| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? 15:28 - Jan 1 with 6680 views | ringwoodblue |
Just hate all the hype surrounding them because of their Hollywood owners. Really hope they don’t get promotion again this year. Losing to Barnsley today - cmon Barnsley! |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 19:27 - Jan 1 with 2040 views | Nutkins_Return |
Pretty similar to our rise and with American owners. Not much to dislike let alone hate. Also very similar in that the players have come up the levels with them and people like Mullen seem very genuine human beings.
Good luck to them. This was the level it was supposed to get very tricky for them but hasn't. Champ is another beast but wouldn't rule them out doing a Luton. |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 19:31 - Jan 1 with 2023 views | Crawfordsboot |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 19:24 - Jan 1 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
No one’s accounts for last season have been released so no idea how you’ve established that
It isn’t really relevant anyway, the poster I was responding to was referring to the way Wrexham spent their way out of the conference, seemingly oblivious that we did the same thing in League One |
They are estimated admittedly but likely to be of the right order of magnitude.
https://onefootball.com/en/news/ranking-every-championship-club-by-their-wagebil |  | | |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 19:34 - Jan 1 with 2019 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 18:22 - Jan 1 by algy |
But I've heard that our L1 success was due to the brilliant Kieran McKenna. Money had nothing to do with it. |
Pretty obviously a combination of all of these things isn’t it?
The money would have been meaningless if it wasn’t spent well, which it undoubtedly has been. The investment behind the scenes has paid dividends and McKenna has turned out to be an inspired appointment - take any of those things away and it’s highly unlikely we’d be where we are
However equally it wouldn’t have been possible without the money invested, we wouldn’t have been able to assemble the squad we did in League One and McKenna almost certainly wouldn’t have been here in the first place
Not sure why anyone thinks we’re somehow more noble than Wrexham tbh, strip away the TV series and it’s really not any different [Post edited 1 Jan 19:34]
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 19:38 - Jan 1 with 2002 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
That ‘estimates’ (makes up) our wage bill as £11.4m, whereas our last published accounts for 2022/23 had a wage bill of £19.8m…in League One
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 19:44 - Jan 1 with 1987 views | bournemouthblue |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 15:30 - Jan 1 by SitfcB |
Don’t get the hate towards them tbh.
Quite like the story, yeah they’ve pumped a load of money in but how else do clubs get success these days?
Been very good for the local community in a lot of way as well by all accounts. |
They are doing what we did a little bit, albeit with more media profile
They were running on a League One budget in the Conference with a League One manager and League some players, it's not really a surprise is it
It would be amusing to see them bottle it this season though |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 19:58 - Jan 1 with 1964 views | WeirdFishes |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 19:24 - Jan 1 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
No one’s accounts for last season have been released so no idea how you’ve established that
It isn’t really relevant anyway, the poster I was responding to was referring to the way Wrexham spent their way out of the conference, seemingly oblivious that we did the same thing in League One |
I’m not oblivious to anything of that thanks.
My personal opinion is that there is a difference between our levels of spending, which was high in League One, compared to the way they attracted players they should never have been able to get; Mullin and Tozer who both joined them from League One clubs for example. |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 21:21 - Jan 1 with 1908 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 19:58 - Jan 1 by WeirdFishes |
I’m not oblivious to anything of that thanks.
My personal opinion is that there is a difference between our levels of spending, which was high in League One, compared to the way they attracted players they should never have been able to get; Mullin and Tozer who both joined them from League One clubs for example. |
You’re right, the likes of Walton, Morsy, Celina, Chaplin (34 apps for a team that finished 5th in the division above), Hirst, Davis, Broadhead etc were all typical League One signings, weren’t they?  | |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 21:24 - Jan 1 with 1894 views | Mullet |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 21:21 - Jan 1 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
You’re right, the likes of Walton, Morsy, Celina, Chaplin (34 apps for a team that finished 5th in the division above), Hirst, Davis, Broadhead etc were all typical League One signings, weren’t they? |
There are people that believe they only came here cos of Paul cook! |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 21:26 - Jan 1 with 1891 views | braveblue |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 15:48 - Jan 1 by WestStanderLaLaLa |
Watched Welcome to Wrexham expecting to dislike them but quite the opposite. |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 00:26 - Jan 2 with 1797 views | JimmyJazz |
Most news sites league one round up starts with an update on how Wrexham got on. Although a similar path to us, we were never in that position
I hope they fail to get promoted and then relegated next season. |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 01:36 - Jan 2 with 1762 views | IPS_wich |
I can't understand any Ipswich fan disliking Wrexham for what they have achieved given their last three years are an almost carbon copy of ours - just two divisions lower.
