| Trump is a real nutcase. 02:56 - Sep 11 with 18167 views | Mercian |
Some of his paraphrased quotes from The Presidential Debate.
"Immigrants are kidnapping and eating cats and dogs."
"Ashli Babbitt (The woman killed during the Capitol insurrection attempt) was a great patriot murdered by police"
"Elections are bad."
"Babies are being legally murdered minutes after they are born."
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:22 - Sep 11 with 1814 views | factual_blue |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 10:36 - Sep 11 by OldFart71 |
People listened to Blair and .... They always do. I am 74 and now I have come to the conclusion that if you listen to politicians and believe them you are as mad as Boris and Trump. They all promise this and that and whilst the American system and all the razzamataz is plain crazy people still fail to see that these people aren't in it for you and me, they are in it for themselves. Labour for instance knew the mess the economy was in after 14 years of Tory failure. yes they said they wouldn't put certain taxes up but conveniently forgot to mention the ones they will. They didn't mention the cutting of winter fuel payments for the elderly. Personally I will have a triple whammy as I don't get the full pension increase as I am on the old State Pension, I will pay more tax because the personal allowance will stay at £12,570 and I won't now receive the winter fuel payment. O.K. you might think as he is obviously getting additional income and yes I am. But some, not all on benefits get so much more free whereas I have to pay for everything. A person I know well who is on benefit had new fencing put in by the Council. Mine cost me £1,500. This person has just had a walk in shower installed, again free of charge. My bathroom needs a refurb. It will no doubt cost me a grand or so. This person drinks, smokes and gambles. I rarely drink, don't smoke and when I have a bet it's a fiver or a tenner. Evening things about doesn't work. They just even up those able to claim benefits with those that are comfortable but not with those well off. |
Yeah, but parking in the Buttermarket.... |  |
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:25 - Sep 11 with 1802 views | BlueBadger |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 10:28 - Sep 11 by DinDjarin |
Sadly she is losing big in the polls and more critically in all the swing states and its looking like a landslide for Trump.
The Republicans are looking likely to win the senate as well as things stand. |
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:27 - Sep 11 with 1786 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 12:46 - Sep 11 by Illinoisblue |
Shades of “the Albanians are eating the Queen’s swans”. |
This was brutal too, just as JDV was trying to talk him up on TV
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:29 - Sep 11 with 1770 views | bsw72 |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 09:30 - Sep 11 by Lord_Lucan |
I find the American election system a bit bizarre.
Some Yank bod was on the radio yesterday saying that all but 7 states are secure for either party and the 7 remaining are on a knife edge.
I can't say I am keen on either candidate, in fact it all looks a bit hopeless.
I don't care about the American economy, in fact a weak dollar is extremely good for UK PLC
Personally, my problem with Trump is Putin and Ukraine.
He may say some crazy things and I am sure he's not a nice person, however, I have never seen such an effective politician (if you can call him that) work the room. |
It is easy to work a room when you are the cult leader and the room is full of your followers. I am genuinely scared by what Trump represents, and to an extent how his methods to achieve "success" is being used by others such as Farage etc.
It was a bit of a joke when he first proposed to run in 2016, and watching him was funny, but the fact that he cannot accept any truth that does not align to what he wants and subsequently creates fantasy scenarios whenever he needs to and that tens of millions of people will still vote Republican in spite of this is now terrifying.
The last time he lost, it lead to an armed insurrection in Washington - the fervour and hatred demonstrated bby his MAGA Cult followers has only increased in the last 4 years - I dread to think what the USA will be like in 2025 . . . . |  | | |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:47 - Sep 11 with 1719 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:29 - Sep 11 by bsw72 |
It is easy to work a room when you are the cult leader and the room is full of your followers. I am genuinely scared by what Trump represents, and to an extent how his methods to achieve "success" is being used by others such as Farage etc.
It was a bit of a joke when he first proposed to run in 2016, and watching him was funny, but the fact that he cannot accept any truth that does not align to what he wants and subsequently creates fantasy scenarios whenever he needs to and that tens of millions of people will still vote Republican in spite of this is now terrifying.
