| Biden standing down (n/t) 18:50 - Jul 21 with 27538 views | Keno |
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| Face it, nobody is gonna beat him. (n/t) on 09:47 - Jul 22 with 2382 views | blueasfook |
| Face it, nobody is gonna beat him. (n/t) on 20:01 - Jul 21 by Buhrer |
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Harrison Ford for me. He already has experience of being pres. He was in AirForce One remember? |  |
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 09:52 - Jul 22 with 2365 views | DinDjarin |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 20:53 - Jul 21 by Lord_Lucan |
Sorry Guthrum, so many times you are correct and your knowledge of such a massive range of subjects is truly astonishing.
I think you are so wide of the mark on this though and I am so annoyed about it.
Iran, Russia, China and N Korea are flexing their muscles, do you think bat sh1t and ineffective EU have the capability or balls to stand up and be counted? I think not.
This is a blooming disaster and Biden should have realised this long long ago.
What an absolute shambles! |
Biden was pushed and if anyone thinks otherwise then you are blind. Not even sure that letter was written by him but the one released shortly after on X certainly was supporting Harris. And he did not even address the nation to do it personally so all seems rushed and messy.
If another nominee is made president ahead of Harris then the Democrats have sealed their own fate. [Post edited 22 Jul 2024 9:55]
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:07 - Jul 22 with 2322 views | Guthrum |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 21:46 - Jul 21 by Lord_Lucan |
Some of what you say is true although that is all completely irrelevant to the point I was making. |
I still don't think Trump winning is a foregone conclusion. US elections are decided by a few tens of thousands of voters in significant states. I can quite see him falling short, as he did in 2020.
Demographics are also on the side of the Demcrats, in places like Texas. Up to 2014, the Republicans were winning the state by a million and more votes. 2016 it was 800k, 2020 down to 630k. That trend continues and a state with a lot of Electoral College votes could flip. |  |
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| Face it, nobody is gonna beat him. (n/t) on 10:12 - Jul 22 with 2309 views | Buhrer |
| Face it, nobody is gonna beat him. (n/t) on 09:47 - Jul 22 by blueasfook |
Harrison Ford for me. He already has experience of being pres. He was in AirForce One remember? |
President De Niro "A real rain has come" |  | | |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:16 - Jul 22 with 2298 views | DinDjarin |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:07 - Jul 22 by Guthrum |
I still don't think Trump winning is a foregone conclusion. US elections are decided by a few tens of thousands of voters in significant states. I can quite see him falling short, as he did in 2020.
Demographics are also on the side of the Demcrats, in places like Texas. Up to 2014, the Republicans were winning the state by a million and more votes. 2016 it was 800k, 2020 down to 630k. That trend continues and a state with a lot of Electoral College votes could flip. |
I have been following all things USA politics for a few months now and as things stand Trump is nailed on for a landslide and predicted to win all the swing states, some quite comfortably.
Replacing Biden has happened too late for it make any difference whoever his replacement might be. | | | |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:23 - Jul 22 with 2274 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:07 - Jul 22 by Guthrum |
I still don't think Trump winning is a foregone conclusion. US elections are decided by a few tens of thousands of voters in significant states. I can quite see him falling short, as he did in 2020.
Demographics are also on the side of the Demcrats, in places like Texas. Up to 2014, the Republicans were winning the state by a million and more votes. 2016 it was 800k, 2020 down to 630k. That trend continues and a state with a lot of Electoral College votes could flip. |
If it is to be Harris then choice of VP could make the difference. I’m told Newcombe would be a good choice but more likely to come from a swing state so rules him out. |  |
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| Face it, nobody is gonna beat him. (n/t) on 10:24 - Jul 22 with 2271 views | blueasfook |
| Face it, nobody is gonna beat him. (n/t) on 10:12 - Jul 22 by Buhrer |
President De Niro "A real rain has come" |
Good shout. Would certainly get the Italian-American vote. Joe Pesci for VP! | |
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:34 - Jul 22 with 2259 views | GeoffSentence |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 19:24 - Jul 21 by GavTWTD |
But he had to though. Wouldn't have been right not to. |
It was an accident, he thought he was endoring Calvin Harris. |  |
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:35 - Jul 22 with 2256 views | PhilTWTD |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:07 - Jul 22 by Guthrum |
I still don't think Trump winning is a foregone conclusion. US elections are decided by a few tens of thousands of voters in significant states. I can quite see him falling short, as he did in 2020.
Demographics are also on the side of the Demcrats, in places like Texas. Up to 2014, the Republicans were winning the state by a million and more votes. 2016 it was 800k, 2020 down to 630k. That trend continues and a state with a lot of Electoral College votes could flip. |
Worth pointing out that as of last week fivethirtyeight.com had Biden down to win, but by such a fine margin that it was basically a toss-up. On Sunday they had it as 51/49 in Trump's favour.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/ |  | | |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:46 - Jul 22 with 2204 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:23 - Jul 22 by Pinewoodblue |
If it is to be Harris then choice of VP could make the difference. I’m told Newcombe would be a good choice but more likely to come from a swing state so rules him out. |
2 California politicians on the same ticket would be political suicide.
As you say it will be a swing state politician. A good VP is crucial. JD Vance is weak, it was a bad pick. He does nothing for Trump. He will be made to look very silly in the debates.
