| Axel Rudakubana…. 12:48 - Jan 23 with 15780 views | Bloots |
….removed from the court during his sentencing hearing because he claimed to “feel ill”.
Get the scumbag murderer back in there to listen to the effects his disgusting crimes have had on people.
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 15:55 - Jan 23 with 2087 views | ColchesterBlue1985 |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 14:59 - Jan 23 by Zx1988 |
I'm prepared for the pile-on, but there are only victims here, including the perpetrator.
Obviously an incredibly unwell man through no fault of his own, who slipped through the cracks despite (it would appear) multiple red flags that could well have pointed towards this sort of thing happening. Hopefully the enquiry will get to the bottom of how this was all allowed to happen, despite AR's previous actions.
Mental health provision in this country is appalling. Case in point is the chap just down the road from me who, this time last year, called the police advising them he was having some sort of episode, and was told (I'm paraphrasing here) to call someone who cares. Instead he killed himself and his family.
AR should be locked away for a very long time, but in a facility where he can receive the treatment and care that he clearly so desperately needs, and well away from the pointless bloodlust of certain sections of society. |
What on earth are you talking about!!
The guy researched it methodically, planned and executed exactly what he set out to do!!
The ONLY victims here are those poor poor girls!!
I am actually borderline disgusted that you are trying to offer a "defense" to this animal!!! [Post edited 23 Jan 15:56]
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:00 - Jan 23 with 2054 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 15:55 - Jan 23 by ColchesterBlue1985 |
What on earth are you talking about!!
The guy researched it methodically, planned and executed exactly what he set out to do!!
The ONLY victims here are those poor poor girls!!
I am actually borderline disgusted that you are trying to offer a "defense" to this animal!!! [Post edited 23 Jan 15:56]
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He didnt offer a defence. | | | |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:01 - Jan 23 with 2042 views | MattinLondon |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 15:45 - Jan 23 by gtsb1966 |
Nope |
Like it or not, prison officers have a duty of care to all prisoners and cannot pick-and-choose or they try to protect. If they do, then they shouldn’t be in post.
If attacks on Rudakubana are common place where is the bar kept? It’ll just get lower and lower and excused until all prisoners are at risk. Prisons will simply be breeding more violence resulting in most prisoners being violent when released.
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:03 - Jan 23 with 2058 views | SitfcB |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 14:59 - Jan 23 by Zx1988 |
I'm prepared for the pile-on, but there are only victims here, including the perpetrator.
Obviously an incredibly unwell man through no fault of his own, who slipped through the cracks despite (it would appear) multiple red flags that could well have pointed towards this sort of thing happening. Hopefully the enquiry will get to the bottom of how this was all allowed to happen, despite AR's previous actions.
Mental health provision in this country is appalling. Case in point is the chap just down the road from me who, this time last year, called the police advising them he was having some sort of episode, and was told (I'm paraphrasing here) to call someone who cares. Instead he killed himself and his family.
AR should be locked away for a very long time, but in a facility where he can receive the treatment and care that he clearly so desperately needs, and well away from the pointless bloodlust of certain sections of society. |
Treatment and care?
Hahaha.
Piss off.
Using the mental health card is disrespectful to those that do actually suffer mental health issues. [Post edited 23 Jan 16:04]
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:03 - Jan 23 with 2019 views | MattinLondon |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 15:50 - Jan 23 by Stenvict |
Some bloke in jail for illegally watching Man Utd attacks a bloke that murdered young girls, and the former is the scumbag, because the latter may be mentally ill.
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You’re making up something to get more and more angry about. | | | |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:05 - Jan 23 with 2011 views | ColchesterBlue1985 |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:00 - Jan 23 by redrickstuhaart |
He didnt offer a defence. |
He labelled him a victim! That is defending him.
AR is not the victim here.
What is wrong with this world that somebody can murder in cold blood three little girls and be called a victim!! | | | |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:13 - Jan 23 with 1942 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:03 - Jan 23 by SitfcB |
Treatment and care?
Hahaha.
Piss off.