The last time he lost, it lead to an armed insurrection in Washington - the fervour and hatred demonstrated bby his MAGA Cult followers has only increased in the last 4 years - I dread to think what the USA will be like in 2025 . . . . |
I've got 3 US trips for work - 2 before the election and 1 a few days after and that latter one is the one that is morbidly more interesting as the count will still be going on like last time to decide those last few states.
I've no idea what sort of country and political system I'm going to be walking into. When he loses, there is going to be another version of January 6th, even if it isn't on the same scale. It will just happen much closer to election day.
Trump and his MAGA disciples won't accept he lost and innocent people will die because of it. | | | |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:50 - Sep 11 with 1702 views | Illinoisblue |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:20 - Sep 11 by ElderGrizzly |
They're already laying the groundwork for it on postal votes etc.
I know it's 'only' Taylor Swift, but her dig at them on early voting and postal votes in her statement were perfect too. That will have had the Harris campaign fingerprints all over it and will be critical to Harris winning.
Even now Trump is claiming he won the debate "by a lot" and a threat that "Taylor Swift will pay the price for her endorsement". Budget mob-boss again.
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Him getting his ass handed to him in the debate was fun but not sure it really changes anything unless we are led to believe there really are millions of undecided voters.
Never a dull moment in this wonderful yet absurd country! |  |
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:51 - Sep 11 with 1700 views | Blueschev |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:16 - Sep 11 by DinDjarin |
Same difference.
Take into account the weighting of who is polled and the fact a lot of Trump voters are shy and wont openly admit it then she is behind.
Anyone who knows anything about the last 2 elections will understand that being equal, a point ahead or behind will not cut it due to Trump always underperforming in polls which have been way way off 2016 and 2020.
I don't care either way TBH but do have a morbid fascination in US politics. |
It's not the same difference at all, unless you were trying to say that although Trump is way ahead in the polls, the polls are flawed and it's too close to call. You claimed the opposite, that Trump was way ahead in the polls. Then when it was pointed out that he isn't you claimed that was because the polls were wrong. You've completely contradicted yourself. [Post edited 11 Sep 2024 14:01]
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:57 - Sep 11 with 1666 views | WD19 |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:16 - Sep 11 by DinDjarin |
Same difference.
Take into account the weighting of who is polled and the fact a lot of Trump voters are shy and wont openly admit it then she is behind.
Anyone who knows anything about the last 2 elections will understand that being equal, a point ahead or behind will not cut it due to Trump always underperforming in polls which have been way way off 2016 and 2020.
I don't care either way TBH but do have a morbid fascination in US politics. |
Do you think it is possible that if DinDjarin has worked out how to improve the accuracy of polling over time that some professional polling compnaies might have worked it out too? |  | | |
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:59 - Sep 11 with 1644 views | iamatractorboy |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:47 - Sep 11 by ElderGrizzly |
I've got 3 US trips for work - 2 before the election and 1 a few days after and that latter one is the one that is morbidly more interesting as the count will still be going on like last time to decide those last few states.
I've no idea what sort of country and political system I'm going to be walking into. When he loses, there is going to be another version of January 6th, even if it isn't on the same scale. It will just happen much closer to election day.
Trump and his MAGA disciples won't accept he lost and innocent people will die because of it. |
The difference being, of course, that this time T***p isn't currently occupying the WH and as such can't sit on his hands while armed lunatics try to kill various members of Congress and the VP. Biden (or whoever is delegated to) will be all over that sh*t on 06/01/25. |  | | |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:01 - Sep 11 with 1631 views | Zapers |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:47 - Sep 11 by ElderGrizzly |
I've got 3 US trips for work - 2 before the election and 1 a few days after and that latter one is the one that is morbidly more interesting as the count will still be going on like last time to decide those last few states.
I've no idea what sort of country and political system I'm going to be walking into. When he loses, there is going to be another version of January 6th, even if it isn't on the same scale. It will just happen much closer to election day.
Trump and his MAGA disciples won't accept he lost and innocent people will die because of it. |
Such a drama queen, nothing going to happen to you petal.
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:02 - Sep 11 with 1633 views | baxterbasics |
Anyone wanting to keep close eyes on the Election, polls, and US politics in general, I can't recommend enough this website:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Regular poll tracking and commentary from all sides.
