| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. 04:58 - Jan 20 with 23014 views | MK1 |
Clicked on his profile and it said "Error" Think that's a bit harsh if it was for his comment after yesterday's game, but overall not to surprised. He was ok pre season and a few games in, but his comments got worse as this season has gone on. If it's another little break for him, then I hope he has finally learnt from it, if it's a ban, then I will be slightly, ever so slightly sorry to see him go. [Post edited 20 Jan 5:00]
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:10 - Jan 20 with 2762 views | Sarge |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 08:19 - Jan 20 by Zapers |
Why not ignore him? Plenty of people on here would wind me, if i let them. Yes he might have been controversial, but i rarely noticed him abusing anyone.
Seems to me that if someone has a different opinion to the mob, they are the ones that receive the abuse, and get away with it time after time. |
I had him on ignore but his machine gun wally approach to posting made the forum look like Swiss cheese with about 25% of the posts missing. |  | | |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:13 - Jan 20 with 2745 views | Kieran_Knows |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:04 - Jan 20 by USA |
No no. Don’t deflect.
I think you’re an excellent poster and I enjoy your comments on here. BUT, if it made your TWTD experience a poor one, why keep reading the posts?? Genuine question. |
I tended to stay away from the threads he started, but when he started about 48 a day, it's difficult to not come across them .... and that's before they were posting on pretty much every thread started by anyone else also. |  |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:19 - Jan 20 with 2679 views | NeedhamChris |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:13 - Jan 20 by Kieran_Knows |
I tended to stay away from the threads he started, but when he started about 48 a day, it's difficult to not come across them .... and that's before they were posting on pretty much every thread started by anyone else also. |
I don't disagree, personally there should be some type of fair usage policy implemented when people go overboard on posts - but that's not the fault of Frimley or any other poster.
We were all emotional yesterday, and Frimley (stupidly) put out a deliberately controversial post and people couldn't ignore it.
Put differently, if noone reacts to Frimleys post do you think he still gets banned? I don't - and most of the people who abused him in that thread knew exactly what they were doing. | |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:25 - Jan 20 with 2633 views | gsoly |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:19 - Jan 20 by NeedhamChris |
I don't disagree, personally there should be some type of fair usage policy implemented when people go overboard on posts - but that's not the fault of Frimley or any other poster.
We were all emotional yesterday, and Frimley (stupidly) put out a deliberately controversial post and people couldn't ignore it.
Put differently, if noone reacts to Frimleys post do you think he still gets banned? I don't - and most of the people who abused him in that thread knew exactly what they were doing. |
Why is it everyone else's job to control their emotions/posting, rather than his? And yes, his name became all but impossible to ignore across a raft of topics. |  | | |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:28 - Jan 20 with 2598 views | Kieran_Knows |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:19 - Jan 20 by NeedhamChris |
I don't disagree, personally there should be some type of fair usage policy implemented when people go overboard on posts - but that's not the fault of Frimley or any other poster.
We were all emotional yesterday, and Frimley (stupidly) put out a deliberately controversial post and people couldn't ignore it.
Put differently, if noone reacts to Frimleys post do you think he still gets banned? I don't - and most of the people who abused him in that thread knew exactly what they were doing. |
I have to say, I didn't actually see his thread or post last night, so can't comment on that. Just going on previous experiences.
What I will say is, after his reprieve from Phil I thought he had come back and toned it down. There was less threads, less posts from him ... but it's really ramped up again these 2-3 weeks. | |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:37 - Jan 20 with 2524 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 09:50 - Jan 20 by DJR |
When did opinions on a football forum, however much people disagree with them, become known as trolling?
As John Stuart Mill once said.
“If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.”
In a modern context, abuse aimed at someone for expressing a view is not dissimilar to silencing that view. [Post edited 20 Jan 9:54]
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You didn't think it was trolling ? Really ?
He literally said he didn't think Mckenna wasn't bothered about winning games and he checked out. If he genuinely believes that, it is probably worse. But it is a very obvious attempt at a troll. |  |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:38 - Jan 20 with 2511 views | Skip_Intro |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:19 - Jan 20 by NeedhamChris |
I don't disagree, personally there should be some type of fair usage policy implemented when people go overboard on posts - but that's not the fault of Frimley or any other poster.