Using the mental health card is disrespectful to those that do actually suffer mental health issues. [Post edited 23 Jan 16:04]
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Well said.
Frankly this line from him is a pretty grim take to start his post:
‘but there are only victims here, including the perpetrator.’ |  |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:19 - Jan 23 with 1911 views | pointofblue |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:05 - Jan 23 by ColchesterBlue1985 |
He labelled him a victim! That is defending him.
AR is not the victim here.
What is wrong with this world that somebody can murder in cold blood three little girls and be called a victim!! |
If AR suffered from mental health issues then I would argue he is a victim of dreadful mental health provision on this country - something which could have prevented the deaths of those poor girls.
But I'm not sure if there are mental health concerns in his case? [Post edited 23 Jan 16:21]
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:23 - Jan 23 with 1879 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:19 - Jan 23 by pointofblue |
If AR suffered from mental health issues then I would argue he is a victim of dreadful mental health provision on this country - something which could have prevented the deaths of those poor girls.
But I'm not sure if there are mental health concerns in his case? [Post edited 23 Jan 16:21]
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There’s been no mention of MH other than by Zx in his post above | |
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:27 - Jan 23 with 1854 views | SitfcB |
Sentenced to a minimum of 52 years.
Not long enough! | |
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:30 - Jan 23 with 1829 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:27 - Jan 23 by SitfcB |
Sentenced to a minimum of 52 years.
Not long enough! |
Tbf to the judge, that’s as long as he could get really when not in the whole life tariff camp because of being under 18 at the time | |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:31 - Jan 23 with 1814 views | NeedhamChris |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:23 - Jan 23 by The_Romford_Blue |
There’s been no mention of MH other than by Zx in his post above |
As I've said I strongly disagree with the way Zx has presented AR as a victim - but it is also true that he has had involvement with mental health services (however that does not mean that is the reason this occurred)
"Local health workers determined he had an autism spectrum disorder and he was later enrolled in two other schools for children with special needs: The Acorns School and Presfield High School & Specialist College."
"He had involvement with local mental health services but "stopped engaging" in February 2023" | |
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:33 - Jan 23 with 1784 views | SitfcB |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:30 - Jan 23 by The_Romford_Blue |
Tbf to the judge, that’s as long as he could get really when not in the whole life tariff camp because of being under 18 at the time |
Maybe there should be a call for a law change for extreme cases like this whereby a life sentence can be passed down to someone U18? | |
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:35 - Jan 23 with 1772 views | strikalite |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:27 - Jan 23 by SitfcB |
Sentenced to a minimum of 52 years.
Not long enough! |
52 bullets to the head would have been better, how much will 52 years inside cost I wonder... |  | | |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:38 - Jan 23 with 1736 views | Churchman |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 14:59 - Jan 23 by Zx1988 |
I'm prepared for the pile-on, but there are only victims here, including the perpetrator.
Obviously an incredibly unwell man through no fault of his own, who slipped through the cracks despite (it would appear) multiple red flags that could well have pointed towards this sort of thing happening. Hopefully the enquiry will get to the bottom of how this was all allowed to happen, despite AR's previous actions.
Mental health provision in this country is appalling. Case in point is the chap just down the road from me who, this time last year, called the police advising them he was having some sort of episode, and was told (I'm paraphrasing here) to call someone who cares. Instead he killed himself and his family.
AR should be locked away for a very long time, but in a facility where he can receive the treatment and care that he clearly so desperately needs, and well away from the pointless bloodlust of certain sections of society. |
A debate about mental health provision in this country doesn’t belong here now. Not today. It interests me that in four paragraphs you refer to the actual victims once and in the same sentence align them with that bit of dirt.
AR was responsible for his actions. It knew exactly what it was doing and why. AR chose to murder and ruin lives. Did he enjoy it? Not read enough on it to know, but there are those out there that do enjoy extreme violence and worse and that thing is at the far end of the spectrum.
When it comes down to it, I couldn’t give a hoot about AR - his rights, mental state, well-being or anything else. They can to paraphrase Shawshanks Redemption ‘cast him down with the s0domites’ for all I care.
