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Even if Pullen did tell you this, it could easily have been bravado/ego/alcohol talking. I very much doubt he would actually talk to McKenna like that.
He was right though.
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Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 16:51 - Oct 7 with 2321 views
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 22:10 - Oct 6 by FrimleyBlue
It wouldn't be surprising tbh. They'll be signings KM wouldn't have directly been involved in. And with johnsons lack of game time it's safe to assume he's been one of them tbh. As much as axel has been solid if KM brought in johnson to be the new rb he would have been in.
So I can imagine that chat happening. Something like we've signed johnson what are your thoughts. I don't think it would have been we are thinking of signing johnson what do you think before we do
Fecking hell.
This thread is a car crash and this post is the worst of the lot.
Even if Mckenna didn't have a say in Johnson (which is clearly boollox) his next thought is, i've got this player i didn't sign but i need to find out about and him and know what to do, yeah i know a West Ham fan, that ex Kitman chap. Lets ask him and i'll be sorted.
You think Mckenna agreed to stay at Town after all the speculation to then be told he has to sign this player and that player or not have a say on players brought it. Absolute guff Frimmers.
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 17:02 - Oct 7 by N2_Blue
Fecking hell.
This thread is a car crash and this post is the worst of the lot.
Even if Mckenna didn't have a say in Johnson (which is clearly boollox) his next thought is, i've got this player i didn't sign but i need to find out about and him and know what to do, yeah i know a West Ham fan, that ex Kitman chap. Lets ask him and i'll be sorted.
You think Mckenna agreed to stay at Town after all the speculation to then be told he has to sign this player and that player or not have a say on players brought it. Absolute guff Frimmers.
N2 think I've mislead people with My thoughts on this so apologies for not making it clear. It wasn't that i felt KM asked for advice or anything like that or set his sights in pulled specifically either. Was just saying as an ex colleague it could have been a conversation between two friends.
On the signing of players without say so. I don't disagree that he wouldn't be involved, I just know from discussions with other club staff that there are examples of players being signed on the profile requested rather than a direct instruction to sign a specific player. There are a few other posters who feel similar so it's not just me on this one.
But yes. Apologies for not being clear with my first point. It was simply just showing an understand of why a chat may have happend but clearly I've not explained that properly.
This isn't meant as a criticism of Leif, but interesting to note the comment from a West Ham fan on the latest Blue Monday podcast which offers some balance to the criticism that Johnson has received on here.
The Ipswich LB needs to learn how to defend, not playing against dummies. Got exposed too often.
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Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 09:15 - Oct 8 with 2039 views
This isn't meant as a criticism of Leif, but interesting to note the comment from a West Ham fan on the latest Blue Monday podcast which offers some balance to the criticism that Johnson has received on here.
The Ipswich LB needs to learn how to defend, not playing against dummies. Got exposed too often.
I'm probably in a VERY small minority here but defensively I think Leif has struggled a touch this season and its an area of his game he needs to continue to work at. A lot of goals have come down his side of where he has been beaten, not stopped the cross etc.
Now I'm one of Leif's biggest fans and think he is brilliant. Him getting forward is so much of our game and defensivley sometimes he is ultra solid and has the winger in his pocket. But he has a lot to improve on, and i'm sure he will. However not at all surprised he hasn't been called up for England and actually don't think he is even that close currently. Lot of Town bias thinking he should be in the squad.
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 09:15 - Oct 8 by N2_Blue
I'm probably in a VERY small minority here but defensively I think Leif has struggled a touch this season and its an area of his game he needs to continue to work at. A lot of goals have come down his side of where he has been beaten, not stopped the cross etc.
Now I'm one of Leif's biggest fans and think he is brilliant. Him getting forward is so much of our game and defensivley sometimes he is ultra solid and has the winger in his pocket. But he has a lot to improve on, and i'm sure he will. However not at all surprised he hasn't been called up for England and actually don't think he is even that close currently. Lot of Town bias thinking he should be in the squad.
Yep, agreed.
Think the problem has been that he's essentially had 2 seasons of not having to worry unduly about defending and can bomb forward with Burgess covering him and the opposition wingers not being as good.
Suddenly he's up against serious players and it will take time to get used to the defensive side. He's such a quality player and intelligent that he will get there.
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 17:16 - Oct 7 by FrimleyBlue
N2 think I've mislead people with My thoughts on this so apologies for not making it clear. It wasn't that i felt KM asked for advice or anything like that or set his sights in pulled specifically either. Was just saying as an ex colleague it could have been a conversation between two friends.
On the signing of players without say so. I don't disagree that he wouldn't be involved, I just know from discussions with other club staff that there are examples of players being signed on the profile requested rather than a direct instruction to sign a specific player. There are a few other posters who feel similar so it's not just me on this one.
But yes. Apologies for not being clear with my first point. It was simply just showing an understand of why a chat may have happend but clearly I've not explained that properly.
No one gets signed without McKenna's ok, and no one gets signed that McKenna hasn't spoken to at length before we do so
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 10:01 - Oct 8 by FrimleyBlue
Sorry Joe but I know that's rubbish.
Not many granted. But as said earlier, profiles have been met, the oks been given but KM hasn't met with everyone prior to signing.
How do you know this? You live nowhere near Ipswich and don't even go to games. Joe lives in Ipswich, does arguably the best/most informed ITFC podcast and is very close to people at the club.
Trust the process. Trust Phil.
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Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 10:16 - Oct 8 with 1881 views
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 10:08 - Oct 8 by TRUE_BLUE123
Met or spoken to. Joe said spoken to.
