| I no longer recognise my Ipswich 10:38 - Aug 22 with 19201 views | blueysbackside |
There, I’ve said it and I feel relieved. All these signings….back to back promotions. Wow wow wow. What a time to be a Town fan Maybe it’s an age thing, I don’t know, but this potential £100m summer splurge is, well, nuts for our beloved club. We could already field an XI completely different to the team that got us up. Yes, progress. Yes, we want to stay up. Yes, this is the Prem. It just seems a massive gamble. Even bedding in these new boys will take a while….we’re back to the Cook days when he became the demolition man. Hope the dressing room spirit created over the past two seasons isn’t destroyed by this spend. I feel for Burgess, for Luongo. Oh, well…I guess this is top-level football in 2024. |  | | |  |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:39 - Aug 22 with 2769 views | blueasfook |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:16 - Aug 22 by ElephantintheRoom |
I tend to agree. Supporters of a certain age can remember the anticipation of wondering how last year’s team might step up to the plate with a daft of young players coming through. It was a long time ago that McGarry or Lyall took on the top division with basically the same team that got promoted and Burley only seemed fixated on central defence, signing the permanent-injured John Scales and the relegation specialist puffin eater.
Seems little point in celebrating promotion if your manager promptly touts himself for every available job then gets in a container load of mercenaries
Ironically the same thing almost happened last year but none of the number crunchers’ targets want to come so team spirit remained intact. This splurge on dubious signings risks tossing that baby out with the bath water for not much overall gain. Time will tell - but for Ipswich fans seeing a shed load of mercenaries arrive, including daft rentals whist there are no young players coming through seems more than a little like a poor man’s Chelsea |
"relegation specialist puffin eater".
If you're referring to Hermann Hreidarsson there, he was immense, and definitely contributed to our success in the first season up. John Scales was a bit of a dud mind. He only made 2 appearances. |  |
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:44 - Aug 22 with 2711 views | ITFCson |
I feel similar to the OP but kept it to myself due to the barrage of downvotes that would follow. Yes we need new players, but part of the euphoria of our recent success has been the relatability between the players and fans, I fear that could disappear. That said it could flourish with the new players also and we might become a really good prem side. | | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:44 - Aug 22 with 2709 views | GeoffSentence |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 11:15 - Aug 22 by chicoazul |
Amazed you’re receiving so many downvotes Opie for expressing what is a simple normal opinion which seems genuinely held. Success has poisoned some minds on here. |
I think you are reading too much into what peoples down vtes mean. They could mean anything from simply, 'I disagree with that', to 'you're an idiot' , by way of 'your figures are wrong' and 'bad punctuation'
Not something to get bothered by. |  |
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:55 - Aug 22 with 2661 views | OldFart71 |
I'm afraid my friend this is football. Not really out with the old, in with the new as many of our absolute heroes are still about. What we must remember is that although totally appreciative of our American friends for saving us from obscurity their ultimate aim is to make money for the pension fund. The main way for this is for Town to spend more than one season in the Premier League, but also the security pf knowing we don't lose a bundle should the worst happen and we got relegated. That's the simple reason for our spending. Having watched Town against Fulham last season it was obvious the gulf between us and them, It does make you sad when players like Kayden Jackson move on. Maybe and most likely Freddie and a couple of others who we will be eternally grateful for their contribution of getting us from Division One to the Premier League. Just as Ray Crawford, Colin Viljoen, Brian Talbot, all of the teams of 78 and 81 won't be forgotten neither will they. | | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:58 - Aug 22 with 2667 views | warky_1970 |
If your Ipswich is the absolute dross laden rubbish that was served up for pretty much every season over the last 20+ years run by an absolute clown and his cronies then surely that’s a good thing that your Ipswich no longer exists. |  | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:58 - Aug 22 with 2652 views | Vic |
When I think of the amount we're spending it does make me draw my breath and at times I think about the level of risk involved. But someone on here mentioned that the owners aren't a billionaire treating us as his plaything, these are investors who are in this to make a profit. I'm comforted therefore by the fact that the approach they are taking will be heavy weighed against risk.
