| So do you really care? 22:21 - Jun 25 with 4328 views | Coastalblue |
I mean really care like it upsets your whole week? If so what age bracket are you out of interest?
I'll watch England in tournaments, support in England in tournaments, celebrate a win, but to be honest, when we go out it's mostly a shrug of the shoulders and oh well, what could have been.
A complete contrast to supporting Town, though in my younger days I was much more invested in England. |  |
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| So do you really care? on 22:25 - Jun 25 with 3179 views | mutters |
I rarely watch international football, its all a bit blaaaah for me these days. I did listen to the second half tonight but that was because I was in the car driving the little one home.
WIll watch Sunday's game, but that is due to a friend visiting who will want to watch it.
Same as you really, Town all the way |  |
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| So do you really care? on 22:33 - Jun 25 with 3133 views | surreyblue |
In 2018 and 2021 it mattered a lot - slightly less in 2022 but my partner was pregnant at the time so I was a bit more distracted. I think Ipswich had been so poor for so long that I was desperate for any sort of success.
After the last two years I certainly feel less strongly about England, but maybe if we start playing better I'll feel more enthused |  | | |
| So do you really care? on 22:35 - Jun 25 with 3111 views | FrimleyBlue |
Nah
Ipswich don't win. I'm miserable for a week
England don't win. I just discuss it. Laugh about it then remember these players get 200k a week so dont deserve any of my time worrying about their results. So just wait for the next game and see what happens. Then repeat |  |
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| So do you really care? on 22:37 - Jun 25 with 3109 views | woodbridge_blue |
I think you are hinting that the older you are, the less a poor England performance affects you....I couldn't agree more.
Having sat through, by my recollection, 22 tournaments, plus four failed qualifications, England interest me less and less with each passing couple of years.
I was discussing with my son in the pub tonight, I loved Italia 90 and England 96, and the last Euros did their bit to raise the excitement level, but as I mentioned in an earlier post, the atmosphere in the local tonight paled into insignificance compared to the Hull and Coventry nights.
Ultimately, if and when England get knocked out, I will get over it very quickly.
With Town, it takes me until the next game to recover from a defeat.
And for the record, I am 64. | | | |
| I haven't really cared since.... on 22:38 - Jun 25 with 3099 views | Bloots |
...Euro 96.
I want them to win, but don't lose any sleep over it. |  |
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| So do you really care? on 22:39 - Jun 25 with 3090 views | Asa |
Echo what others have said. I don’t actually really care. Haven’t done for some time.
I’ve been obsessed with football since I can remember. Follow Town home and away. Play 2-3 times a week. Even work in football.
But I feel quite detached from England and have done probably since my early 20’s. England losing in 90, 96, 98, 02 etc really got to me but I feel like I got to a point where I just expected us not to do anything and even when we went 1-0 up in the final against Italy I didn’t actually believe we’d do it.
It would be great if we won something but I just can’t really care about a team that isn’t Ipswich. Even if it is England. [Post edited 25 Jun 2024 22:50]
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| So do you really care? on 22:42 - Jun 25 with 3066 views | J2BLUE |
I will care when it matters. With the format of the group stages it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that we get through, even if we're crap. |  |
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| So do you really care? on 22:49 - Jun 25 with 3031 views | EastTownBlue |
Once we get to the knockout stage perhaps. I remember being in tears following the penalties defeat to West Germany in 1990.
But these days no England defeat will hurt me as much as Maidstone, Norwich and Cardiff. | | | |
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| So do you really care? on 22:54 - Jun 25 with 2990 views | Churchman |
No. I was annoyed by it for half an hour but not now. I like my country to do well, obviously, but it’s club first always.
Ipswich games? When I used to go with my dad it was the full rage, rant and analysis for the evening from both of us. Strangely happy memories of shared experiences, good and bad.
The mood was never helped by the manager doing a cliche ridden snow job on the afternoon horror or they’d given that berk Frank too much air time. Generally ok by the following day…but pained by it until we next played.
I’m an old git now, but was exactly the same in my yoof. [Post edited 25 Jun 2024 22:55]
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| So do you really care? on 23:09 - Jun 25 with 2921 views | Bigalhunter |
I think the media wants everyone to care, judging by the hideous twenty minutes I spent listening to the appalling Nicky Campbell thing on radio 5 and the intense analysis from Jenas, Neville, wright et al on the terrestrial channels.
I don’t see the car flags and hideous bedsheet St George flags hanging out windows that used to be everywhere at the turn of the century, so I’m not sure anyone cares that much anymore.
Personally, as I’ve got older, I find it funnier when England underachieve, just to witness the hand-wringing and absolute incoherent fury that it creates.
If Ipswich can re-establish themselves in the top division over the next couple of seasons, I’d happily trade that for England never winning another match. Ever. |  |
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| So do you really care? on 23:11 - Jun 25 with 2912 views | itfckenty |
I'll always support them, but I won't cry if we get knocked out. I think more so this year as I'm sure as all just want the season to start. |  | | |
| So do you really care? on 00:20 - Jun 26 with 2843 views | N2_Blue |
Tonight was the first tournament game England have played that I've not watched through choice. Spent it with my daughter instead and so glad i did.
England have a fine array of attacking players but whats the point when you have a manager who hasn't got a clue how to use them.
It may as well be Carlton Palmer and Chris Bart Williams in midfiled for England with this manager.
Can't believe how little I care about international foortball anymore. This tounament has been a snorefest really |  |
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| I haven't really cared since.... (n/t) on 00:35 - Jun 26 with 2829 views | Lord_Lucan |
| I haven't really cared since.... on 22:38 - Jun 25 by Bloots |
...Euro 96.