Even down to the big celebrity association. You only have to look at any comments section about Ipswich or an Ipswich game and you will see dozens of comments along the lines 'f***ing hate Ed Sheeran'. It's just petty jealousy.
More than anything, we should have complete empathy with their fans (despite them being Welsh). The joy they are experiencing is the same as ours - of seeing their beloved club rise from the doldrums. When I watch Welcome to Wrexham and see the fans celebrate promotion I've found it vicariously amplifies my joy about what Town have achieved. I'm genuinely happy for them.
What I most respect - and it's the same with our owners - is the community first focus. What's not appreciated around the world is that whilst pro sports in America is a TV product, the biggest crowds in the US are for college sports. That sense of community connection is something that both sets of owners have understood and used as a real strength to underpin the rapid rise of both teams.
I actually wish them well - their journey is much more interesting to watch and comment on than that of Man City, Chelsea and Newcastle with all of their faceless oil money. | | | |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 09:12 - Jan 2 with 1627 views | glasso |
I remember talking to my Charlton supporting mate towards the end of our League One campaign and the way he talked about us was pretty much the same. Not *quite* as Hollywood, of course, but we had a global superstar as our sponsor/figurehead (in a publicity sense), millions pumped into us from American owners and the feeling was that we'd basically bought the league. I hadn't really thought of it like that until he said it. I felt it was a more romantic story of a sleeping club finding its feet after years of bad ownership.
The hype around other teams is always a bit grating until it's your club getting it. I've always hated Leeds for much the same reason - the guff around them every time they get promoted is absolutely nauseating. | | | |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 09:16 - Jan 2 with 1619 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
We literally outspent the rest of League One combined. Whilst we brought in players like Broadhead and Morsy that had no right being in the third tier, they’ve brought in geriatric Stephen Fletcher. So would be somewhat hypocritical of me to judge them. The net worth of their owners is a mere fraction of ours, and I suspect they’ve reached their ceiling. If they do get to the Championship, the owners might find losing an average £13m a season a little rich.
My only gripe is the BBC’s sycophantic picking of everyone one of their FA Cup games - pathetic. | | | |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 09:40 - Jan 2 with 1595 views | Vaughan8 |
I dislike them. The Media make them out to be the darlings of football and its an amazing story. Getting League 1 players into a confernce team is not "amazing" when they go up.
Of course watching their programme you're going to "like" them. Its called editing.
Comparing their american owners (well known film stars) to our american owners is a bit different. Our american owners don't get David Beckham etc to our games do they?
We weren't (intentionally) buying Premier League players in League one (I know now in hindsight some are) | | | |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 09:50 - Jan 2 with 1568 views | itfcjoe |
No, I think they've been a breath of fresh air in how to run a club at that levbel - behind all the glamour it's just been the real muck and bullets of good management, good recruitment, good fan engagement and have dragged a club back up from where it shouldn't be and made the whole town proud of it again and the centre piece of the town. A bit like here really.
They've done it by needing to provide content, but have massively increased the value of the club, the prestige and the revenues with great sponsorships along the way.
It's fantastically smart by the owners, who probably haven't even needed to invest much because Disney and the likes will be covering the spend and they will sell at some point and everyone is a winner. |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 21:45 - Jan 2 with 1373 views | textbackup |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 15:30 - Jan 1 by SitfcB |
Don’t get the hate towards them tbh.
Quite like the story, yeah they’ve pumped a load of money in but how else do clubs get success these days?
Been very good for the local community in a lot of way as well by all accounts. |
Sounds very VERY similar to another team I know… |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 22:01 - Jan 2 with 1353 views | Swansea_Blue |
Nope. They’re having a ball and the owners are in synch with the area. There’s not much difference to us, except their owners have their profiles to promote them (while we use Ed and that strange boxing bloke). Both of us have American ownership that cares, both sets of owners stepped back and put a proper footballing CEO in charge, both trust their manager and local leadership to get things right on the pitch, both back the CEO and manager with signings and are successful in helping them get deals done, both of us are looking to improve the grounds and facilities after years of neglect, both of us are looking to engage with the community after years of indifference, both of us have brought joy back to the fans and both of us go about playing adventurous attacking football that entertains. Oh, and both of us are successful as a result of getting all that right. |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 22:31 - Jan 2 with 1312 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 09:40 - Jan 2 by Vaughan8 |
I dislike them. The Media make them out to be the darlings of football and its an amazing story. Getting League 1 players into a confernce team is not "amazing" when they go up.
