going after KM. I'm discussing what's been openly discussed by everyone on here. |
If thats all you learnt then it feels like you've learnt nothing from the situation. | |
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| Media Speculation on 12:14 - May 28 with 1692 views | bluesbrothers |
This thread seems to have turned in to whether we should be annoyed at McKenna or not - not what I intended.
Was meant to be focussing on the fact that just because something doesn't happen, doesn't mean that media speculation is wrong, and so the rhetoric that we should always listen to ashton and never speculate is ridiculous. | | | |
| Media Speculation on 12:14 - May 28 with 1685 views | footers |
| Media Speculation on 12:08 - May 28 by mutters |
If thats all you learnt then it feels like you've learnt nothing from the situation. |
Relentless stupidity. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 12:21 - May 28 with 1633 views | pointofblue |
| Media Speculation on 11:12 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Depends if you believe Phil herbz. According to him KM was all but signed for palace and looked almost signed for at Brighton.
You seem allergic to the thought that it's not that dignified to have pretty much all but joined 2 clubs In such a short time span. |
But he didn’t.
I get where you’re coming from, but it’s with blue tinted spectacles of Ipswich being the be all and end all. We’re not. Every player who has joined us, who will join us, will be hoping we’re not the pinnacle of their career. We’re a stepping stone, a chance to get themselves in the limelight, a chance to prove themselves in the top flight before moving on to more established clubs. Players present and future will understand that McKenna will be of the same thinking, and I doubt it’ll affect them at all. If anything they’ll be looking forward to working with someone with ambition and, if he moves on, perhaps he’ll come back for them too. And the same can be said for every club except for those at the very upper echelons of the game.
It just feels odd because we haven’t be in this position for over 20 years and, whether it’s because of the development of social media or Burley’s historic connection with us or fewer sackings over the summer of 2001, there didn’t seem to be so much interest in him after we finished 5th. [Post edited 28 May 2024 12:22]
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| Media Speculation on 12:29 - May 28 with 1605 views | Portmanteauxcurling |
| Media Speculation on 11:35 - May 28 by footers |
I want a 12-inch penis but that's not going to happen either.
Can't afford the reduction surgery. |
....... and did you only get it in the first place by being a tight-fisted w*nker ?
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| Media Speculation on 12:29 - May 28 with 1604 views | Vegtablue |
| Media Speculation on 11:45 - May 28 by BlueMoon |
The outcome is great but also a reminder that McKenna isn’t blindly wedded to a lifelong career at ITFC in the same way that we are as supporters. Hardly big news but needs spelling out & a prudent reminder to us all nonetheless.
I will be behind McKenna 100% and, when he signs, will be back to the optimism and excitement I have for next season that I felt a fortnight ago. |
Darn tootin'! I see this as a great start to the summer now. Flush it all out early, healthy insight into PL life and KM's future, fought off the savviest medium-sized club in the country, and the transfer window is still 17 or so days away. | | | |
| Media Speculation on 12:35 - May 28 with 1588 views | N2_Blue |
| Media Speculation on 10:21 - May 28 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Even Phil has said that KM came very close to joining Palace in Feb, and now in May he very nearly joined Brighton.
I think its safe to say that its been more than just idle speculation.
I'm pleased KM is staying, but nearly leaving twice in 4 months isn't a great look. I hope he is now 100% committed to us for the season.
Existing players and potential new signings are entitled to doubt KM's commitment to the club, which is a shame. Hopefully by the time the season starts the club will again have the feeling of togetherness. |
i'd say it's impressive. It shows how committed he is even if there is a bigger contract. In fact the opposite of what you are suggesting which is a bit odd really.
He has stayed with us, we were in L1 less than two years ago and he has turned down two established Prem league sides. How many other managers do you think would do that. How is that not being committed. If he wasn't committed to us he would have left, not stayed!
And of course he is going to be committed, he is going to want to raise his profile futher to get that shot at a big job.
I'm delighted. |  |
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| Media Speculation on 12:37 - May 28 with 1573 views | N2_Blue |
| Media Speculation on 10:29 - May 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Let's be honest here. He's stayed because we've offered 100k a week. Got for him. But let's not pretend his loyal committed and all this rubbish that goes with it. He's clearly not otherwise all this wouldn't have happend.
He shall continue to get support as the manager of the club I support but I don't be falling for all this guff about his loyalty and how he's remained dignified through it all. |
I try reason with you sometimes but you're just a bit of a kno b when you say stuff like this.
You of alll people should have a bit more respect for Mckenna after what you initially said before he'd even got a foot in the building. | |
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| Media Speculation on 12:40 - May 28 with 1554 views | PhilTWTD |
| Media Speculation on 10:39 - May 28 by footers |
Minsmere season pass possibly? |
I think that's standard. Maybe a sailing boat from what Kieran said at the end of the season. | | | |
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