Do I like it? Not especially - we are now a business rather that a family club. But if all goes well not only does the investment company get their return but we get a huge leg up and our club back in a viable condition with a team and results we can be proud of. |  |
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:59 - Aug 22 with 2644 views | Keno |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:58 - Aug 22 by warky_1970 |
If your Ipswich is the absolute dross laden rubbish that was served up for pretty much every season over the last 20+ years run by an absolute clown and his cronies then surely that’s a good thing that your Ipswich no longer exists. |
And with that Warky is back!! |  |
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:59 - Aug 22 with 2649 views | Churchman |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:16 - Aug 22 by ElephantintheRoom |
I tend to agree. Supporters of a certain age can remember the anticipation of wondering how last year’s team might step up to the plate with a daft of young players coming through. It was a long time ago that McGarry or Lyall took on the top division with basically the same team that got promoted and Burley only seemed fixated on central defence, signing the permanent-injured John Scales and the relegation specialist puffin eater.
Seems little point in celebrating promotion if your manager promptly touts himself for every available job then gets in a container load of mercenaries
Ironically the same thing almost happened last year but none of the number crunchers’ targets want to come so team spirit remained intact. This splurge on dubious signings risks tossing that baby out with the bath water for not much overall gain. Time will tell - but for Ipswich fans seeing a shed load of mercenaries arrive, including daft rentals whist there are no young players coming through seems more than a little like a poor man’s Chelsea |
Ahh, yes. The age when:
McGarry scuttled off at the first sign of a better job a couple of months into the season after promotion.
People crammed on terraces with no thought to their safety until that terrible day at Hillborough
The age where the bog, if you could get to it, was an upturned bit of pipe in a reeking shed
Disabled people parked in plastic cars (eventually banned because they were unsafe) by the side of the pitch
Players injected with steroids until their knees dissolved
Money found for Allan Hunter as Robson’s team was struggling
Ronnie Wigg, Mick Hill then the desperate gamble to bring in Clarke and Robertson- which worked
Graham Harbey
Mick McGiven
Ah, the nostalgia of the past eh. Smoking in the stands, body odour, moving away from the bloke with head lice and to somewhere where you might see….
No thanks.
Your posts have been relentless in their negativity. From 3.5 years ago and the arrival of the ‘debt peddlers’ the volume has tended to increase in times of uncertainty to nothing when we are winning. Than god we’ve had a good couple of years. Though I guess you’d have preferred the club destitute in League 2 with Evans at the helm.
Still, I have to admit your family club did well to rob Marseille over Rowe. |  | | |
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 15:11 - Aug 22 with 2581 views | burnbudgiesburn |
Think the bottom line is do we want Ipswich to be a club that is capable of surviving as a top flight club for more than 1 or 2 seasons or enjoy the 'success' that Southampton, Fulham, Palace, Brighton etc have had in establishing themselves for the longer term?
We've had 5 top flight seasons in the last 38 years - that's really poor for a side that had 18 consecutive years in the 1st division and many of those spent at the top in the years proceeding that.
We've kept the best 16 players at the club from last season. Is the suggestion that we should seek to replace the ones that left with inferior players so the first team remains the same? | | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 15:14 - Aug 22 with 2553 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:58 - Aug 22 by Vic |
When I think of the amount we're spending it does make me draw my breath and at times I think about the level of risk involved. But someone on here mentioned that the owners aren't a billionaire treating us as his plaything, these are investors who are in this to make a profit. I'm comforted therefore by the fact that the approach they are taking will be heavy weighed against risk.
Do I like it? Not especially - we are now a business rather that a family club. But if all goes well not only does the investment company get their return but we get a huge leg up and our club back in a viable condition with a team and results we can be proud of. |
Might I suggest we are now a business that recognises it is in the entertainment whereas previously it was all about surviving without spending too much?
I prefer this business to the one that came before! |  |
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 15:20 - Aug 22 with 2526 views | Buhrer |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 11:15 - Aug 22 by chicoazul |
Amazed you’re receiving so many downvotes Opie for expressing what is a simple normal opinion which seems genuinely held. Success has poisoned some minds on here. |
Yeah they really missed the subtle nuances of this intelligent and timely post.. |  | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 15:25 - Aug 22 with 2501 views | Alberto_the_frog |
In the summer of demolition, the permanent signings we made were-
Wes Burns
Callum Page
Rekeem Harper
Václav Hladký
Lee Evans
Matt Penney
Joe Pigott
Scott Fraser
George Edmundson
Conor Chaplin
Sone Aluko
Kyle Edwards
Cameron Burgess
Tom Carroll
Sam Morsy
A bit hit and miss I think, but at a much lesser cost.
We're still some way short of that number, but it is a bit disconcerting - we've signed rather more than I expected.
