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HERE WE GO 22:02 - Jan 8 with 8423 viewsFrimleyBlue


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HERE WE GO on 22:30 - Jan 8 with 2676 viewsSitfcB

HERE WE GO on 22:08 - Jan 8 by bazza

Sitters won’t like this..


Meh.

Didn’t bother because it was already in the other thread

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HERE WE GO on 22:37 - Jan 8 with 2596 viewsNeverSayDie

HERE WE GO on 22:05 - Jan 8 by pointofblue

£21m plus adds on?!

Villa have screwed us over with this one.


Cracking bit of business by Villa, shows the value of these new “matching” and “buy back” contracts
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HERE WE GO on 22:38 - Jan 8 with 2575 viewsbazza

HERE WE GO on 22:30 - Jan 8 by SitfcB

Meh.

Didn’t bother because it was already in the other thread


That explains it, was about to report a missing person.
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He can play both left and right AM, mainly left, he will give flexibility on 22:38 - Jan 8 with 2574 viewsunstableblue

HERE WE GO on 22:07 - Jan 8 by textbackup

Is he a right sided attacker?


I think Philogene will start ahead of Broadhead if he does join. With Broadie and Jack Clarke behind him on the bench

In the two or three behind Delap, McKenna seems to like at least one ‘tracker back/tackler’ a Burns or Szmodics. So can’t see Hutchinson, Philogene and Broadie ever being on the pitch together.

As exciting as that is.

With our new deep block 5 using Johnson or Burns, maybe Godfrey. Maybe McKenna feels he can play two behind Delap with more attacking freedom, so Hutchinson and Philogene?!

Basically I haven’t got a clue

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HERE WE GO on 22:41 - Jan 8 with 2529 viewsTractorCam

HERE WE GO on 22:05 - Jan 8 by WickhamsLeftBoot

Believe we had the ‘here we go’ in August, will believe it once he’s holding up a Town shirt.


Because we agreed personal terms with him, he was all set to sign but Villa activated their clause. No such clause this time!

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HERE WE GO on 22:43 - Jan 8 with 2482 viewsElderGrizzly

Some of our fans don’t deserve this club

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HERE WE GO on 22:54 - Jan 8 with 2343 viewspointofblue

HERE WE GO on 22:43 - Jan 8 by ElderGrizzly

Some of our fans don’t deserve this club



Someone had taken the p until he got to 'help'.

Poll: Who would you play at right centre back on Saturday?

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HERE WE GO on 23:00 - Jan 8 with 2278 viewsIpswichTownBlue

When signing a player, my first thought is "does this player have potential?" because if they do, which Philogene clearly does, then McKenna is usually the perfect person to unlock it.
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HERE WE GO on 23:52 - Jan 8 with 2136 viewsberkstractorboy

HERE WE GO on 22:43 - Jan 8 by ElderGrizzly

Some of our fans don’t deserve this club



I don't think this guy is a fan posts absolute negative sh1t all the time on X. Must be an alias for Chris Sutton.

I mean what use is a forward if they aren't getting good service.
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HERE WE GO on 02:15 - Jan 9 with 2017 viewsmelbs_itfc

HERE WE GO on 22:07 - Jan 8 by ElderGrizzly

Villa only paid £13m


Yeah it was a strange one because unless I’m mistaken they sold him to Hull for 5M in summer of 2023 then brought him back for 13M (inc.30% discount) a year later. Now six months later they are selling him to us for approx 20M plus add ons. Not a bad bit of business!
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HERE WE GO on 09:33 - Jan 9 with 1711 viewspointofblue

HERE WE GO on 02:15 - Jan 9 by melbs_itfc

Yeah it was a strange one because unless I’m mistaken they sold him to Hull for 5M in summer of 2023 then brought him back for 13M (inc.30% discount) a year later. Now six months later they are selling him to us for approx 20M plus add ons. Not a bad bit of business!


Actually, is it good business? If they sold for £5m but bought him back for £13m, that's a £8m loss. If they're now selling him again for £20m, that's a £7m gain, so they've actually lost a million.

They'll be hoping the add ons make up for it.

Edit: Being thick - ignore the above!
[Post edited 9 Jan 10:14]

Poll: Who would you play at right centre back on Saturday?

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HERE WE GO on 09:44 - Jan 9 with 1629 viewsCrawfordsboot

HERE WE GO on 09:33 - Jan 9 by pointofblue

Actually, is it good business? If they sold for £5m but bought him back for £13m, that's a £8m loss. If they're now selling him again for £20m, that's a £7m gain, so they've actually lost a million.

They'll be hoping the add ons make up for it.

Edit: Being thick - ignore the above!
[Post edited 9 Jan 10:14]


????

Sold twice once for £5m and once for £20m ish total sale £25m ish
Bought once for £13m

Profit £12m ish

How do you get a million loss?
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lol. (n/t) on 09:50 - Jan 9 with 1582 viewsBloots

HERE WE GO on 09:33 - Jan 9 by pointofblue

Actually, is it good business? If they sold for £5m but bought him back for £13m, that's a £8m loss. If they're now selling him again for £20m, that's a £7m gain, so they've actually lost a million.

They'll be hoping the add ons make up for it.

Edit: Being thick - ignore the above!
[Post edited 9 Jan 10:14]



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HERE WE GO on 09:51 - Jan 9 with 1571 viewsCheltenham_Blue

HERE WE GO on 23:52 - Jan 8 by berkstractorboy

I don't think this guy is a fan posts absolute negative sh1t all the time on X. Must be an alias for Chris Sutton.