Especially if you put JD up against someone like Beshear who has extensive knowledge of Appalachia would be a great match up for the Dems. Or even a Josh Shapiro.
Trump made a pigs ear of his VP pick. [Post edited 22 Jul 2024 10:55]
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:29 - Jul 22 with 2145 views | Ryorry |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:07 - Jul 22 by Guthrum |
I still don't think Trump winning is a foregone conclusion. US elections are decided by a few tens of thousands of voters in significant states. I can quite see him falling short, as he did in 2020.
Demographics are also on the side of the Demcrats, in places like Texas. Up to 2014, the Republicans were winning the state by a million and more votes. 2016 it was 800k, 2020 down to 630k. That trend continues and a state with a lot of Electoral College votes could flip. |
What's absolutely shocking to me is women in the USA, particularly younger ones, voting for a misogynist predator like Trump.
If the Dems targeted them, they might just edge it, looking at these stats - "the number of female voters has exceeded the number of male voters in every pesidential election since 1964", and applies to all categories including non-white minorities & those with higher educational attainments.
https://cawp.rutgers.edu/facts/voters/gender-differences-voter-turnout |  |
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:38 - Jul 22 with 2101 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:46 - Jul 22 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
2 California politicians on the same ticket would be political suicide.
As you say it will be a swing state politician. A good VP is crucial. JD Vance is weak, it was a bad pick. He does nothing for Trump. He will be made to look very silly in the debates.
Especially if you put JD up against someone like Beshear who has extensive knowledge of Appalachia would be a great match up for the Dems. Or even a Josh Shapiro.
Trump made a pigs ear of his VP pick. [Post edited 22 Jul 2024 10:55]
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Would be helpful, to the Democratic cause, if there was TV face off between prospective VPs.
Obama seems to be holding back on declaring his preferred candidate .
Biden’s endorsement was a poor judgement call. | |
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:43 - Jul 22 with 2093 views | PhilTWTD |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:29 - Jul 22 by Ryorry |
What's absolutely shocking to me is women in the USA, particularly younger ones, voting for a misogynist predator like Trump.
If the Dems targeted them, they might just edge it, looking at these stats - "the number of female voters has exceeded the number of male voters in every pesidential election since 1964", and applies to all categories including non-white minorities & those with higher educational attainments.
https://cawp.rutgers.edu/facts/voters/gender-differences-voter-turnout |
Reproductive rights could well be a major factor in the election - they have been in state elections to MAGA's detriment - and the Dems do better among female voters in any case. | | | |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:46 - Jul 22 with 2082 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:38 - Jul 22 by Pinewoodblue |
Would be helpful, to the Democratic cause, if there was TV face off between prospective VPs.
Obama seems to be holding back on declaring his preferred candidate .
Biden’s endorsement was a poor judgement call. |
Absolutely. JD Vance just doesn't bring anything to Trump. Mike Pence brought experience, he had constitutional credibility. Vance is just Trump without any charisma. There will be a debate and it wont be good for Vance.
It is interesting that Obama hasn't endorsed. All the other big hitters are, either way I cant see anyone of note stepping forward to it. If you were Josh Shapiro, Pete Buttigieg , Jon Ossoff. Why would you step up for this one as opposed to waiting it out and going next time, when you will most likely have an easier challenge. That being said, I do think the Dems can win with Kamala. | |
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:49 - Jul 22 with 2076 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:43 - Jul 22 by PhilTWTD |
Reproductive rights could well be a major factor in the election - they have been in state elections to MAGA's detriment - and the Dems do better among female voters in any case. |
That is the big plus point to Harris. Abortion instantly becomes the big issue of the election. And she is credible in that area.
Women will turn out to vote for Harris. An area Trump struggles with. | |
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 12:12 - Jul 22 with 2037 views | NthQldITFC |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 20:32 - Jul 21 by NthQldITFC |
Very good statement by the Clintons, I think. If enough big beasts unite behind Harris and she comes out aggressively, I guess she can turn the tide. I think she needs to be very visible, very quickly though, before formal confirmation in order for Trump not to put her on the back foot. |
She's out of the traps quickly, by the look of things, and I think that's exactly the way to go. Like to see her doing some live Q&As as soon as possible, because I doubt Tr*mp will want to take her on in person and I think she needs to connect with the floaters ASAP.