Kieran himself mentioned the G word today.
Our claim under the new ownership structure has been to look for added resale value.
I haven't seen much evidence of having achieved that yet, but then we haven't been selling those players who have improved the most.
As long as we stay up and avoid points deductions I will be reasonably happy this season. |  | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 15:52 - Aug 22 with 2408 views | itfc1108 |
I do agree with a lot of your points.
For me, it's the loans who will join permanently, if we stay up. I would rather players who would want to stay if we went down, to get us back up. | | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 18:03 - Aug 22 with 2302 views | ElephantintheRoom |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:59 - Aug 22 by Churchman |
Ahh, yes. The age when:
McGarry scuttled off at the first sign of a better job a couple of months into the season after promotion.
People crammed on terraces with no thought to their safety until that terrible day at Hillborough
The age where the bog, if you could get to it, was an upturned bit of pipe in a reeking shed
Disabled people parked in plastic cars (eventually banned because they were unsafe) by the side of the pitch
Players injected with steroids until their knees dissolved
Money found for Allan Hunter as Robson’s team was struggling
Ronnie Wigg, Mick Hill then the desperate gamble to bring in Clarke and Robertson- which worked
Graham Harbey
Mick McGiven
Ah, the nostalgia of the past eh. Smoking in the stands, body odour, moving away from the bloke with head lice and to somewhere where you might see….
No thanks.
Your posts have been relentless in their negativity. From 3.5 years ago and the arrival of the ‘debt peddlers’ the volume has tended to increase in times of uncertainty to nothing when we are winning. Than god we’ve had a good couple of years. Though I guess you’d have preferred the club destitute in League 2 with Evans at the helm.
Still, I have to admit your family club did well to rob Marseille over Rowe. |
Clearly you like the absurdity of modern football and what the cowboys are offering you. Perhaps you’ve even got a pink shirt. You’ve missed out on quite a lot
One or two people remember a football club at Portman Road - and players they recognised = which to my mind is quite refreshing, even if the poor bloke did get showered with down votes from glory-seeking nut jobs.
You seem a little erm eccentric - but I suspect there are more people who agree with and identify with the original post than the likes of you. The reason is simple….it’s Ipswich in name only now | |
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 22:32 - Aug 22 with 2167 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 15:52 - Aug 22 by itfc1108 |
I do agree with a lot of your points.
For me, it's the loans who will join permanently, if we stay up. I would rather players who would want to stay if we went down, to get us back up. |
I think the point of the loans is as much that we would not afford them if we are relegated as the players not wanting to drop down a level. There is also an element of simply pushing the transfer fee down the line but insuring against the cost coming out if the worst were to happen. | |
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 22:45 - Aug 22 with 2155 views | warky_1970 |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 18:03 - Aug 22 by ElephantintheRoom |
Clearly you like the absurdity of modern football and what the cowboys are offering you. Perhaps you’ve even got a pink shirt. You’ve missed out on quite a lot
One or two people remember a football club at Portman Road - and players they recognised = which to my mind is quite refreshing, even if the poor bloke did get showered with down votes from glory-seeking nut jobs.
You seem a little erm eccentric - but I suspect there are more people who agree with and identify with the original post than the likes of you. The reason is simple….it’s Ipswich in name only now |
Yeah let’s go back to league one and the Marcus Evans days. That’s what REAL fans want clearly. | | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 22:46 - Aug 22 with 2151 views | reusersfreekicks |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 14:16 - Aug 22 by ElephantintheRoom |
I tend to agree. Supporters of a certain age can remember the anticipation of wondering how last year’s team might step up to the plate with a daft of young players coming through. It was a long time ago that McGarry or Lyall took on the top division with basically the same team that got promoted and Burley only seemed fixated on central defence, signing the permanent-injured John Scales and the relegation specialist puffin eater.
Seems little point in celebrating promotion if your manager promptly touts himself for every available job then gets in a container load of mercenaries
Ironically the same thing almost happened last year but none of the number crunchers’ targets want to come so team spirit remained intact. This splurge on dubious signings risks tossing that baby out with the bath water for not much overall gain. Time will tell - but for Ipswich fans seeing a shed load of mercenaries arrive, including daft rentals whist there are no young players coming through seems more than a little like a poor man’s Chelsea |
Mercenaries! Drivel |  | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 23:02 - Aug 22 with 2115 views | WicklowBlue |
As others have said I'm not sure why an honest opinion has got so many down votes??