Currently the poll of polls has Harris at +1.1 % |  |
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:03 - Sep 11 with 1634 views | Blueschev |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:57 - Sep 11 by WD19 |
Do you think it is possible that if DinDjarin has worked out how to improve the accuracy of polling over time that some professional polling compnaies might have worked it out too? |
Why on earth would the polling companies, who are all controlled by the Marxist deep state, want to do such a thing? | | | |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:06 - Sep 11 with 1620 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:01 - Sep 11 by Zapers |
Such a drama queen, nothing going to happen to you petal.
Jeez, some people |
Never said anything will happen to me.
It's the innocent people who believe the tripe and those who try to stand against it who could be harmed. | | | |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:07 - Sep 11 with 1615 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:59 - Sep 11 by iamatractorboy |
The difference being, of course, that this time T***p isn't currently occupying the WH and as such can't sit on his hands while armed lunatics try to kill various members of Congress and the VP. Biden (or whoever is delegated to) will be all over that sh*t on 06/01/25. |
I think the January transfer to Harris will be fine.
It's what might happen on the streets in the few days after the election that could be an issue this time. That's where the focus is within some key states and DC. [Post edited 11 Sep 2024 14:07]
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:10 - Sep 11 with 1610 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:50 - Sep 11 by Illinoisblue |
Him getting his ass handed to him in the debate was fun but not sure it really changes anything unless we are led to believe there really are millions of undecided voters.
Never a dull moment in this wonderful yet absurd country! |
He just said on Fox News he wasn't inclined to debate again as he won this debate by so much. Which is the natural position of a winner of course.
He also started to try and negotiate different moderators from Fox incase it did go ahead.
I agree, I don't think there are millions but there could be enough in swing states to push Harris over the line. The clips on social media and in ads will hurt him more than anyone watching the debate live. | | | |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:14 - Sep 11 with 1598 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 12:56 - Sep 11 by blueasfook |
What's the general feeling over in the US? You think Trump has a good chance? I know the US is very partisan so in states like Florida and Texas, they'll vote republican no matter what. But I'd hope the floating voters will side with Kamala Harris. |
Demographics suggest that Texas *could* go Democrat within the next two Presidential Elections, and almost certainly will within the next thirty years, barring significant other external factors.
The metropolitan areas get bigger, and younger. The demographics in many rural areas of Texas are heading for the cliff, in terms of size of population, as they are older and aren't being replaced.
Austin votes Democrat. Dallas/Fort Worth is becoming more Democrat over time. Young adult immigrants or second generation Americans are keen to live in these cities, and aren't made to feel welcome in the rural areas. They are of an age/life stage where that are statistically more likely to have children, and the demographic effect multiplies. | | | |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:20 - Sep 11 with 1574 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Most of that stuff is on social media. It’s not a lot different from the deranged toddlers on here spouting stuff they read in their favourite comic…. The Guardian | |
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:23 - Sep 11 with 1565 views | Zapers |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:06 - Sep 11 by ElderGrizzly |
Never said anything will happen to me.
It's the innocent people who believe the tripe and those who try to stand against it who could be harmed. |
So why mention you have 3 trips coming up, and you wonder what sort of America you are going to walk into.
I lived in LA when Trump became president, I didn't suddenly wake up and wonder what sort of America was going to greet me, nothing changed.
Only the precious would consider such stupidity | | | |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:57 - Sep 11 with 1481 views | BlueBadger |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:23 - Sep 11 by Zapers |
So why mention you have 3 trips coming up, and you wonder what sort of America you are going to walk into.
I lived in LA when Trump became president, I didn't suddenly wake up and wonder what sort of America was going to greet me, nothing changed.
Only the precious would consider such stupidity |
I think most of us would rather visit countries that aren't run by bigoted orange rapists with multiple criminal convictions and designs on becoming dictators, to be honest.
Or be visiting one with raised tensions as result of the above throwing a tantrum. [Post edited 11 Sep 2024 15:04]
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 15:19 - Sep 11 with 1409 views | NthQldITFC |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:20 - Sep 11 by ElephantintheRoom |
Most of that stuff is on social media. It’s not a lot different from the deranged toddlers on here spouting stuff they read in their favourite comic…. The Guardian |
To clarify, are you saying that because actual, genuine US presidential candidate Tr*mp gets his 'information' from social media, the fact that it's bat sh!t crazy lunatic idiotic crap doesn't reflect badly on him as he didn't actually dream it up himself, just decided (apparently) to believe it and regurgitate it to his electorate?