We were all emotional yesterday, and Frimley (stupidly) put out a deliberately controversial post and people couldn't ignore it.
Put differently, if noone reacts to Frimleys post do you think he still gets banned? I don't - and most of the people who abused him in that thread knew exactly what they were doing. |
"I don't disagree, personally there should be some type of fair usage policy implemented when people go overboard on posts - but that's not the fault of Frimley"
it literally is his fault...he went 'overboard' time and time again... |  | | |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:38 - Jan 20 with 2498 views | Stadiumofdark |
Over 50 replies to Frimmers going.
Only just over 10 to a post relating to KMcK and Spurs
Same old Frimmers |  | | |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:43 - Jan 20 with 2423 views | itfcjoe |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:37 - Jan 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
You didn't think it was trolling ? Really ?
He literally said he didn't think Mckenna wasn't bothered about winning games and he checked out. If he genuinely believes that, it is probably worse. But it is a very obvious attempt at a troll. |
I don't think it's a troll, it's just he can hold every opinion it's possible to have on every game of football all concurrently and post them all incessantly.
But he absolutely revelled in anything negative, and just posts absolute rubbish whenever we lose a game - he was doubling and tripling down a few weeks ago that McKenna had checked out because he now earns more money and mistakes people having nuanced discussions about the games as 'refusing to criticise McKenna and the players' and talks about him and the players like they are just wasters who couldn't give a toss.
He was faux curious, pretended he was interested in things and points but if anyone ever bothered to try and explain something you may as well have spoke to a brick wall.
He shouldn't have been allowed back on here and I'm glad he's gone - he made it a worse place regularly. If that makes me a bully, or part of the hive mind then so be it - the board has never had, and doesn't need, a general groupthink but those with demonstrably rubbish opinions which can be ripped apart think it does because they can't engage in an argument properly |  |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:49 - Jan 20 with 2358 views | Whos_blue |
Just to add my two penneth.
I can't say I'm sad to see him go. He often made this place unbearable with his nonsense hot takes and inability to reflect on a contrary view. That said, I would never class him as a troll.
There are several unpleasant characters that lurk freely around this place. Frimmers wasn't one of those. [Post edited 20 Jan 11:01]
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:56 - Jan 20 with 2311 views | FoghornGleghorn |
Of more concern is that Swailesy has also gone. He came in for some massive overreaction on his thread having made an innocuous point and seemed hurt by it, but as always, FrimleyBlue and his hot takes are drawing all the focus.
If anyone's in off-forum contact with Swailesy, might be an idea to check in with him and make sure he's doing alright. | | | |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 11:00 - Jan 20 with 2249 views | NedPlimpton |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 09:43 - Jan 20 by Skip_Intro |
Oh well. F*** about find out. He finally found out. He is wiv da angles now. |
A cute post |  | | |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 11:00 - Jan 20 with 2256 views | Whos_blue |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:56 - Jan 20 by FoghornGleghorn |
Of more concern is that Swailesy has also gone. He came in for some massive overreaction on his thread having made an innocuous point and seemed hurt by it, but as always, FrimleyBlue and his hot takes are drawing all the focus.
If anyone's in off-forum contact with Swailesy, might be an idea to check in with him and make sure he's doing alright. |
Yes. This.
Hadn't realised he'd gone.
He's always posted freely about his demons and has sought support from us in the past.
It would be good to know he's doing ok. | |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 11:00 - Jan 20 with 2251 views | RonFearonsHair |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 09:09 - Jan 20 by Guthrum |
I thought that particular comment by Frimmers was unnecessarily snide in the circumstances. Especially given the context that we are still in an ongoing battle to survive in the divisopn, not reacting to relegation.
Plus, in any case, people carping at those who cheered the team after the last match in 2018/19 are missing the point. It was not celebrating the fact we had gone down, or the team and manager who got us there, but an expression of support for the club as an entity and of hope for a return to success in the future. Which, as it turned out, was not misplaced, even if it required a lot of changes and took longer than anyone wanted. |
In the grand scheme of things it didn’t even take that long really.