I want them to win, but don't lose any sleep over it. |
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| So do you really care? on 00:46 - Jun 26 with 2806 views | Mercian |
| So do you really care? on 22:49 - Jun 25 by EastTownBlue |
Once we get to the knockout stage perhaps. I remember being in tears following the penalties defeat to West Germany in 1990.
But these days no England defeat will hurt me as much as Maidstone, Norwich and Cardiff. |
The Maidstone game annoyed me but in truth we didn't need a good cup run last season. Cardiff out Ipswiching Ipswich was a downer but I was confident we would bounce back. |  | | |
| So do you really care? on 00:47 - Jun 26 with 2799 views | norfsufblue |
I cried as a 9yo in 1970 after that ¼final defeat... gutted in 1990 losing that semi, 1996 I thought we had in the bag so again that was heartbreaking, from there just got used to expecting disappointment after disappointment.... again tonight tried to get well up for it, people round and flags up etc... I just don't expect anything anymore that's how it had been supporting Town for the last 20 years before the mould was finally broken..... I can only hope the same happens to England after this tournament but I'm afraid we are now a busted flush and desperately need inspirational change to reignite my passion for the national team.
PS. happy to consume a huge slice of humble pie if they turn it round in the next 2 weeks! |  | | |
| I haven't really cared since.... on 04:54 - Jun 26 with 2670 views | MK1 |
| I haven't really cared since.... on 22:38 - Jun 25 by Bloots |
...Euro 96.
I want them to win, but don't lose any sleep over it. |
Italia 90 for me. Always watch and would love England to win everything, but not upset by performances. Tournament football is just about getting through the group and winning the knock out games by any means possible. 1-0 wins with an own goal in the 89th minute from now on will do for me.
Still think we can win this in a few weeks time. |  |
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| So do you really care? on 06:37 - Jun 26 with 2588 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Club over country and it’s not even close. Mainly watch the international tournaments because no league football is on, NEVER watch any of England’s friendly’s or qualifiers.
FIFA and UEFA’s constant increasing of competitions and extending tournaments is a subject of annoyance to me (since international football contains so much dirge). | | | |
| So do you really care? on 07:16 - Jun 26 with 2518 views | Help |
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| So do you really care? on 07:20 - Jun 26 with 2503 views | Dubtractor |
Not massively tbh. I want to see England win, but I really don't get too personally I vested. Compared to watching ipswich, where my stomach ties itself in knots before games and all the other stress symptoms.
The last time I saw England in the flesh was on a school trip. I'm 48. That probably tells you about my level of investment. |  |
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| So do you really care? on 07:36 - Jun 26 with 2455 views | PioneerBlue |
I never miss an England game but my enthusiasm has generally sat juxtaposed to how Ipswich is doing. ITFC doing well, slightly less concerned by Eng form. That said, I don’t like to see the Eng team struggling to find form. | |
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| So do you really care? on 07:36 - Jun 26 with 2455 views | Bluespeed225 |
Definitely a shift from the car flags etc of 96’,98’, 2000. All pre internet overload/social media, mirroring the change in society, ie pubs not being the center of young people’s lives as they were ours. Faves moments were 90, 96, but I have a theory that they tied in with music scenes of the time, 90’ seemed part of the rave/ baggy/ Manchester time, New Order etc, and in 96’ , peak Brit Pop , had football imagery at its core, plus we didn’t have to qualify! As a kid, Poland 73’ was a low point. | | | |
| So do you really care? on 07:40 - Jun 26 with 2419 views | Stu_boy |
I only watch the tornaments, other that that i have no interest in internationals. I hate it when there are international breaks throughout the season
It's always the hope that kills and currently we don't have any hope so it's all a bit meh | | | |
| So do you really care? on 07:41 - Jun 26 with 2414 views | MattinLondon |
During the WC and EC I’m invested a lot in the England team and a poor performance annoys me for the rest of the day or evening. But then, after they get knocked out, I’ll happily watch the rest of the tournament avidly.
A bad Ipswich result will stay with me for much much longer but I don’t particularly care about the PL (apart from where Ipswich finish etc). And I won’t watch other PL matches in the same interested way as I do watching non-England tournament football.
Not sure whether the above will make sense. |  | | |
| So do you really care? on 07:49 - Jun 26 with 2379 views | Funge |
Ips - Obviously the last couple of seasons have been exceptional, but the Exeter/ Huddersfield/ Southampton games (I mean, I could go on...) will stay with me forever.
More regularly, I'll get that nausea in my stomach slowly develop from about a week out when we're playing the budgie vermin; it's been that way for nearly 30 years.
England? 86/88/90 all got me, as a kid; Euro 96 obviously did, as did 2004/2006 - but then that's gradually faded. The Denmark win in 2021 resonated, cos I'd never seen us in a final before - but the final vs Italy, compared to, say, play-offs vs Barnsley - nowhere near as intense.
So yeah, basically I care far more about Ips that I do England.
As an aside, if McKenna was England manager, I'm pretty sure we'd win this tournament. |  | | |
| So do you really care? on 08:03 - Jun 26 with 2331 views | bluelagos |
My interest has definitely tailed off over the years. Been to a number of tournaments and am in a position where I have the time to do so again.
But seeing the boorish "the german bombers" boys, seeing the footie on the pitch, knowing the likely high prices for black market tickets and accomodation and am very much in the "leave it to the younguns" camp.
Maybe am just getting old and grumpy, but tbh a trip to the cricket is way more appealing. USA world cup could be different, but it would be a trip to America with some footie thrown in rather than a trip to a World cup. |  |
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