Of course watching their programme you're going to "like" them. Its called editing.
Comparing their american owners (well known film stars) to our american owners is a bit different. Our american owners don't get David Beckham etc to our games do they?
We weren't (intentionally) buying Premier League players in League one (I know now in hindsight some are) |
Amazing lack of self awareness there.
Walton, Clarke, Edmundson, Keogh, Leif, Morsy, Mass, Ball, Edwards, Chappers, Broady, Aluko and Hirst all dropped down at least one division, and some from the PL, to play for us in L1. | |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 23:12 - Jan 2 with 1281 views | vinceg |
I think the 2 Hollywood boys definitely love the attention, but I think they now also love the project and they totally get how good it's been for the town.
I remember Wrexham being in the old second division for a few seasons early 80s and in the third division for a long while up until about 2005ish maybe. So they've just about got back to their level now after a long while in the doldrums. They might get another spell in the second tier, but they won't be buying the Prem from nowhere like City or Blackburn |  | | |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 23:27 - Jan 2 with 1260 views | Sharkey |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 22:01 - Jan 2 by Swansea_Blue |
Nope. They’re having a ball and the owners are in synch with the area. There’s not much difference to us, except their owners have their profiles to promote them (while we use Ed and that strange boxing bloke). Both of us have American ownership that cares, both sets of owners stepped back and put a proper footballing CEO in charge, both trust their manager and local leadership to get things right on the pitch, both back the CEO and manager with signings and are successful in helping them get deals done, both of us are looking to improve the grounds and facilities after years of neglect, both of us are looking to engage with the community after years of indifference, both of us have brought joy back to the fans and both of us go about playing adventurous attacking football that entertains. Oh, and both of us are successful as a result of getting all that right. |
I think that's a bit unfair to all those players and others who did good work engaging with the community at a time when the actual football was uninspiring or worse. Some went 'above and beyond', most notably during Covid. They did not show 'indifference'. |  | | |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 23:52 - Jan 2 with 1210 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 15:30 - Jan 1 by SitfcB |
Don’t get the hate towards them tbh.
Quite like the story, yeah they’ve pumped a load of money in but how else do clubs get success these days?
Been very good for the local community in a lot of way as well by all accounts. |
Knocked us out of F A Cup 30 years ago. |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 08:23 - Jan 3 with 1012 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 23:27 - Jan 2 by Sharkey |
I think that's a bit unfair to all those players and others who did good work engaging with the community at a time when the actual football was uninspiring or worse. Some went 'above and beyond', most notably during Covid. They did not show 'indifference'. |
I meant indifference from the owner, with that business of splitting away from the Charitable Trust. That area has been rejuvenated and expanded under Gamechange. | |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 09:03 - Jan 3 with 982 views | Edmundo |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 17:42 - Jan 1 by Clapham_Junction |
While they might have spent money, at least they have a large fanbase that has responded by filling the Racecourse for the last few seasons. Far better than wealthy owners funding (now former) non-league clubs like Fleetwood or Salford and getting tiny crowds. |
See also Bournemouth: tiny club pumped with the steroid-like wealth of the Prem |  |
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| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 11:41 - Jan 3 with 928 views | Vaughan8 |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 22:31 - Jan 2 by Swansea_Blue |
Amazing lack of self awareness there.
Walton, Clarke, Edmundson, Keogh, Leif, Morsy, Mass, Ball, Edwards, Chappers, Broady, Aluko and Hirst all dropped down at least one division, and some from the PL, to play for us in L1. |
Sorry, which ones of those were regulars in teams two leagues higher than us, or even 3 (I know impossible).
Wrexham bought players who were a really playing in league one (and even the championship) so it's not a massive lack of self awareness.
None of those players mentioned were regulars in the Premier league, or even top championship teams. | | | |
| Does anyone else really dislike Wrexham? on 11:48 - Jan 3 with 900 views | brazil1982 |
Not the club so much (despite the anti English fans among them), the media hype is extraordinary including the BBC broadcasting their bus parade!
Like most other clubs, I wish them no success. |  | | |
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