If you had said to me in summer 2019 that we would be promoted to the Premier League just five years later I would have been delighted to hear it. |  | | |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 11:08 - Jan 20 with 2136 views | Ryorry |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 08:58 - Jan 20 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Good.
He was a troll, quite clearly. Of course everyone has different opinions, but he said things purely to get a reaction and wind people up. I muted him a couple weeks back after he suggested Mckenna didn't want to win. Not sure what he posted last night but im sure again it was just to get people to bite. |
"I muted him a couple weeks back after he suggested Mckenna didn't want to win. Not sure what he posted last night but im sure again it was just to get people to bite."
Quite. It was the comment you cite that convinced me he was a troll - as he wrote it, it was borderline libellous/bringing the Club into disrepute imho.
I tried to support him when he was attacked for posting "ordinary" comments on the forum, & initially I admired him for keeping his cool in not giving tit for tat back with the abuse. However, his refusal to even consider the fair comments of others, & repeated doubling down on comments like the one above, meant that in the end his "calm" replies came across to me as passive aggressive - Pazelle, for those of you who remember him, used the same tactics, resulting in his disingenuous continual claim that he was never abusive himself.
It was a shame Frimley could only keep himself in check for so long before reverting to "old Frimmers". As others have said, it wasn't just the objectionable posts like the one above, it was his flooding of the forum which made it impossible to read if you put him on ignore. We don't put up with our email inboxes being flooded by a spammer, we divert them to a different space, which is what's now been done by Phil. Frimmers can still read the forum, so hasn't been isolated from Town talk, Phil's just stopped him posting on it for a while. |  |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 11:32 - Jan 20 with 2007 views | Stewart27 |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 09:28 - Jan 20 by _clive_baker_ |
For someone who hasn't been to a game in years I don't know why he's so steadfast in his opinion on how supporters should react to a heavy defeat. Not that it makes anyone any less of a supporter, I believe everyone is and there's many reasons why people can't or don't go to games, but most would be able to read the room.
I'm not going to get personal of someone who isn't here to defend themselves, but his posts were either a) designed to be provocative and troll people or b) completely reactionary and unbalanced, time and time again. It was only a few weeks ago McKenna had 'checked out', lo and behold we beat Wolves and he's on here waxing lyrical again until the next defeat. It wasn't infrequent either, or a 1 off, and had been getting even worse of late. I'm quite surprised he was allowed back after the Burns stuff to be honest.
People talk of mob rule but I don't really agree. We're all here largely with the anonymity of a username, there's no bias at play. Over a period of time if there's convergence among the majority of posters and people are routinely getting utterly wound up with 1 then it isn't a question of mob rule, its just really telling about how that 1 person is conducting themselves. |
Well said Clive.
I can admit to getting overly frustrated with him of late. But I’ve struggled to tolerate his treatment of KM in the aftermath of a defeat. The petulant spoilt child syndrome that seems to happen time and time again. And then having the audacity yesterday to say nobody has questioned KM this season. He literally did it during and after yesterday’s match. And questioned his integrity earlier this season. KM is a genius and the best thing to happen to us in 50 years. I find the things he says about him really offensive. It’s almost like he forgets what he posts in the heat of the moment and justifies it by saying it was in the heat of the moment so it’s ok. It’s not ok. And it’s not ok to constantly lie about what has been said when he plasters it on the internet for the world to read.
I think he’s eluded to previously that this forum helps his mental health. If he does suffer from mental health issues then it’s sad but I predict that probably 75% of this forum do. But he cannot use this place to help his mental health issues whilst subsequently make other people feel worse.
This break has come at the right time. | | | |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 12:08 - Jan 20 with 1875 views | southnorfolkblue |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 10:19 - Jan 20 by NeedhamChris |
I don't disagree, personally there should be some type of fair usage policy implemented when people go overboard on posts - but that's not the fault of Frimley or any other poster.