Or am I reading too much into it?
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 15:21 - Sep 11 with 1401 views | NthQldITFC |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 14:02 - Sep 11 by baxterbasics |
Anyone wanting to keep close eyes on the Election, polls, and US politics in general, I can't recommend enough this website:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Regular poll tracking and commentary from all sides.
Currently the poll of polls has Harris at +1.1 % |
That looks handy, ta. | |
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 15:40 - Sep 11 with 1356 views | Ryorry |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 13:29 - Sep 11 by bsw72 |
It is easy to work a room when you are the cult leader and the room is full of your followers. I am genuinely scared by what Trump represents, and to an extent how his methods to achieve "success" is being used by others such as Farage etc.
It was a bit of a joke when he first proposed to run in 2016, and watching him was funny, but the fact that he cannot accept any truth that does not align to what he wants and subsequently creates fantasy scenarios whenever he needs to and that tens of millions of people will still vote Republican in spite of this is now terrifying.
The last time he lost, it lead to an armed insurrection in Washington - the fervour and hatred demonstrated bby his MAGA Cult followers has only increased in the last 4 years - I dread to think what the USA will be like in 2025 . . . . |
I watched this
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/trump-should-we-be-scared
and like the Guardian reviewer, I wasn't scared, I was terrified. If he gets in, we're fooked, end of democracy in the USA; if he doesn't get in we're fooked because he won't accept it & there could be civil war there.
One of the things which made my mouth drop wide open - assertion by one contributor that if elected, DT could openly order the assassination of any individual & not be prosecuted for it - it would not in USA law be deemed a crime ...
**Edit - to elaborate on this - it was pointed out by his former national security adviser John Bolton, that DT "would go into a second term protected by the ruling his conservative-stuffed supreme court handed down during the first, that the president of the United States has immunity from criminal prosecution."
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/article/2024/sep/09/trump-should-we-be- [Post edited 11 Sep 2024 16:06]
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| Trump is a real nutcase. on 17:22 - Sep 11 with 1236 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 15:40 - Sep 11 by Ryorry |
I watched this
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/trump-should-we-be-scared
and like the Guardian reviewer, I wasn't scared, I was terrified. If he gets in, we're fooked, end of democracy in the USA; if he doesn't get in we're fooked because he won't accept it & there could be civil war there.
One of the things which made my mouth drop wide open - assertion by one contributor that if elected, DT could openly order the assassination of any individual & not be prosecuted for it - it would not in USA law be deemed a crime ...
**Edit - to elaborate on this - it was pointed out by his former national security adviser John Bolton, that DT "would go into a second term protected by the ruling his conservative-stuffed supreme court handed down during the first, that the president of the United States has immunity from criminal prosecution."
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/article/2024/sep/09/trump-should-we-be- [Post edited 11 Sep 2024 16:06]
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Are these two really the best America has ?
That really is frightening. |  | | |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 17:48 - Sep 11 with 1171 views | lowhouseblue |
| Trump is a real nutcase. on 15:40 - Sep 11 by Ryorry |
I watched this
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/trump-should-we-be-scared
and like the Guardian reviewer, I wasn't scared, I was terrified. If he gets in, we're fooked, end of democracy in the USA; if he doesn't get in we're fooked because he won't accept it & there could be civil war there.
One of the things which made my mouth drop wide open - assertion by one contributor that if elected, DT could openly order the assassination of any individual & not be prosecuted for it - it would not in USA law be deemed a crime ...
**Edit - to elaborate on this - it was pointed out by his former national security adviser John Bolton, that DT "would go into a second term protected by the ruling his conservative-stuffed supreme court handed down during the first, that the president of the United States has immunity from criminal prosecution."
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/article/2024/sep/09/trump-should-we-be- [Post edited 11 Sep 2024 16:06]
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i think it was george w bush's first election when the guardian had a campaign to encourage it's readers to write to individual us voters pleading with them to not to vote for bush because it would bring about the end of civilisation as we knew it. just saying. |  |
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