I understand the caution as we've invested before and went into admin. Relegated from the Prem twice before and were on a death spiral.
Equally we're not in demolition man territory but understand the sentiment.
To be competitive at the very least in the EPL we were always going to have to invest in talent and honestly I don't think we have gone all Forest and replaced the squad. McK continues to talk about integrating new players for weeks. We cannot stand still and do a Nodge, increased funding needs to go into the squad. At the very least we're building a squad to a)stay in the prem and b)come what may be much stronger in the Championship.
All the players who got us to this stage have been treated with total respect and getting a chance to play at the highest level to give them a chance to step up.
I'd prefer this way, than to listening to comments about players doing enough to stay in the Championship but not pushing themselves as they would be out the door in the EPL. [Sic] Shane Supple...
Change is strange and scary after all these barren years ....sometimes you just need to embrace it.
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 23:06 - Aug 22 with 2110 views | reusersfreekicks |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 23:02 - Aug 22 by WicklowBlue |
As others have said I'm not sure why an honest opinion has got so many down votes??
I understand the caution as we've invested before and went into admin. Relegated from the Prem twice before and were on a death spiral.
Equally we're not in demolition man territory but understand the sentiment.
To be competitive at the very least in the EPL we were always going to have to invest in talent and honestly I don't think we have gone all Forest and replaced the squad. McK continues to talk about integrating new players for weeks. We cannot stand still and do a Nodge, increased funding needs to go into the squad. At the very least we're building a squad to a)stay in the prem and b)come what may be much stronger in the Championship.
All the players who got us to this stage have been treated with total respect and getting a chance to play at the highest level to give them a chance to step up.
I'd prefer this way, than to listening to comments about players doing enough to stay in the Championship but not pushing themselves as they would be out the door in the EPL. [Sic] Shane Supple...
Change is strange and scary after all these barren years ....sometimes you just need to embrace it.
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I guess so. I also don't get all the downvotes. I hope the players we have grown to love over the last 2 seasons can still play a big part. | | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 23:15 - Aug 22 with 2061 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 23:06 - Aug 22 by reusersfreekicks |
I guess so. I also don't get all the downvotes. I hope the players we have grown to love over the last 2 seasons can still play a big part. |
Downvotes probably because it was rather dramatic
We spent the summer hoping KM stayed.
It's no shock that we need to match his ambitions. We wouldn't be doing that if we didn't give him the squad needed.
Absolutely thanks to all players. That's a given. But KM would 100% have individual chats with all about who he feels can and can't make the step up. There's no shame in reaching a ceiling. This is why I think he was happy to put out the side he did v Liverpool. It gave most the opportunity to experience prem football and probably answered a few thoughts he might had doubts about or even confirmed thoughts on who he felt could handle it. |  |
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 23:26 - Aug 22 with 2039 views | WicklowBlue |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 23:06 - Aug 22 by reusersfreekicks |
I guess so. I also don't get all the downvotes. I hope the players we have grown to love over the last 2 seasons can still play a big part. |
The players over the last 2 seasons are and will be legends for what they have done for us. Just like Reuser who was interviewed on Newstalk (Off the Ball) this evening.
This is an expected evolution rather than a demolition and until I'm proved wrong, I expect the same trojans will get a chance to step up against the best team in the league.
However as a Club wanting to be at the top table there were always going to be casualties...which we have had multiple posts on. I adore Chappers and feel he has a part to play but have seen other posts saying he is at risk. He will get his chance to prove he can step up like others. | | | |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 23:38 - Aug 22 with 1967 views | Churchman |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 18:03 - Aug 22 by ElephantintheRoom |
Clearly you like the absurdity of modern football and what the cowboys are offering you. Perhaps you’ve even got a pink shirt. You’ve missed out on quite a lot
One or two people remember a football club at Portman Road - and players they recognised = which to my mind is quite refreshing, even if the poor bloke did get showered with down votes from glory-seeking nut jobs.
You seem a little erm eccentric - but I suspect there are more people who agree with and identify with the original post than the likes of you. The reason is simple….it’s Ipswich in name only now |
No, I’m not particularly eccentric but thanks for the complement. I try to keep an open mind and given the work I used to to do I might be a little more open to change and reality that some I can think of. If that puts me in a minority that’s fine. It’s nothing new.