No player is signing for the club without speaking to Mckenna and I know that for certain. Not sure where you got that info from.
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On this West Ham YT show that was done with Ben from Blue Monday he speaks about Johnson meeting McKenna
Don't know how well informed the guy is, but ben says he's really good and is doing good numbers on YouTube and doesn't sound in any way sensationalist so his background talk is interestign.
i.e Johnson as an academy player had been exceptionally poorly paid (relatively by PL standards) and not really given any opportunities, was offered a long term contract but still with money kept low (you'd presume somewhere like £20k a week which would sit a way below rest of squad)
Apparently when he met McKenna, KM told him all about where he can get to, and all the areas he needs to improve in and really impressed him - starts at about 14:00 in the video
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 10:16 - Oct 8 by itfcjoe
On this West Ham YT show that was done with Ben from Blue Monday he speaks about Johnson meeting McKenna
Don't know how well informed the guy is, but ben says he's really good and is doing good numbers on YouTube and doesn't sound in any way sensationalist so his background talk is interestign.
i.e Johnson as an academy player had been exceptionally poorly paid (relatively by PL standards) and not really given any opportunities, was offered a long term contract but still with money kept low (you'd presume somewhere like £20k a week which would sit a way below rest of squad)
Apparently when he met McKenna, KM told him all about where he can get to, and all the areas he needs to improve in and really impressed him - starts at about 14:00 in the video
Like I said above. Not many but we do In response to you saying All players are signed In that way. That's not true.
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 10:01 - Oct 8 by FrimleyBlue
Sorry Joe but I know that's rubbish.
Not many granted. But as said earlier, profiles have been met, the oks been given but KM hasn't met with everyone prior to signing.
You're literally talking out of your backside. You've created this scenario in your own echo chamber and now trying to insist it's reality. It's not. McKenna is a manager, not a head coach. He speaks with *every* new signing - at length, may I add - before they put pen to paper.
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Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 10:41 - Oct 8 with 1758 views
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 10:26 - Oct 8 by FrimleyBlue
Like I said above. Not many but we do In response to you saying All players are signed In that way. That's not true.
No. Mckenna is the guy at this football club. He makes the calls. The club do a huge amount of due diligence and the players speak to Mckenna and Ashton before signing.
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 10:29 - Oct 8 by portmanking
You're literally talking out of your backside. You've created this scenario in your own echo chamber and now trying to insist it's reality. It's not. McKenna is a manager, not a head coach. He speaks with *every* new signing - at length, may I add - before they put pen to paper.
The idea McKenna doesn't meet/talk at length with players is utterly laughable. As much from a player's perspective as ours. All of these players want to understand how the manager sees them fitting in and whether this is the best move for them. You don't just sign a 4/5 year contract somewhere.
Perhaps Frimmers could let us know which players didn't meet with (in person/virtually) with McKenna prior to signing this summer.
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Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 11:12 - Oct 8 with 1684 views
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 10:26 - Oct 8 by FrimleyBlue
Like I said above. Not many but we do In response to you saying All players are signed In that way. That's not true.
Can we clarify your point precisely Frimley - is it that some players are identified without McKenna's foreknowledge, based on the criteria / player attributes he's set out, and McKenna has afterwards run the rule over these players and ok'd them? Because that's believable and normal practice, especially if you have an extensive scouting network.
Or is it that some players have been signed without McKenna doing his own due diligence, and that he's either a) given his approval for management to sign players without checking every player personally, or b) management have pulled rank and signed some players without receiving his approval, or maybe even without asking him at all? Because that doesn't sound believable, even if McKenna's a busy man and even if he has great trust in his recruitment team.
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Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 11:59 - Oct 8 with 1532 views
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 09:15 - Oct 8 by N2_Blue
I'm probably in a VERY small minority here but defensively I think Leif has struggled a touch this season and its an area of his game he needs to continue to work at. A lot of goals have come down his side of where he has been beaten, not stopped the cross etc.
Now I'm one of Leif's biggest fans and think he is brilliant. Him getting forward is so much of our game and defensivley sometimes he is ultra solid and has the winger in his pocket. But he has a lot to improve on, and i'm sure he will. However not at all surprised he hasn't been called up for England and actually don't think he is even that close currently. Lot of Town bias thinking he should be in the squad.
I agree.
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Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 11:59 - Oct 8 with 1530 views
Ben Johnson is sht (n/t) on 11:39 - Oct 8 by Vegtablue
Can we clarify your point precisely Frimley - is it that some players are identified without McKenna's foreknowledge, based on the criteria / player attributes he's set out, and McKenna has afterwards run the rule over these players and ok'd them? Because that's believable and normal practice, especially if you have an extensive scouting network.
Or is it that some players have been signed without McKenna doing his own due diligence, and that he's either a) given his approval for management to sign players without checking every player personally, or b) management have pulled rank and signed some players without receiving his approval, or maybe even without asking him at all? Because that doesn't sound believable, even if McKenna's a busy man and even if he has great trust in his recruitment team.
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This post is far too sensible for this thread.
Give me more of how McKenna signs players by using a modified game of Guess Who and asking his scouts if his new signing has red hair.
Disgraceful post from a keyboard warrior in a darkened room I suspect. I do hope Ben Johnson doesn't read these forums, because that is not going to help him one little bit. He had a poor game, as all players do. 69 appearances for West Ham in the Premier League, and apparently well liked by their fans during his time there, does tell a different story. Real fans would back him, and not post such disrespectful stuff about one of their own players.
Edit...and now just seen the title has been changed :)
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