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| Face it, nobody is gonna beat him. (n/t) on 12:13 - Jul 22 with 2034 views | NthQldITFC |
| Face it, nobody is gonna beat him. (n/t) on 21:06 - Jul 21 by GlasgowBlue |
Surely they should be looking at who would be the best President, not who would beat Trump. I’m sure there are a lot of celebrities who could beat Trump but they could be completely unsuited on the world stage. And yes, I understand this also applies to Trump. [Post edited 22 Jul 2024 9:42]
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I think the prospect of Tr*mp II is so terrifying that the opposite is true. | |
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| Face it, nobody is gonna beat him. (n/t) on 12:35 - Jul 22 with 1972 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Face it, nobody is gonna beat him. (n/t) on 12:13 - Jul 22 by NthQldITFC |
I think the prospect of Tr*mp II is so terrifying that the opposite is true. |
In some ways the battle to control the senate is more important than the presidential race. If Trump wins but the Democrats control the senate, they’ll likely frustrate most of the more looney Project 2025 agenda.
The corporate world has gone full circle - historically preferring the low tax, light touch governance of the Republicans, most now favour the Democrats for the stability and pragmatism they would bring (versus the chaos, protectionism, and unpredictability of a populist Trump-led Republican Party). |  | | |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 12:47 - Jul 22 with 1936 views | phillymark |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:07 - Jul 22 by Guthrum |
I still don't think Trump winning is a foregone conclusion. US elections are decided by a few tens of thousands of voters in significant states. I can quite see him falling short, as he did in 2020.
Demographics are also on the side of the Demcrats, in places like Texas. Up to 2014, the Republicans were winning the state by a million and more votes. 2016 it was 800k, 2020 down to 630k. That trend continues and a state with a lot of Electoral College votes could flip. |
Texas has been a dream just out of reach for the dems for so long. Won’t flip this time either | | | |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 12:50 - Jul 22 with 1912 views | phillymark |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 10:23 - Jul 22 by Pinewoodblue |
If it is to be Harris then choice of VP could make the difference. I’m told Newcombe would be a good choice but more likely to come from a swing state so rules him out. |
I assume you mean Newsome. He’s from California and so is Harris so there’s a constitutional problem with that.
I like mark kelly (senator, Arizona) as a smart choice. I sort of know Josh Shapiro (governor, pa) through a few circles but want him to wait to 2028 (unless Harris wins obviously) | | | |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 12:50 - Jul 22 with 1900 views | PhilTWTD |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:49 - Jul 22 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That is the big plus point to Harris. Abortion instantly becomes the big issue of the election. And she is credible in that area.
Women will turn out to vote for Harris. An area Trump struggles with. |
Agree, I think it makes the Democrats very strong in an area where Trump and the Republicans are weak when it comes to appealing to independents rather than his base. | | | |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 12:58 - Jul 22 with 1843 views | Plums |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:29 - Jul 22 by Ryorry |
What's absolutely shocking to me is women in the USA, particularly younger ones, voting for a misogynist predator like Trump.
If the Dems targeted them, they might just edge it, looking at these stats - "the number of female voters has exceeded the number of male voters in every pesidential election since 1964", and applies to all categories including non-white minorities & those with higher educational attainments.
https://cawp.rutgers.edu/facts/voters/gender-differences-voter-turnout |
It's nuts. Just over two years ago, I had a second generation asian Indian in Seattle tell me that 'you guys in the UK aren't racist enough'. He'd gone right through the Trump looking glass. Terrifying. |  |
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 13:04 - Jul 22 with 1810 views | lowhouseblue |
surely now we're free to just focus on trump's cognitive impairment. at least with biden it was nothing worse than getting older. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Biden standing down (n/t) on 13:11 - Jul 22 with 1770 views | tcblue |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 11:29 - Jul 22 by Ryorry |
What's absolutely shocking to me is women in the USA, particularly younger ones, voting for a misogynist predator like Trump.
If the Dems targeted them, they might just edge it, looking at these stats - "the number of female voters has exceeded the number of male voters in every pesidential election since 1964", and applies to all categories including non-white minorities & those with higher educational attainments.
https://cawp.rutgers.edu/facts/voters/gender-differences-voter-turnout |
Farmers overwhelmingly voted for Brexit.
You can never guarantee that all turkeys won't vote for Christmas | | | |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 13:23 - Jul 22 with 1732 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Biden standing down (n/t) on 12:50 - Jul 22 by PhilTWTD |
Agree, I think it makes the Democrats very strong in an area where Trump and the Republicans are weak when it comes to appealing to independents rather than his base. |
Yep. Especially with turnout a big issue. I think if the Dems can make Abortion the issue, Get out and vote and stop a nationwide abortion ban. People will show out. Biden was pretty lax on this issue but Harris will have more enthusiasm.
I'm with you, this election is not a foregone conclusion. Harris has a lot of positives when it comes to the US electoral system. i think the republicans need to be careful, especially in places like Georgia and Arizona. These swing states are back in play. [Post edited 22 Jul 2024 13:24]
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