Do I like the absurdity of modern football? No, not really. Do I accept it? Mostly, because the simple and only alternative is to turn my back on the greatest team sport in the world. That would also mean turning my back on all I’ve enjoyed, my father before me and his father before him all the way back to my club’s early days.
Football today has its problems and potentially self destruction. It’s a circus. We all know that. But it is what it is. Sometimes you can embrace what is in front of you. I’ve embraced the last 3.5 years, you’ve clearly and mistakenly screwed yourself up in bitterness and yearning for a time long gone and was never as good as one remembers it anyway.
My and his father were there when the club joined the football league. They saw the 62 Champions and both took me to my first game as young boy in the 68 promotion season. My dad and I saw the Robson years and beyond, the good, the b awful Duncan and Evans years and the ecstatic. A treasured shared memory. All of it.
There is a possibility I might know a little more about the history of the club than you. There’s a possibility it’s you that has missed out on the simple and pure pleasure of the last few years. This club was never the pure entity that you claim it to have been. It isn’t now.
It is not Ipswich in name only. It is the 27,000 who were there on Saturday. It is the people whose names came up in memoriam on the screen. It is those who couldn’t be there for whatever reason. It is the town, county and way beyond. Past, present, future. I watched kids getting selfies and signatures off Cole and Crouch and the joy on their faces. That is what a club is.
The mercenaries visited the hospice where my dad died before Christmas. The staff and a couple of patients I chatted to were looking forward to it and from the pics all enjoyed it. Mercenaries? Well that’s your take. The very people you hammer have done more for this club in 3.5 years than anyone has managed since I dunno, Bobby Robson.
May it end in tears? Maybe. Is it the same as when Churchmans Grandees and Visionhire were being advertised round the pitch? Nope. It is what it is. Live with it or do something else.
Pink shirt? No, not a fan of pink. In fact the only football shirt I’ve ever owned was a Toffs 1950s replica one my late mum bought for me. But if I was and liked pink I’d have one. My choice.
Until then, it’s key rings, polo shirts, baseball cap, fleece, bucket hat, cushions and mugs for me. Why? Because it’s fun. I like fun and silly - a concept clearly alien to you. [Post edited 23 Aug 2024 11:29]
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 00:24 - Aug 23 with 1867 views | IPS_wich |
Not going to downvote you, but our club isn’t your Ipswich, it’s not my Ipswich, it’s an investment vehicle for a pension fund and venture capitalists. What we’ve seen is classic asset management behaviour - speculate to accumulate.
In this context, this summer is entirely predictable. The pension fund isn’t sentimental and it’s clearly not interested in ‘just having a crack’.
But - it’s not as bleak as you make it out to be. McKenna’s game management style means we need to stop seeing our team as simply a ‘first XI’ - it’s a ‘first XVII’. He’s reiterated it again this week, he will every week swap out the front four on 60-65 minutes. He will switch one of the centre midfielders if we’re being overrun and he may switch the right back if we need to pivot to be more attacking or more defensive.
I expect a core of last years team - Woolfie, Axel, Leif, Morsy, Burns, Hirst, Omari and Taylor to each have 25+ appearances this year.
Sadly, I fear that Chaplin, Clarke, Woolfie, Burgess and Luongo may be the stalwarts who end up being squeezed out - but other than Chaplin I’m sure most of us in our heart of hearts would have questioned whether they were premiership standard. [Post edited 23 Aug 2024 1:46]
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich (n/t) on 02:41 - Aug 23 with 1772 views | BlueFinn |
| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 11:36 - Aug 22 by marvellous |
I was going to say something similar. Of the starting XI against Liverpool, 7 played for us in League 1 and 9 played for us in the Championship - that's not a demolition job!
If Hirst wasn't injured then I expect those numbers would've been 1 higher.
I think the evolution of the squad has been excellent. Allowing those that got us here the opportunity to step up to the top level whilst acknowledging that what has got us here might not get us there (wherever that is! Champions League?!)
I do agree that paying large transfer fees and multiple signings each transfer window is not particularly "Ipswich" but the game at the top level has moved on massively since our last visit so we need to do this just to try to maintain our PL status, let alone move forwards. |
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| I no longer recognise my Ipswich on 05:19 - Aug 23 with 1708 views | MK1 |
The downvotes are a bit harsh. Might be your liking of McKenna to Cook. Bad choice that. McKenna needed to strengthen quickly and has done so. The £100M+ bit I get though. Seems very strange Ipswich spending that kind of money. Those the times I guess. |  |
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