And while we are at it, while I don’t agree with the principle of prisoners dispensing justice, if one of them cuts his throat from ear to ear the world will be a better place. That'd be the limit of ‘treatment and care’ if it was my decision.
This crime(s) is about as bad as it gets. Enough about that vermin. It’s those poor people I’m thinking of. Some of the kindness and bravery shown in the face of evil that’s been read out is astonishing. That is what should be recognised not concerns for ‘a facility where he can receive the treatment and care he so desperately needs’. [Post edited 23 Jan 16:47]
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:41 - Jan 23 with 1710 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 14:59 - Jan 23 by Zx1988 |
I'm prepared for the pile-on, but there are only victims here, including the perpetrator.
Obviously an incredibly unwell man through no fault of his own, who slipped through the cracks despite (it would appear) multiple red flags that could well have pointed towards this sort of thing happening. Hopefully the enquiry will get to the bottom of how this was all allowed to happen, despite AR's previous actions.
Mental health provision in this country is appalling. Case in point is the chap just down the road from me who, this time last year, called the police advising them he was having some sort of episode, and was told (I'm paraphrasing here) to call someone who cares. Instead he killed himself and his family.
AR should be locked away for a very long time, but in a facility where he can receive the treatment and care that he clearly so desperately needs, and well away from the pointless bloodlust of certain sections of society. |
Nah fck him.
Loads of people have mental health issues but they don’t go around killing kids. |  |
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:42 - Jan 23 with 1688 views | NeedhamChris |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:33 - Jan 23 by SitfcB |
Maybe there should be a call for a law change for extreme cases like this whereby a life sentence can be passed down to someone U18? |
Whilst I understand the sentiment and the reasoning, I think it's a bad idea to make changes to the law based on individual emotive cases.
He'll be 70 - and that's if he's then deemed safe (which there's no guarantee he will be). I think the justice system has done it's job reasonably well today. | |
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:42 - Jan 23 with 1680 views | itfcjoe |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:33 - Jan 23 by SitfcB |
Maybe there should be a call for a law change for extreme cases like this whereby a life sentence can be passed down to someone U18? |
They changed it from 21 to 18 after Manchester bombings I think |  |
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:44 - Jan 23 with 1650 views | Jimmy86 |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 13:01 - Jan 23 by blueasfook |
I saw a photo of him yesterday. He certainly looks deranged. Awful crime. I hope he gets a whole life sentence. |
That was exactly the word I'd use to describe him.. he looks absolutely deranged and for me was one of the most heinous crimes I've ever known, stabbing to death 3 poor, defenseless little girls for no reason whatsoever.. may those poor souls rest in peace | | | |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:52 - Jan 23 with 1606 views | BloomBlue |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 14:59 - Jan 23 by Zx1988 |
I'm prepared for the pile-on, but there are only victims here, including the perpetrator.
Obviously an incredibly unwell man through no fault of his own, who slipped through the cracks despite (it would appear) multiple red flags that could well have pointed towards this sort of thing happening. Hopefully the enquiry will get to the bottom of how this was all allowed to happen, despite AR's previous actions.
Mental health provision in this country is appalling. Case in point is the chap just down the road from me who, this time last year, called the police advising them he was having some sort of episode, and was told (I'm paraphrasing here) to call someone who cares. Instead he killed himself and his family.
AR should be locked away for a very long time, but in a facility where he can receive the treatment and care that he clearly so desperately needs, and well away from the pointless bloodlust of certain sections of society. |
Per your point; 'Instead he killed himself and his family' to be honest I wish Rudakuban had killed himself (ok not his family) before he could kill those girls. In fact I wish all those who have claimed mental health as the cause of killing someone, had killed themselves before they could kill. I really don't care about the mental health debate
Three little girls who had every right to live their lives. Fulfilling their own ambitions, making their own mistakes, they should have had that chance. But some c__t removed that from them. Whatever happens to him he's still alive with an option to change, he removed that option from them.