We were all emotional yesterday, and Frimley (stupidly) put out a deliberately controversial post and people couldn't ignore it.
Put differently, if noone reacts to Frimleys post do you think he still gets banned? I don't - and most of the people who abused him in that thread knew exactly what they were doing. |
I'll be honest. I don't get the fuss over him. I just ignore his threads or posts - it isn't difficult. There is no excuse to be rude or personal about anyone on here. Bottom line is very few of us know people on here or what may be going on in their lives. | |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 12:54 - Jan 20 with 1700 views | DJR |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 11:00 - Jan 20 by Whos_blue |
Yes. This.
Hadn't realised he'd gone.
He's always posted freely about his demons and has sought support from us in the past.
It would be good to know he's doing ok. |
Perhaps Phil could reach out to him, and persuade him to come back.
Indeed, given his struggles, I feel the TWTD community owes him their support. |  | | |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 12:57 - Jan 20 with 1670 views | GlasgowBlue |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 09:19 - Jan 20 by blueasfook |
Poor Frimmers. He's mostly inoffensive, even if you don't like what he posts. It's not like people are forced to read his posts. |
I'll be honest. When I heard somebody had been banned for constant trolling and winding up fans after a defeat I thought Phil had banned noggin. Far more offensive imo. |  |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 13:02 - Jan 20 with 1604 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 08:10 - Jan 20 by Dubtractor |
FWIW I agree that Frimmers was sometimes unfairly attacked, but.......
Yesterday's post was insane really, and follows a pattern where he seemed to need to post hot takes in the aftermath of bad results, and that hasn't changed in the whole time he has been on here. I'm not going to say he thrived on the attention, as I don't know his motivation at all, but you could guarantee a post from him that would be aimed at winding this place up after every poor result, absolutely guarantee it. |
What did he post? I seem to have missed it. |  |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 13:05 - Jan 20 with 1568 views | TheBlueGnu |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 07:19 - Jan 20 by NeedhamChris |
Translated as - some grown men on here are incapable of controlling their emotions and responses. Hope that's only the case on here.
When did we become completely incapable of nuance? Surely it's both - yes there should be less trolling but also yes there should be less abusive responses. |
I didn't realise that there were grown men on here - only pre-14 year olds and the very odd person like me who likes to post completely irrelevant stuff for my own amusement purposes! | |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 13:06 - Jan 20 with 1561 views | PhilTWTD |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 12:54 - Jan 20 by DJR |
Perhaps Phil could reach out to him, and persuade him to come back.
Indeed, given his struggles, I feel the TWTD community owes him their support. |
I emailed him earlier this morning but not heard back yet. |  | | |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 13:17 - Jan 20 with 1475 views | blueasfook |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 12:57 - Jan 20 by GlasgowBlue |
I'll be honest. When I heard somebody had been banned for constant trolling and winding up fans after a defeat I thought Phil had banned noggin. Far more offensive imo. |
Since Burnsgate,I think Frimmers has been a lot better. I think he just tends to look on the negative side of things, that's the way some people are. And certain posters seem to jump on him at any opportunity. It doesn't sit well me that he's been banned, but I dont wield the ban hammer!
Just last week I got told off for trolling. I mean me of all people!? |  |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 13:19 - Jan 20 with 1445 views | blueasfook |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 13:02 - Jan 20 by The_Flashing_Smile |
What did he post? I seem to have missed it. |
He said he thought Russell Brand was a great guy and he liked his comedy. | |
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| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 13:20 - Jan 20 with 1445 views | Zapers |
| FrimleyBlue has gone again then. on 12:57 - Jan 20 by GlasgowBlue |
I'll be honest. When I heard somebody had been banned for constant trolling and winding up fans after a defeat I thought Phil had banned noggin. Far more offensive imo. |
I did used to read some of his posts, and personally i wasn't wound up by them like some on here, But I guess I wasn't one of the posters who frequently wanted him cancelled.
I didn't see what he did last night, but really it's a strange decision to ban him, and not the bullying abusers which will no doubt stay impervious on TWTD.
I agree about Noggin btw | | | |
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