I mean what use is a forward if they aren't getting good service.


Is that Fishers?

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HERE WE GO on 09:52 - Jan 9 with 1571 viewsTrequartista

Not counting my chickens on this one. Do Villa have a matching clause to buy their own player?

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HERE WE GO on 09:54 - Jan 9 with 1538 viewsEuropablue

HERE WE GO on 23:00 - Jan 8 by IpswichTownBlue

When signing a player, my first thought is "does this player have potential?" because if they do, which Philogene clearly does, then McKenna is usually the perfect person to unlock it.
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My first thought is, does McKenna want him? The second is does KM have a more informed opinion than me?
I was always much more excited about the Greaves part of the double deal, and not that bothered when Philogene chose Villa. It wouldn't have been a surprise if he chose us over Villa, but it also was a reasonable choice, it's not like he missed his chance with us.
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HERE WE GO on 09:57 - Jan 9 with 1501 viewsNthQldITFC

HERE WE GO on 09:33 - Jan 9 by pointofblue

Actually, is it good business? If they sold for £5m but bought him back for £13m, that's a £8m loss. If they're now selling him again for £20m, that's a £7m gain, so they've actually lost a million.

They'll be hoping the add ons make up for it.

Edit: Being thick - ignore the above!
[Post edited 9 Jan 10:14]


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HERE WE GO on 10:04 - Jan 9 with 1429 viewssmithy69

HERE WE GO on 09:33 - Jan 9 by pointofblue

Actually, is it good business? If they sold for £5m but bought him back for £13m, that's a £8m loss. If they're now selling him again for £20m, that's a £7m gain, so they've actually lost a million.

They'll be hoping the add ons make up for it.

Edit: Being thick - ignore the above!
[Post edited 9 Jan 10:14]


Guessing you weren’t in top set maths lol
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HERE WE GO on 10:07 - Jan 9 with 1406 viewspointofblue

HERE WE GO on 10:04 - Jan 9 by smithy69

Guessing you weren’t in top set maths lol


Nope. Still can't get my head round it now.

Edit: Now got it - just ignore me.
[Post edited 9 Jan 10:38]

Poll: Who would you play at right centre back on Saturday?

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HERE WE GO on 10:09 - Jan 9 with 1386 viewsEuropablue

HERE WE GO on 09:33 - Jan 9 by pointofblue

Actually, is it good business? If they sold for £5m but bought him back for £13m, that's a £8m loss. If they're now selling him again for £20m, that's a £7m gain, so they've actually lost a million.

They'll be hoping the add ons make up for it.

Edit: Being thick - ignore the above!
[Post edited 9 Jan 10:14]


They sold him for 5 million, so that is a 5 million profit. Then they bought him again for 13 m (5 million would have been coming back to them if they let him go to Ipswich the first time). They didn't lose 8 million, it was more like they mined raw materials, sold them off to be processed in a factory and bought the finished product to sell for a profit. It's a basic concept of investing that you only make a profit or loss when you are holding the asset.
The final result is that just on transfer fees they made 12 million compared to 10 million if they had just let Hull sell him to Ipswich in the summer. That is a difference of 2 million, but it could be almost nothing when wages are factored in.
In essence it was a very safe bet. If he kicked on and proved to be Champions League standard, they would win big, as it happened he is allowed to leave 6 months later and has retained his value, even increased his value due to the long contract he signed.
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HERE WE GO on 10:12 - Jan 9 with 1330 viewsitfckenty

HERE WE GO on 09:33 - Jan 9 by pointofblue

Actually, is it good business? If they sold for £5m but bought him back for £13m, that's a £8m loss. If they're now selling him again for £20m, that's a £7m gain, so they've actually lost a million.

They'll be hoping the add ons make up for it.

Edit: Being thick - ignore the above!
[Post edited 9 Jan 10:14]


It doesnt actually get counted as one long transaction. They will be 3 completely separate sales on the books.

5m Profit
13m Expense
20m profit.

25 - 13 = 12m profit. (Plus any addons)
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HERE WE GO on 10:13 - Jan 9 with 1318 viewspointofblue

HERE WE GO on 10:12 - Jan 9 by itfckenty

It doesnt actually get counted as one long transaction. They will be 3 completely separate sales on the books.

5m Profit
13m Expense
20m profit.

25 - 13 = 12m profit. (Plus any addons)


And now I feel really thick!

Thanks for that.

(And to Europa Blue)
[Post edited 9 Jan 10:13]

Poll: Who would you play at right centre back on Saturday?

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HERE WE GO on 10:13 - Jan 9 with 1313 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

HERE WE GO on 22:43 - Jan 8 by ElderGrizzly

Some of our fans don’t deserve this club



Some of our fans are thick as pigsh!t. As if signing Philogene means the end of our interest in a striker.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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HERE WE GO on 10:31 - Jan 9 with 1208 viewsmelbs_itfc

HERE WE GO on 10:07 - Jan 9 by pointofblue

Nope. Still can't get my head round it now.

Edit: Now got it - just ignore me.
[Post edited 9 Jan 10:38]


Hope this helps…

MONEY IN MONEY OUT
+ 5 ( from Hull) - 13 (to Hull)
+20 (from Ipswich)
——— ———
+25 Total (millions) -13

+25
-13
-——
= £12 million profit to Aston Villa (not inc. add-ons).
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