They did nothing towards him, but he planned that attack |  | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:57 - Jan 23 with 1562 views | lowhouseblue |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 16:19 - Jan 23 by pointofblue |
If AR suffered from mental health issues then I would argue he is a victim of dreadful mental health provision on this country - something which could have prevented the deaths of those poor girls.
But I'm not sure if there are mental health concerns in his case? [Post edited 23 Jan 16:21]
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i don't think psychiatric evidence has been presented. but it's difficult because i can't conceive of such awful crimes being committed by anyone who isn't severely ill. but where does that leave the idea of responsibility? it can't just be explained by vague mental health issues of the sort that should have been picked by cams - and which affect many many people - it has to be something very specific and truly exceptional. no evidence like that has been reported. [Post edited 23 Jan 16:57]
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:59 - Jan 23 with 1549 views | waveneyblue |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 14:59 - Jan 23 by Zx1988 |
I'm prepared for the pile-on, but there are only victims here, including the perpetrator.
Obviously an incredibly unwell man through no fault of his own, who slipped through the cracks despite (it would appear) multiple red flags that could well have pointed towards this sort of thing happening. Hopefully the enquiry will get to the bottom of how this was all allowed to happen, despite AR's previous actions.
Mental health provision in this country is appalling. Case in point is the chap just down the road from me who, this time last year, called the police advising them he was having some sort of episode, and was told (I'm paraphrasing here) to call someone who cares. Instead he killed himself and his family.
AR should be locked away for a very long time, but in a facility where he can receive the treatment and care that he clearly so desperately needs, and well away from the pointless bloodlust of certain sections of society. |
I guess when a bunch of "strangers" are brought together with maybe only one thing in common (their support of Ipswich) there's always going to be wildly differing opinions, ways of looking at things and I perhaps this is what keeps us all coming back on such a regular basis.
However, occasionally there's an opinion shared that stops you in your tracks, makes you read it several times and maybe even come back to it just so you can at least justify why they've typed it.
This is one of those.
I appreciate and have personally witnessed the horrific effects of mental health, the way it can make people act against their usual selves etc etc. But this scumbag clearly knew what he was doing, it was planned, almost scripted and for you to say he's a victim, "through no fault of his own" and hoping that he gets the "treatment and CARE" he desperately needs is possibly the worst thing I've ever read on here.
Pile-on ? Nah, this doesn't deserve a pile on, it needs deleting |  | | |
| Terrible, terrible take. (n/t) on 17:00 - Jan 23 with 1542 views | Bloots |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 14:59 - Jan 23 by Zx1988 |
I'm prepared for the pile-on, but there are only victims here, including the perpetrator.
Obviously an incredibly unwell man through no fault of his own, who slipped through the cracks despite (it would appear) multiple red flags that could well have pointed towards this sort of thing happening. Hopefully the enquiry will get to the bottom of how this was all allowed to happen, despite AR's previous actions.
Mental health provision in this country is appalling. Case in point is the chap just down the road from me who, this time last year, called the police advising them he was having some sort of episode, and was told (I'm paraphrasing here) to call someone who cares. Instead he killed himself and his family.
AR should be locked away for a very long time, but in a facility where he can receive the treatment and care that he clearly so desperately needs, and well away from the pointless bloodlust of certain sections of society. |
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| Axel Rudakubana…. on 17:03 - Jan 23 with 1507 views | Churchman |
| Axel Rudakubana…. on 16:30 - Jan 23 by The_Romford_Blue |
Tbf to the judge, that’s as long as he could get really when not in the whole life tariff camp because of being under 18 at the time |
True. Perhaps change the law and apply it retrospectively. Aside from it being right that the creature should be buried in the deepest hole in the ground and only come out in a bag, in theory it will be out at 70 and perfectly capable of attacking children again. Even a 1% possibility is too much. [Post edited 23 Jan 17:04]
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| Terrible, terrible take. (n/t) on 17:04 - Jan 23 with 1494 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Terrible, terrible take. (n/t) on 17:00 - Jan 23 by Bloots |
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You could maybe make the case that to start his post how he has (that first line in particular), is quite possibly trolling. | |
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